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| What are your guys thoughts on the new vs the old tekotas? |
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| I like both. Have caught a bunch of fish on the new ones. The clickers are much louder than the old ones.
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| the newer model is better for 2 things loudest cliker, finally an handle on the left for the logical right handed guy like me lol. but the giagantic cons is that the gear ratio is way too quick ,for big pulling lure. will be paint in the ass to bring and will be more prompt to broken. look like a reel that will not last forever like the previous model.ive got some that are older than 10 years and still working like a new one . time will tell if they will last. personally that new reel make me more sad than happy. friend that let me try his new reel is jealous of my old one. i think shimano got to build parts for 5 years but i could be wrong,so if you want one get the older model if you can |
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| If you run big baits and in-line boards I'd stay away from the new Tekota. I've been running Penn's this year and they absolutely rock. |
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| Fanthom II LC. They blow everything else out of the water and I was a diehard Tekota fan for many years. |
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Location: 31 | Pat Hoolihan - 7/7/2019 8:55 PM Fanthom II LC. They blow everything else out of the water and I was a diehard Tekota fan for many years. Maybe better than the 600... but there's simply no way it's possible they could blow a Tekota 700 out of the water.
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| Pat Hoolihan - 7/7/2019 8:55 PM
Fanthom II LC. They blow everything else out of the water and I was a diehard Tekota fan for many years. really ? how ? |
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| Jerry Newman - 7/9/2019 9:26 AM
Pat Hoolihan - 7/7/2019 8:55 PM Fanthom II LC. They blow everything else out of the water and I was a diehard Tekota fan for many years. Maybe better than the 600... but there's simply no way it's possible they could blow a Tekota 700 out of the water.
Have you tried one? |
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| supertrollr - 7/9/2019 1:33 PM
Pat Hoolihan - 7/7/2019 8:55 PM
Fanthom II LC. They blow everything else out of the water and I was a diehard Tekota fan for many years. really ? how ?
Adjustable high/low drag, more drag, smoother drag, smaller/lighter when comparing equal line capacity ratings, and overall a nicer reel imo. Like I said, I still love my original Tekota's, but if you troll a lot, do yourself a favor and try the Penn. I don't think you'll be disappointed. |
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Location: 31 | Pat Hoolihan - 7/9/2019 1:43 PM Jerry Newman - 7/9/2019 9:26 AM Pat Hoolihan - 7/7/2019 8:55 PM Fanthom II LC. They blow everything else out of the water and I was a diehard Tekota fan for many years. Maybe better than the 600... but there's simply no way it's possible they could blow a Tekota 700 out of the water. Have you tried one?
I agree that the Penn would be a formidable muskie reel. However, I think you missed the point I was trying to make. I'm not saying the 700 is the better of the 2 reels, rather the Penn WILL NOT "blow the 700 out of the water"
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| im curious ,why would you need 30 lbs of drag for trolling ? my tek 600 got 18 and im really far to need more drag. from a visual pov it look like a nice reel but imo shimano quality is second to none when you pay 150 and more , im not so sure about penn. i have seen squall reel video that look like a real nightmare. |
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| supertrollr - 7/9/2019 3:50 PM
im curious ,why would you need 30 lbs of drag for trolling ? my tek 600 got 18 and im really far to need more drag. from a visual pov it look like a nice reel but imo shimano quality is second to none when you pay 150 and more , im not so sure about penn. i have seen squall reel video that look like a real nightmare.
Because when your trolling Liplocks at 6mph behind boards 18lbs of drag doesn't cut it. Anyways, back to the original question. Stick with the old Tekotas unless you're pulling small stuff. |
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| really bad example .it don't pull hard at all vs plow or frankies. btw i handle both these lures whit my 600 like butter. but i never trolled big lure like that as fast as you do |
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| Lol, good talk. |
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| Supertroller, what video of the Squall are u speaking of? And was it fresh or saltwater? I have purchased a Squall recently for my trolling, have not used it as of yet. And there is no way u can compare a Squall with a Fathom II. Just ask the big cat guys. Kdawg |
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| there is one. when a reel broke that way,i don't want to imagine how it work inside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o-Fo4IRp8E&t=661s |
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| Good thing we're not even talking about the same reel. Like comparing a Tranx to a Corvalus. |
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| was sure squall was in the same price range than the tek. my fault |
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Location: 31 | Pat Hoolihan - 7/10/2019 3:17 PM Good thing we're not even talking about the same reel. Like comparing a Tranx to a Corvalus.
