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| Awesome to have some 10 footers coming out, with some nice long rear handles looks to be 20 inch handles :D
From the catalog.
Slingshot MH fast 3/4-3 oz
Blade Master H fast 3-8 oz
Stretch Dawg XH fast 6- 12 oz
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https://issuu.com/st.croixrod/docs/scr_cat2018_issuu
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Location: Hayward WI | Anyone got an idea of what the "long rod program applies" means for the 9'+ rods? |
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| Guess its something with shipping it was a pain in The rear, to get my hands on a Big nasty here in Europe due to it Being over 8’5” |
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Location: mercer wi | Long rod deal, from how it was explained to me, is that those rods maybe in store purchase only. The shipping was $ 190 for 10' rods. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | how much actual rod are the new 10 footers? ie, I took a TI 9'6" and compared the length from the reel handle forward to a 9' foot big nasty, it was like 1" longer ..so you are getting 1" more rod but it's 9'6".. ? new rods in these 9 6 and 10 foot lengths are a bit overkill imo... the perfect rod length to me is a 9 footer. I've tried 9'6"s and 10's. long handles for me are cumbersome when switching from right to left after casting especially in colder weather with thicker clothes on... just some things to think about for those looking to buy one.. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | BNelson - 12/15/2017 9:04 AM
how much actual rod are the new 10 footers? ie, I took a TI 9'6" and compared the length from the reel handle forward to a 9' foot big nasty, it was like 1" longer ..so you are getting 1" more rod but it's 9'6".. ? new rods in these 9 6 and 10 foot lengths are a bit overkill imo... the perfect rod length to me is a 9 footer. I've tried 9'6"s and 10's. long handles for me are cumbersome when switching from right to left after casting especially in colder weather with thicker clothes on... just some things to think about for those looking to buy one..
I agree. I do like my 9'6" but for most applications, 9' is better. I've never tried a 10 footer, but I don't think I want to. |
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| @ Zinox
Where did you get your big nasty from? Would love to get the blank only. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Hiya,
I am also one who things getting up over 9 feet is getting to be overkill. And...like BNelson said, if you compare the fighting portion of the rod (tip of rod to reel seat) there really isn't much difference.
Granted, a longer handle is nice for power casting and creating a stronger load-up of the rod, too long becomes hard to deal with...for me, I too switch hands in the cast, but it also can become more cumbersome in the figure 8 with the butt end hitting your clothing. For me personally, if the rod handle were as long as where I palm the rod to the end of my elbow, that is the ideal length.
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Location: MN | It's just a lot of rod. I don't care for the palming seat so that's enough for me to pass. Handle length over 16 I have issues with, that said I don't care for the short 14inch handles either. I'd wish they would offer the standard reelseat with 16 inch handles and just have the lengths bump out a few inches. I'm probably the odd man out but I have been put in a spot where I need two rods and I'd like st Croix but will need to find an alternative. |
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Location: Hayward WI | BNelson - 12/15/2017 9:04 AM
how much actual rod are the new 10 footers? ie, I took a TI 9'6" and compared the length from the reel handle forward to a 9' foot big nasty, it was like 1" longer ..so you are getting 1" more rod but it's 9'6".. ? new rods in these 9 6 and 10 foot lengths are a bit overkill imo... the perfect rod length to me is a 9 footer. I've tried 9'6"s and 10's. long handles for me are cumbersome when switching from right to left after casting especially in colder weather with thicker clothes on... just some things to think about for those looking to buy one..
Looks like the total handle length is 30" on the new 10' rods, rear handle 20", actual rod 7'6". |
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| Go custom... I have a few 9' LT rods I've built where the handle length fits the way I like it which isn't exactly to factory specs. I also have a couple 10'6" TI rods I built that don't have the super long rear grip for reasons mentioned above. Those long blanks allow for some awesome figure 8's and control over fish that are hooked. I for one, am very much looking forward to building on the new 10' blanks! |
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Location: mercer wi | Love my 9' ers. The 20" rear on new 10' is way too long. Was hoping for a 9' xh in the legand series but no luck. |
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| NathanH - 12/15/2017 11:18 AM
It's just a lot of rod. I don't care for the palming seat so that's enough for me to pass. Handle length over 16 I have issues with, that said I don't care for the short 14inch handles either. I'd wish they would offer the standard reelseat with 16 inch handles and just have the lengths bump out a few inches. I'm probably the odd man out but I have been put in a spot where I need two rods and I'd like st Croix but will need to find an alternative.
you are not alone nathan i agree with you , been looking for the old grip big nasty for a while with no luck here in canada . but if i can find one i 'd like to try the new palming grip to see if i could tolerate it ? its from the elite series on the 2018 legends rods and looks smaller. |
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| LugiAustria - 12/15/2017 9:51 AM
@ Zinox
Where did you get your big nasty from? Would love to get the blank only.
