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dKrum
Posted 7/22/2019 4:46 PM (#942876)
Subject: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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I'm heading up to Vermilion this weekend. Does anyone have a fishing report? What tactics seem to be working?
TimmyP19
Posted 7/23/2019 11:20 AM (#942927 - in reply to #942876)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




Posts: 13


Fishing has been pretty normal so far this summer. Shallow and bucktails. Plan on fishing 12-16 hours a day to get your opportunity. Fish as many spots as you can. There is no secret on V, just takes lots of hours and hard work.
bucknuts
Posted 7/23/2019 12:22 PM (#942929 - in reply to #942876)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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Vermilion is getting tougher and tougher, every year! Be thankful if you get bit once, during the weekend!
Kirby Budrow
Posted 7/23/2019 12:26 PM (#942930 - in reply to #942929)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?





Posts: 1468


Location: MN
What they said! A really good day is 4 sightings and good bite. A normal day is seeing 2 fish and catching none. There have been some larger fish caught recently, but they were in open water at night. Maybe try that if you aren't seeing much.

Edited by Kirby Budrow 7/23/2019 12:33 PM
muskyhunter07
Posted 7/23/2019 1:16 PM (#942932 - in reply to #942930)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




A lake with a population of less than 1000 fish, hard to get a bite. Have to put your time in that's for sure. Definitely have to schedule around peak times.
CincySkeez
Posted 7/23/2019 3:07 PM (#942934 - in reply to #942932)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




Posts: 174


Location: Duluth
Saw a picture of a 57x26.5 caught there last weekend.

Slow fishing is the norm. night is good
muskycult
Posted 7/23/2019 7:35 PM (#942948 - in reply to #942932)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




Posts: 46


Location: hanover park illinois
muskyhunter07 - 7/23/2019 1:16 PM

A lake with a population of less than 1000 fish, hard to get a bite. Have to put your time in that's for sure. Definitely have to schedule around peak times.


Is it really less then 1000???? That's crazy low.
muskyhunter07
Posted 7/23/2019 8:33 PM (#942953 - in reply to #942948)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




Yes I fished with Luke Ronnestrand for 3 days last month and we had several conversation's about the stocking of Lake Vermilion and the numbers of fish. He has documented years of data on the lakes numbers of stocked fish vs age of fish and life span. Ask Matt Seifert or Ronnestrand they have data to prove this. There are some big fish still to catch, and hopefully the new stocking plan will help the lake in the near future.
bucknuts
Posted 7/23/2019 10:10 PM (#942960 - in reply to #942876)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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Vermilion is getting tougher and tougher, every year! Be thankful if you get bit once, during the weekend!
Kirby Budrow
Posted 7/24/2019 7:28 AM (#942966 - in reply to #942948)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?





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Location: MN
muskycult - 7/23/2019 7:35 PM

muskyhunter07 - 7/23/2019 1:16 PM

A lake with a population of less than 1000 fish, hard to get a bite. Have to put your time in that's for sure. Definitely have to schedule around peak times.


Is it really less then 1000???? That's crazy low.


And with a population like that, how many fish are on the low density west end? A couple hundred maybe? Low odds.
TimmyP19
Posted 7/24/2019 7:38 AM (#942968 - in reply to #942876)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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This spring was year 1 of 2 for the population estimate via spring nettings. They pit tagged the fish they netted this spring. They will net again spring of 2020 and see how many new fish, and re-captures they get. They will then provide an estimate of the total population. Based on the number of fish caught this spring in the nets, I would guess the population will come out at around 900-1,200 muskies next year when they release all the data.

If it comes out there are a 1,000 or so Muskies for the population estimate and Lake Vermilion is 40,000 acres in size........well, you can do the math.



Edited by TimmyP19 7/24/2019 7:56 AM
muskyhunter07
Posted 7/24/2019 1:55 PM (#943000 - in reply to #942876)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




TimmyP19 Exactly on point
happy hooker
Posted 7/24/2019 2:36 PM (#943002 - in reply to #942968)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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Just spent 4 days 3 of them fishing,,in 3 days we had 5 total follows, would have had a 47 that had his nose buried in the soft taill phantom he was coming has hard has the Russian shkval 220mph torpedo but the boat partner had Bob Marley cranked so loud on the radio that he flashed off at the boat. The other boat with us got two fish 43,40 trolling but put alot of miles in.
5 follows in 3 days on water we know well???? Used to be days when we had 5 follows just going around one island.
On the positive one of our guys brought spinning stuff and was getting nice smallmouth right off the cabin dock.
The only reason I go to vermilion now is because our buddy has a beautiful cabin he invites us to,,the emphasis now is on visiting margaritaville and sleeping late because "why not" fishing there dossent spur a samurai spirit. Next invite up for the first time in 24 years I may bring a spinning rod on a musky trip.

