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Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/26/2017 10:20 PM (#847689)
Subject: Rod length for casting smaller baits?




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I hope you all understand what I am asking but I will do my best to explain. I've decided that I am going to have Thorne bros make me a rod on a st.croix premier blank with a power/ lure wt. rating of 3-8oz. What I'm not sure of is if I want to go with a 8' rod or a 8'9" rod. I will mostly throw baits between 2.5 - 5oz but I also want the capability to throw larger baits, maybe up to a mag dawg. I know that there is not perfect rod for everything but I don't get to musky fish very often and I'm just starting so I can only get one rod for now. So my question is, with those lures that weigh between 1-3oz (which I will throw occasionally) will I be better off with getting the slightly longer rod (8'9") to help me get better distance? I don't remember for certain but I believe I heard that with light lures a longer rod can help you out a little bit. Let me know what you guys think! Thanks!

RunNGun
Posted 1/27/2017 7:17 AM (#847699 - in reply to #847689)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?




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Definitely go as long as you can.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 1/27/2017 8:17 AM (#847705 - in reply to #847689)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?





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Location: Chisholm, MN
The only thing that I throw with my 8.5 is gliders. The rest get a 9 foot or better.
25homes
Posted 1/27/2017 8:19 AM (#847706 - in reply to #847689)
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go long as you can..how tall are you? Id go 9ft if possible...I just got custom Thorne bros and was gonna go 8'6" then decided I would go 9' but then after talking with thorne bros decided to go 9'6"
Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/27/2017 11:21 AM (#847724 - in reply to #847689)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?




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I'm a short guy, only about 5'8" and I since it's my first rod and I won't be Muskie fishing very often I want it to be able to handle most things well, just so I can get started.
Cloud7
Posted 1/27/2017 11:30 AM (#847726 - in reply to #847689)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?





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Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Musky_Mo16, where are you located? Are you in the Minnesota Metro or does Thorne Bros have to ship you your rod?

C7
Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/27/2017 11:42 AM (#847727 - in reply to #847689)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?




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I'm from Chicago so I would need it to be shipped. Or they said that they will be at a show in Wisconsin in march (I'm don't remember what show) and I could just pick up from there. I know that after 8'10" shipping increases so it would be nice to avoid that but I'll pay it if I'm getting a better rod more suited to my needs.
upnortdave
Posted 1/27/2017 11:53 AM (#847728 - in reply to #847727)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?




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Location: mercer wi
The premier 8'6"h blank ( 3-8 ), will throw smaller lures as well as mag dawgs with ease. I think that st croix best all around blank. Even at the standard 8'6" it will be a great starter rod. I wouldn't spend the extra cash for 3".
NathanH
Posted 1/27/2017 11:57 AM (#847730 - in reply to #847727)
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Location: MN
I would advise longer were the same height I have a 8ft H premier its a great rod but I wish I had more length. Like the 8'6" with another 3 inches on the handle so 8'9" would be great.
Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/27/2017 12:16 PM (#847731 - in reply to #847689)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?




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That's the reason I wanted to go to 8'9", so I could get the longer handle. And when I talked to Thorne bros, the price isn't really that bad, it would be around $270 with the extended rear grip, custom fore grip, and upgraded guides.
NathanH
Posted 1/27/2017 12:45 PM (#847734 - in reply to #847731)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?





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I think you have it figured out. I'm also throwing baits in the same range as you even less weight in some cases. I'm in the same boat on getting a longer Rod. Im getting a used big nasty with an extended handle in the hopes that works. But I really like the sound of your build. I would add a flair on the rear grip i think you will like it. It helps me as a shorter guy.
Cloud7
Posted 1/27/2017 1:59 PM (#847739 - in reply to #847727)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?





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Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Musky_Mo16
I strongly encourage you to go longer than 9' (Like 9'3-9'6) if you are going to have them customize a rod for you, and have them bring it to the show in Wisconsin. Opt for a longer than standard back handle, the handle style you want, and make the most of their customization.

I myself am a strong proponent of the XH Predator Blank, I use it to cast everything, but a for truly smaller baits you might want to talk to the rod shop guys about a Predator Heavy.

Food for thought...

C7
Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/27/2017 8:56 PM (#847776 - in reply to #847689)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?




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I don't really have a problem with a longer rod, it's just that it's extremely difficult for me to transport it. I have a small rod locker, I don't know exactly how small but my 7'3" bass rods don't fit. The longer bass rods aren't a problem because I just lay them in the bottom of the boat when I go to the lake. The problem with a 9' plus rod is that most of my muskie fishing I travel for at least a few hours and I pack all my fishing gear and other camping/cooking/clothes in the boat so I wouldn't want to lay the rods in the bottom of the boat. I guess I could have the customize a 2 piece rod, which I actually consider. Have you guys ever had problems with a two piece rod, specifically the St.Croix premier ones? I've never had any bait casting rod in 2 piece.
NathanH
Posted 1/28/2017 8:52 AM (#847814 - in reply to #847776)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?





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Location: MN
I would say think about a telescoping to or chaos Rod if want to go longer. The two piece rods are really heavy like 17 oz heavy. I still think that 8'9" would be a sweet Rod.
ARmuskyaddict
Posted 1/28/2017 11:06 AM (#847832 - in reply to #847689)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?





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Get some rod straps to secure it for transport and make a soft and flexible transport sleeve that you can stow easily then. Pipe insulation or pool noodles work. You won't regret going longer. That's what she said also.
Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/30/2017 5:16 PM (#848083 - in reply to #847689)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?




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Thanks everyone, I'm probably going to go with the 8'9". Do you guys think that I will be able to effectively fish jerk baits/glide baits with a rod that long. Like I said I will mostly be using bucks and topwater but I want to be able to fish a jerk bait if it's what the fish are asking for. Thanks
upnortdave
Posted 1/30/2017 5:27 PM (#848084 - in reply to #848083)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?




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Location: mercer wi
Practice practice practice, should be no worries.
Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/30/2017 6:00 PM (#848088 - in reply to #847689)
Subject: Re: Rod length for casting smaller baits?




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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
Well, time to practice shouldn't be a problem because when your muskie fishing you've got a lot of time (:
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