I Sent you a PM 
I would love to try the 10 foot Stretch Dawg vs my Big Dawg split grip, it is 14" longer rod section to play around with, should be awesome for casting open water and break lines. However i would have been more exited if they made a 9-9.5 foot with a higher lure rating as i find the Big Dawg a bit to soft for pounders.
But for general use, i agree that a rod in the 8.5-9 foot is the sweet spot.
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Location: Contrarian Island | I agree, the old st croix reel seats are way nicer, I hate the new ones, luckily all my Croixs are the old ones... I personally also think 16" handle is perfect.. 18 is way too long...I add rod balancers to most my rods... you could get a big nasty custom built to your specs by Keith at Pro Edge as well and put whatever reel seat you like on it...
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | I disagree about the old reel seats. I won't buy another rod without one. My ring finger thanks me for switching. My handles are between 17 and 18.5 depending on what I use the rod for. 20" would be too much for me though. |
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| you could get a big nasty custom built to your specs by Keith at Pro Edge as well and put whatever reel seat you like on it...
i know brad a custom is almost my only option but from the us a 9 feet rod is to much $$ to get to canada with shipping and the currency these days. |
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| looks like the fighting section is about 9" longer with the 10 footers. I find the rods very interesting, but I won't be able to fit it the cab of my truck. I can fit 9 footers in my cab, so I'll probably stick with them until I get too old to do good figure 8's (a long time from now) |
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| I have the same issues with transporting long rods. One of my primary sticks is a custom I built using a two piece surf blank. I can take this thing anywhere and not have to settle for less quality. All the action is on the top half of the blank. New two piece blanks don't spin or turn at all when using them all day.
I prefer two piece over telescoping handles because it allows for the stick to be half as long when transporting. Simple math:) Telescoping reduces the overall length but when they are 9-6 that still isn't enough for them to fit into most places.
Just my thoughts.
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| I used the Tackle Industries 10.5 foot for bucktails last year. Incredible, especially the for the figure 8. I am 59 years old and it makes deep wide figure 8s sooo easy. |
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| An 8' 11" Mega Swimbait Legend Tournament bass that is rated for 3-8 oz. and weighs 5.6 oz. Hmmmmm????
I guess the lifetime warranty is gone.  |
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| Cfollow - 12/18/2017 8:51 PM
An 8' 11" Mega Swimbait Legend Tournament bass that is rated for 3-8 oz. and weighs 5.6 oz. Hmmmmm????
I guess the lifetime warranty is gone. :-(
Didn't see that rod, i guess i have to try it out now, sounds awesome.
Now im just back to the problem of shipping anything over 8.5 foot here in Europe. |
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| Hard to believe that weight. Even the 7 10 swimbait rod which is rated 1-4 oz is heavier. Some kind of mistake if you ask me.
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| It's possible they are that light, especially with torzite guides.
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| Its in the legend tournament series, they use steel freams with alconite inserts. Still dont believe the weight, especially because St. Croix is probably the only company with a 100% true lure rating. But who knows.
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Location: Aurora | I'm betting, like most rods, that they feel a little tip heavy once there's a 6oz bait dangling from the end.
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| 39 degrees - 12/18/2017 8:23 PM
I used the Tackle Industries 10.5 foot for bucktails last year. Incredible, especially the for the figure 8. I am 59 years old and it makes deep wide figure 8s sooo easy.
I'll 2nd that! Boat side, these rods are amazing what you can do. These St Croix's should be great also. |
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| The short butts of the St. Croix musky rods have always driven me crazy. Honestly, a lot of their rods have overly short butts for my taste, especially the 8ft St. Croix XH Mojo Cat; who wants to cast a 1lb of bait or more with a rod that only as a 14in butt? 18in minimum butt length for casting those kind of pay loads.
I do love St. Croix rod blanks though, so I will have to check out these new 10ft ski rods.
but for now, TI rods have big butts, so I will just keep sticking with them in the mean time. |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Man, I log back in for the first time since the start of duck season and I find this awesome surprise!!! Now I won't have to customize a surf rod. Can't wait to get one of these bad boys customized. |
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