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Muskie Fishing -> Lures,Tackle, and Equipment -> Rod Holder Reccomendations
 
Message Subject: Rod Holder Reccomendations
NGE
Posted 12/8/2017 3:30 PM (#886413 - in reply to #885753)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations




Any rod holder can break..... period.

Scotties are terrible IMO, posts break over and over and over, especially in the cold. Down Easters occasionally can break but generally they will give you a few warning signs. They are cast metal so they can weaken over time especially if you pull hard baits and smash rocks. Hairline cracks in the socket, also the wings will start to warp outwards slowly.

I try to rotate my downeasters from portside to starboard a few times throughout the year to even out the pressure on the wings on each side.

Using a leash is a no brainer, $15 investment to save a few hundread.
supertrollr
Posted 12/10/2017 10:28 AM (#886541 - in reply to #885753)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations


downeast salty period.at more than 100 bucks per lure and at least 400 buck of rod n reel scotty and other plastic things is a no no.more than 15 years of trolling and i have never seen a downeast getting destroyed
horsehunter
Posted 12/10/2017 11:31 AM (#886548 - in reply to #886541)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations




Location: Eastern Ontario
supertrollr - 12/10/2017 11:28 AM

downeast salty period.at more than 100 bucks per lure and at least 400 buck of rod n reel scotty and other plastic things is a no no.more than 15 years of trolling and i have never seen a downeast getting destroyed


You have been lucky Iv'e seen several break and have friends tell me of breakage. I continue to use for my down rods because I haven't found anything I like the looks of better. Other than rods I want to bury the rod tips I use Berts tubes.

My fishing partner broke one on a small fish 2 weeks ago ( one that had handled many 50 inch plus fish in the past. He replaced it with another downeaster because we are still looking for something better. But they do break.
ToddM
Posted 12/10/2017 1:59 PM (#886562 - in reply to #885753)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations





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Location: oswego, il
You will also lose fish fighting to get a rod out of a downeast. I will stick with scotty, not had one break in 19 years of using them.
NGE
Posted 12/12/2017 3:16 AM (#886752 - in reply to #885753)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations




Never had a single issue ever getting the rod out of a downeaster while a fish is on. Not sure why you are having issues.
ToddM
Posted 12/12/2017 6:59 AM (#886760 - in reply to #885753)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations





Posts: 20216


Location: oswego, il
Seldom have i been able to get a rod out of a DE easy even trying to release pressure. Anyone's boat i have ever been in and i have two clamp ons i use for my little boat to put out a sucker rodnoff the back. Had to troll with them this year and had the same issues getting the rods out of ths holder. They almost didn't make it back to the dock. Then there is putting the rod in, which you have to do one handed. Not for me, i will use my easy to use and never seen one fail in 19 years scotty rod holders.
horsehunter
Posted 12/12/2017 7:46 AM (#886767 - in reply to #885753)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations




Location: Eastern Ontario
My Ford's better than your Chev but I'm looking for a Beamer.

I have Downeasters for down rods Berts Tubes for boards and Scotty's as extras but I'm looking for something better for down rods possibly machined . Never had an issue removing rod from a Downeaster.
Jerry Newman
Posted 12/12/2017 12:37 PM (#886812 - in reply to #886409)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations




Location: 31

I have had a couple DEs break in my boat through the years, if you use anything long enough it will eventually fail, especially in the cold... metal or plastic.

I noticed that there was a small crack developing on one of the ears of my DE down rod holder this fall and just replaced it before it broke, it was probably 20 years old.  HorseHunter, IMHO you and your friends don't need new holders… just need to do a visual inspection in October before it gets cold. I assume they worked great for 30 years?

Otherwise, if a rod pops out of a DE it's simply because it was not seated in the pocket correctly (I would personally never use a leash).  Many times I've glanced at the DEs after a re-set and noticed one not seated properly (some by me)… so a quick visual check should be part of your due diligence.

It's also a simple deal to just pull the rod and inline board forward to release the pressure before dropping it into the DE so you're not fighting it back into the holder.

supertrollr
Posted 12/13/2017 2:55 PM (#886936 - in reply to #886562)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations


ToddM - 12/10/2017 1:59 PM

You will also lose fish fighting to get a rod out of a downeast. I will stick with scotty, not had one break in 19 years of using them.

it's a man rod holder but even my wife have no problem to move the rod out of it
ToddM
Posted 12/14/2017 5:12 PM (#887036 - in reply to #886936)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations





Posts: 20216


Location: oswego, il
supertrollr - 12/13/2017 2:55 PM

ToddM - 12/10/2017 1:59 PM

You will also lose fish fighting to get a rod out of a downeast. I will stick with scotty, not had one break in 19 years of using them.

it's a man rod holder but even my wife have no problem to move the rod out of it


I lost an arm wrestling match with Don Knots once so maybe that's my issue.:-)
jdsplasher
Posted 12/14/2017 8:29 PM (#887054 - in reply to #886562)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations





Posts: 2269


Location: SE, WI.

ToddM - 12/10/2017 1:59 PM You will also lose fish fighting to get a rod out of a downeast. I will stick with scotty, not had one break in 19 years of using them.

 Todd, IMO, you do NOT loose fish because you can't remove the rod from the holder. If the fish gets off early, it's because the drag was too tight, OR, fish simply was not hooked up sufficiently.

 One of the rules in my boat R, do not pull rod from holder inside 5 seconds after strike. We never race to get rod from holder.

JD 

Jerry Newman
Posted 12/15/2017 11:44 AM (#887099 - in reply to #887054)
Subject: Re: Rod Holder Reccomendations




Location: 31
jdsplasher - 12/14/2017 8:29 PM

One of the rules in my boat R, do not pull rod from holder inside 5 seconds after strike. We never race to get rod from holder.

JD 

Now there's experience talking!

We don't have a 5 second rule but always try to increase speed and turn away from the strike before removing the rod from the holder… probably takes about 5 seconds.

There's a lot of variables, boat speed/type of line, ect. but for long line monofilament this procedure has worked well for us.  The last thing you want to do is give the fish slack line, especially in the early stages of the fight.

 

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