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Message Subject: Muskie Slaughter in WV
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 8/4/2017 12:43 PM (#873043 - in reply to #873031)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV





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Location: St. Lawrence River
sworrall - 8/4/2017 12:35 PM

Assuming those who disagree with you are idiots, morons, or stupid is not the way to approach the issue. I'd bet there's an excellent chance they know exactly what they are doing and this reaction is what they expect and are looking for.


Exactly my point. Par fir the course, Steve!

River2Stream
Posted 8/4/2017 1:47 PM (#873053 - in reply to #873031)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV




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This is nothing out of the ordinary for WV. I see numerous pictures of high 40's fish that fisherman pluck out of MI, LKR, and WF rivers on the regular. Now in saying this I have no problem with a fisherman taking one musky, or a few for that fact, a year if he/she chooses to do so. Especially if the fish is badly gill hooked or other dire circumstance. That is his/her right as a taxpayer and if those persons will eat the fish then I can understand it. However what these guys are doing is just ridiculous. If you do any kind of research on musky fishing at all, somewhere in the body of the text will be a paragraph about how rare and elusive the fish is and how they should be treated with care. These dudes are doing this intentionally but more over than that I cant see a motive. Stonecoal isn't a great bass lake. TBH it holds trout pretty well but thats about it. So I'm having a hard time deciphering why they are killing these fish other than for sport or meat.
The LKR just produced the new state record and I've seen pictures of our 'salt of the earth' holding up huge bloody fish by the dozens from that river. Just imagine what that and all the other fisheries could be if we had a larger length limit and people had better release techniques. AHHHH, wishful thinking lol.
WV has a decent musky stocking program (in addition to a ton of natural reproduction) but its turning out to be just like the trout stock truck followers in a roundabout way. "We'll throw 'em in, and you take 'em home". I think Chapter 9 of muskiesinc needs to step to the plate and try to get a policy change regarding creel limit and size regulations. Musky fishing has taken hold in a big way here in this state and if we don't protect this resource soon its only going to get worse.

Edited by River2Stream 8/4/2017 1:49 PM
25homes
Posted 8/4/2017 2:27 PM (#873063 - in reply to #872770)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV





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RIV I agree 100% the laws Must change and change fast to preserve fishieries....just ignorant what they are doing and for what...lots of better fish to eat that are much easier to catch

Edited by 25homes 8/4/2017 2:28 PM
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 8/4/2017 2:51 PM (#873069 - in reply to #873063)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV





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Location: St. Lawrence River
25homes - 8/4/2017 3:27 PM

RIV I agree 100% the laws Must change and change fast to preserve fishieries....just ignorant what they are doing and for what...lots of better fish to eat that are much easier to catch


they seem to catch em quite easily lmao.. more easily then most CPR anglers on this forum! hahaha
River2Stream
Posted 8/4/2017 5:43 PM (#873084 - in reply to #873069)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV




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JakeStCroixSkis - 8/4/2017 3:51 PM

25homes - 8/4/2017 3:27 PM

RIV I agree 100% the laws Must change and change fast to preserve fishieries....just ignorant what they are doing and for what...lots of better fish to eat that are much easier to catch


they seem to catch em quite easily lmao.. more easily then most CPR anglers on this forum! hahaha



Live bait goes a long way, Jake lol
muddymusky
Posted 8/4/2017 7:31 PM (#873091 - in reply to #872770)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV




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25homes - 8/4/2017 7:25 PM

If I'm not mistaking stone coal had special regulations 1 fish min of 52" I'm alloy 99% They absolutely breaking the law!!!!


Stonewall
25homes
Posted 8/4/2017 8:19 PM (#873101 - in reply to #872770)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV





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Yea just saw that muddy thanks just sad
killroy
Posted 8/5/2017 7:16 AM (#873123 - in reply to #872770)
Subject: RE: Muskie Slaughter in WV




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Location: Bowling Green, Kentucky
Tiger Tamer is right about what happened at green river lake. The Amish have completely ruined the Butler creek arm of the lake and have spread to other areas this year. I wish 19 fish were all they could claim. One alone said he had 27 so far this year.
NPike
Posted 8/5/2017 4:40 PM (#873175 - in reply to #873031)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV




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It reminds me of the pictures that were so common from the old days. When people thought of fish as an inexhaustible resource.
tndoug
Posted 8/6/2017 3:30 PM (#873257 - in reply to #872770)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV




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Chapter 9 of muskies inc is the best place to start to change size and creep limits.

TN has changed its size limit due to angler / club input.

I want to point out that some of the derogatory name calling and hillbilly reference
is not needed.
We all know these folks are azzhats.
If you see them in the water, don't waste your time trying to talk to them.
They want confrontation.
sworrall
Posted 8/6/2017 4:15 PM (#873260 - in reply to #873031)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
GOCmuskiesWV - 8/4/2017 7:34 PM

sworall This is not a matter of a disagreement between two people over the best way to fish a cold front...


That is not the main issue here. Read this please, and the point still stands beyond our posting policies.

http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=66...
esoxaddict
Posted 8/6/2017 5:14 PM (#873262 - in reply to #873260)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV





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You really don't have much ground to stand on when the practice is perfectly legal. That doesn't make it right, but as long as they are adhering to creel limits, they're well within the law. I've run into a few guys bragging about how they kill every one they catch because they're "eating all the walleyes/perch/crappies/etc." I usually just tell them their main diet is all the garbage fish and crayfish that eat all the walleye/perch/crappie eggs. If they're still listening I'll pull out my phone and show them pictures of a few walleyes over 30" that came out of one of the best muskie lakes on the continent, and say "This is what you get when you have predators to balance out the ecosystem.

Truth is WE're the ones eating all the walleyes. But nobody wants to hear that.
esox1980
Posted 8/6/2017 6:11 PM (#873263 - in reply to #872981)
Subject: Re: Muskie Slaughter in WV





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Location: Manitowish Waters WI
Don't believe Wisconsin can be compared to this for a second. Not on this scale. If I do see a fish kept its from an out of town vacationer looking for a mount. In my neck of the woods lake owners are just as protective of the muskies as the rest of us. Minnesota may be a different story

Edited by esox1980 8/6/2017 6:13 PM
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