Edited by happy hooker 7/24/2019 2:55 PM
muskyhunter07
Posted 7/24/2019 3:41 PM (#943009 - in reply to #942876)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




Good idea Smallmouth bass fishing is great on the Big V. Hopefully the Muskie population can come back in a few years now that they are stocking more then before.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 7/24/2019 4:08 PM (#943016 - in reply to #943009)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?





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Location: MN
muskyhunter07 - 7/24/2019 3:41 PM

Good idea Smallmouth bass fishing is great on the Big V. Hopefully the Muskie population can come back in a few years now that they are stocking more then before.


Problem is that it takes more than a few years to grow a decent sized muskie. Gonna be a while before we see a decent population of quality fish again...if they actually do something about it. I have my doubts.
dKrum
Posted 7/24/2019 4:46 PM (#943018 - in reply to #942876)
Subject: RE: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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Thanks for the replies! Cincy, I saw a picture of that 57 too - what a monster!
muskyhunter07
Posted 7/24/2019 4:50 PM (#943019 - in reply to #943016)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




I agree Kirby it will be awhile before it ever comes back to what it once was. I still go every year for a week+ though it's a beautiful water and you still have that chance to get the "one".
happy hooker
Posted 7/25/2019 3:50 AM (#943046 - in reply to #943019)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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Just my opinion but let this serve has an example for musky guys looking to get property in the future here in Minnesota.
People on Leech lake now have the last laugh,, while everybody was ignoring Leech and scrambling to get lots on V,Mile Lacs and other stocked waters little did they realize that these stocked lakes are subject to dnr policy change and politics.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 7/25/2019 6:29 AM (#943048 - in reply to #943046)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?





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Location: MN
happy hooker - 7/25/2019 3:50 AM

Just my opinion but let this serve has an example for musky guys looking to get property in the future here in Minnesota.
People on Leech lake now have the last laugh,, while everybody was ignoring Leech and scrambling to get lots on V,Mile Lacs and other stocked waters little did they realize that these stocked lakes are subject to dnr policy change and politics.


Well that’s true. I wouldn’t call it policy change though. It’s just the opinions of certain fisheries managers. Other dnr fisheries managers like to see their lakes thrive...like out west. But not here in NE MN.

I know a lot of people including myself who moved to the lake or close by because of the fishing. Now I’m stuck close to 2 hours away from other big fish water.

Edited by Kirby Budrow 7/25/2019 6:58 AM
CincySkeez
Posted 7/25/2019 9:07 AM (#943063 - in reply to #943048)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




Posts: 174


Location: Duluth


I know a lot of people including myself who moved to the lake or close by because of the fishing. Now I’m stuck close to 2 hours away from other big fish water. :(

I feel ya on this, but if you're on the V there's definitely big fish water closer than two hours. Guess you just have to want to fish it, the fish didn't evaporate, and they aren't in the lake...hmmmm
Cfollow
Posted 7/25/2019 9:27 AM (#943066 - in reply to #943063)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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CincySkeez - 7/25/2019 9:07 AM



I feel ya on this, but if you're on the V there's definitely big fish water closer than two hours. Guess you just have to want to fish it, the fish didn't evaporate, and they aren't in the lake...hmmmm


Yeah, I mean why don't you want to fish an even lower density population in Crane Lake.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 7/25/2019 10:16 AM (#943070 - in reply to #943066)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?





Posts: 1468


Location: MN
Cfollow - 7/25/2019 9:27 AM

CincySkeez - 7/25/2019 9:07 AM



I feel ya on this, but if you're on the V there's definitely big fish water closer than two hours. Guess you just have to want to fish it, the fish didn't evaporate, and they aren't in the lake...hmmmm


Yeah, I mean why don't you want to fish an even lower density population in Crane Lake.