Or comparing a Shimano Tekota 600 to the 700... |
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Location: 31 | supertrollr - 7/9/2019 3:50 PM im curious ,why would you need 30 lbs of drag for trolling ? my tek 600 got 18 and im really far to need more drag. from a visual pov it look like a nice reel but imo shimano quality is second to none when you pay 150 and more , im not so sure about penn. i have seen squall reel video that look like a real nightmare.
I personally think the most telling part of this discussion is that not too long ago the Shimano Tekota 600 was considered by most to be one of the top-of-the-line trolling reels for muskie, but now here we have two accomplished trollers who have felt the need to step up in class from it.
Line capacity, weak clicker, and wanting more power with the larger boards were some of the reasons I switched. However, the narrow drag range that develops so quickly with the 600 from almost having to lock down the drag to retrieve in-line boards was probably the biggest issue… 18 pounds of drag pressure was simply not enough. We generally scrub the edges and at times it's a continual process of going from one rod to the next to check for weed fouls. When you have to almost lock down the drag to bring in the lure (smash the drag washers almost flat), then reset the drag hundreds of times every trip, it's a wonder the drags worked at all after a few months. When I stepped up in class to the Shimano 700 an unexpected thing happened, we only had to tighten the drag to retrieve big boards in rough water conditions, and even then all that was required was just a slight increase in drag pressure to get the job done. For folks reading this who are HD trollers, you know how much of a PIA resetting the drags every time can be… and obviously forgetting to reset the drag = lost fish. I didn't really consider drag size to be that important but since we made the switch we can now virtually set the drags once in the morning and then focus on other things. With that said; when you look at the much larger size of the drag washers of the Shimano Tekota 700 versus the 600, it only makes perfect sense why this occurs. I’d guess the same thing holds true for the Phantom? Anyway, I don't want people to think that I'm bashing the old 600s, and I can't really comment on the new ones because I'm sure they are really good reels too. However, Shimano manufactures the 300/500/600 series reels with the same size gears and drag washers, think about that when you pick up a skimpy 300 the next time you're at your favorite sporting goods store… in my opinion the drag/gear system is simply on the light side for long term HD muskie trolling. |
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| Very good points Jerry, and I've been talking about a Tekota 700. I don't know why you keep going back to a 600 since I never once said used 600's. But anyways, i still think the Fathom ZII's are better than a Tekota 700 but if you can still find a 700 they are very solid reels. |
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| of course your 700 is stronger,but the point is simple do we need that extra power that come whit almost twice the weight ? personally for me the answer is no , like i said , i can bring big deep diver without any line out so if i can do that it means that i can bring my tx 44 without trouble at all.i never use more than 200 f of line out so maybe that'S the reason why im ok whit my 600. i have no idea where why you said that the drag is not strong enough, did you see lines coming out of the reel? if yes what is the reason ? most guys are using the 600 for trolling so i think it'S legitimate to be skeptical about that not powerful enough drag. cheers |
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| Weight of a trolling reel? Why? The reel sits in a rod holder. I'm only concerned with the weight of my casting reels. Kdawg |
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| ive got to removed it out of the rod holder lots of times. due to the number of fish i caught,not my fault reel don't stay long in the salty lol it is just more pleasant tu use a reel of a normal size |
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Location: 31 | Supertrollr, I'm thinking there's a bit of a language barrier here because no one said the line slips while trolling normally. If the old 600 series is the perfect reel for your style of fishing, well no need to fix something that's not broken. Kdag is right because the weight of the reel is a nonissue... even if you catch a lot of fish - that's just being silly. Pat, frankly I've not heard of anyone else even thinking about the 700 series for muskie before your last post, and since you did not originally specify which model Tekota it was... was a easy assumption on my part. I'm actually shocked you felt the need to upgrade from the 700. For those who prefer monofilament, I consider the extra line capacity of the old Tekota 700 to be a huge asset when compared to the 600/standard sized trolling reels. I have about 1/2 of the spool with 80lb braid and then topped off with about 500' of mono. It was a hassle having to re-spool a couple 600s every other trip, obviously not a problem with braid. Couple other points; after routinely cutting off about 30-40' after every few days the standard spools would loose a lot of their line pick up power on the boards, we simply do not have that issue with the 700s. The extra capacity with the backing really comes into play when we hit a snag with 6-9 lines out and a shorter spool of mono. We have almost run out of line many times on snags with shorter spools of mono on the 600s.
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