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Posts: 735 Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Yes, I'm sure there is a ton of threads on this but I didn't see a poll. I like polls it's easier to organize info. I'm giving as many options as I can think of, but please vote based only on what you use for bucktails. Vote and give your reason. Thanks. | ||
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Posts: 1084 Location: Aurora | Less failures than the others with straight wire IME. | ||
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Posts: 77 Location: Southwest Pa | All my leader are tied Fluor in different lb ratings. Am I missing something here? | ||
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Posts: 1100 | Most likely not, its more what the individual prefer, i like to crimp. | ||
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Posts: 2687 Location: Hayward, WI | I voted the stealth option, though I make my own. I use 150 lb Seaguar and tie with a centauri knot and finish with a crimp. The crimp tidies up the tag and also keeps the centauri knot from slipping and snugging itself down on the snap or swivel. | ||
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Posts: 47 | Singlestrand wire: cheap, easy to make, positively cut proof. When you're cranking blades any faster than dead slow there's not much time to see if the leader is "invisible" or not. | ||
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Posts: 3 Location: Redgranite, WI | Ok, I'm partial to both aspects here but have been straight fluro for past few years, but I was recently told by an ol'timer just last week from the Sconnie northwoods that my catch percentage will increase if I switch to a wire leader. His demonstration and reasoning was due to what fluro looks like under water when hit by the ultraviolet rays, basically turning it into a large white glow stick. I'm very skeptical, but considering that fluro in the color spectrum does disappear after depths of 5ft, I'm not sure if the blacklight he used in his demonstration is a perfect comparison to what the sun's UV is going to make it look like.... | ||
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Figure8more - 6/7/2017 10:07 AM I'm very skeptical, but considering that fluro in the color spectrum does disappear after depths of 5ft, I don't understand this statement... if flouro is clear how does the depth in the water make any difference. Light refraction is why flouro is less visible not light/color absorption. | ||
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Posts: 20255 Location: oswego, il | Been using crimped fluoro leaders for everything for over 18 years. No issues. | ||
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Posts: 47 | Ahh. The ages old debate ensues. Most folks have their preferences and their supporting arguments. My bottom line works like this: With most aggressive presentations I believe muskies could give a rats' pajamas about a leader. Why? A.) Things move fast enough that much of the time you can't get a clear bead on the whole package. If you want to stop stuff and examine it more closely you have to reach out and touch it. We can grab it with our hands, muskies have no such options. If they want to sample/examine they have to grab it with, well, you get the idea. And... B.) Most of the rest of the animal world is not blessed with higher cognitive thinking as we are. Most of their behavior is conditioned response. That explains why they viciously attack a Cowgirl for example (yeah that looks real stealthy and natural). I do not believe that a fish's tiny pea brain has the capability to discern if a leader is made of steel, fluoro, mono or clothesline. For those that ascribe to the "leader shy" theory answer me this: Why (oh why) if leader visibility is so critical, how come fish can't figure out that three 8/0 4x strong treble hooks hanging from a lure (even though is looks eminently real) are danger? Just a question. Now I DO believe that leader composition affects lure performance, for better or worse and that CAN make a difference. Is fluoro "magic" because it's "invisible" or does the increased diameter of the leader make things run shallower to elicit bites from uplooking fish? Do we fish to deep to often or not enough? I know that becomes situational but you get the idea. While we're on the topic does/do red line, leader, hooks etc. become "invisible" or does it excite fish into striking because it represents "blood in the water"? Ain't marketing a wonderful thing? Here's the second bottom line: If it works for you, great, don't look to fix it. More than one way to skin a cat (or catch a musky). ![]() That's about 3 1/2 cents worth. | ||
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Posts: 735 Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Thanks for the 3 1/2 cents Otto. Lol. I 100% agree that a fish most likely doesn't care one bit about the leader. You could use a blaze orange leader and probably get just as many bites. Maybe more, who knows maybe colored leaders are the next big thing. Speaking of advertising, maybe I'll make my own neon colored leaders and say that they attract fish. My idea behind this thread was more so the durability of different leader types and advantage to the angler. Not so much one catches more fish than the other. What surprised me was how many people are picking only crimped floro for their favorite bucktail leader. From past threads I've looked at and my previous thread about wire leader material it seemed like people were afraid of crimps coming lose with both wire and floro. I have no worries about crimps because shark and tuna guys use them without issues. I just like to see what everybody's preference is. | ||
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Posts: 3508 Location: Elk River, Minnesota | After this, I'm back to solid wire... I've got a picture, but cannot get it sized correctly yet.. image is too big... will get posted soon.. Attachments ---------------- ![]() | ||
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