Precisely
CincySkeez
Posted 7/25/2019 10:41 AM (#943074 - in reply to #943070)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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Location: Duluth
LOL, never said action and big fish (:

TBH, I wouldn't likely be the happiest camper either if I bought a place during the New Reservoir syndrome peak.

Sadly don't think the lake will ever be back to the way it was. Just like the St. Louis will never fish like it did when stocking began. Just like Island Lake. Dang.
muskyhunter07
Posted 7/25/2019 10:44 AM (#943075 - in reply to #943074)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




Crane has some giants as well as little vermilion (;
Gottagofast
Posted 7/25/2019 2:32 PM (#943085 - in reply to #942876)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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I am not sure where some of you are getting your numbers or if your just going for the doom and gloom to keep people away.
The DNR netted over 700 unique fish this spring with less than 55 nets and a crappy spring that had water temps in the 50s on opener.
If you believe they caught over 70% of the adult population you are delusional.
Nershi
Posted 7/25/2019 6:26 PM (#943095 - in reply to #943085)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




Location: MN
Gottagofast - 7/25/2019 2:32 PM

I am not sure where some of you are getting your numbers or if your just going for the doom and gloom to keep people away.
The DNR netted over 700 unique fish this spring with less than 55 nets and a crappy spring that had water temps in the 50s on opener.
If you believe they caught over 70% of the adult population you are delusional.


I heard it was a positive showing in the spring assessment. The guides are trying create a doom and gloom narrative to get more fish put in the lake. A lot of times facts get ignored when trying to tilt a certain angle. The fishing has gotten a lot tougher so I understand where they are coming from. I laughed when I read the estimate of 1000 muskies in the lake.
TimmyP19
Posted 7/26/2019 8:05 AM (#943128 - in reply to #942876)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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Yes, There was 700 unique fish captured this spring. All pit tagged. The crew that did the netting are very experienced in what they do. Plus, they utilized local knowledge to strategically place nets in the highest percentage of areas. That crew also came out and they are the ones that said they feel comfortable that they can catch 60-70% of the population. Believe me, I sure have my doubts on that statement as that seems quite high! We wont really know anything until after they do it again next spring.

BUT, there are few folks up there who are on the water EVERYDAY and they have pit tag readers. There has been a very HIGH percentage of pit tags in the number of fish being caught so far this year. For example, there was a gentleman whos first 7 Muskies caught this year and every single one had a tag in it.

That scares me.

But, until next spring, everything is all speculation.

Edited by TimmyP19 7/26/2019 8:08 AM
muskyhunter07
Posted 7/26/2019 9:18 AM (#943132 - in reply to #943128)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




Yes, There was 700 unique fish captured this spring. All pit tagged. The crew that did the netting are very experienced in what they do. Plus, they utilized local knowledge to strategically place nets in the highest percentage of areas. That crew also came out and they are the ones that said they feel comfortable that they can catch 60-70% of the population. Believe me, I sure have my doubts on that statement as that seems quite high! We wont really know anything until after they do it again next spring.

BUT, there are few folks up there who are on the water EVERYDAY and they have pit tag readers. There has been a very HIGH percentage of pit tags in the number of fish being caught so far this year. For example, there was a gentleman whos first 7 Muskies caught this year and every single one had a tag in it.

That scares me.

But, until next spring, everything is all speculation.
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TimmyP19- That's exactly what I was told as well, By several Full-time guides on Vermilion. Hopefully with 3,000 fish stocked annually now it will help. I'm glad they changed the stocking plan added a few more fish, again yes it will take many years to develop and may never reach what it once was. The DNR is hopeful that there is natural reproduction happening so that is also a good thing hopefully we see that happening with the PIT tag program.
Gottagofast
Posted 7/26/2019 11:26 AM (#943140 - in reply to #942876)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?




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Well the large lakes biologists goal was to tag 400 fish this spring. I highly doubt the crew s told anyone they were confident they could catch even close to 70% of the adult population in the two years they plan to sample.
mikie
Posted 7/26/2019 6:18 PM (#943173 - in reply to #942876)
Subject: Re: Vermilion Fishing Reports?





Location: Athens, Ohio
" the boat partner had Bob Marley cranked so loud on the radio that he flashed off at the boat"
Now, I have heard everything: blaming a lost fish on Bob Marley. BA-hahaha. m
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