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| How does both boats handle 10-15 mph winds while fishing? Does it push the boat around and cause u to have to stay on trolling motor the whole time. Also is there much diff n front casting deck and back deck far as room and stability on either boats? Pros and cons? Thanks!! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The 2100 is a stable fast hull. So is the 621. The 621 is the boat you want to compare to the 2100. Both control well in big winds. Both perform well in truly rough water. Neither would beat the other on top end by much with a 300. The Ranger is built in Arkansas by a large boat builder also responsible for Triton and Stratos, and the parent company is Bass Pro.
Tuffy is built by a small regional company in WI by Fiberdome, a family owned business. They both know fiberglass very well. Both have been in business for about the same length of time. Both have excellent resale value.
The front deck in the Tuffy is huge, so is the front deck on the Ranger. The Tuffy 2100 has a specially designed rear deck, which is removable, and comes in two interiors, one with side tank storage rear port and starboard, one with a giant open rear cockpit. Both feature large rear livewells. Just Encase builds a custom back deck box for both.
Both brands breed very loyal owners, who will say ridiculous things based upon pride in ownership defending the brand, which indicates an excellent company behind the product. At the end of the day, both are built like tanks by manufacturers who know the craft of FRP (fiber reinforced plastic) very well.
The really big difference is in the 'amenities' offered in the Ranger. You'll see the differences when you look at both boats. Sort of a top of the line Chevy and a top of the line Caddy, so to speak.
Used to be when I was working for Skeeter in the late 80's and early 90's, Ranger was compared to Caddy, Champion to Lincoln, and Skeeter to Ferrari. Each went for a fairly well defined buyer.
Since then, Ranger has sold three times, Champion is gone, Skeeter sold three times and is now a Yamaha company, and Tuffy was purchased by Fiberdome. No one ever compared Ranger to Tuffy back then, but they sure did in the early to middle 80's. Funny how things change so much with the long surviving brands while actually, not much changes...end of the day you are buying a fishing boat.
Get in both and talk to owners of both brands. See if you can get a ride in both. Compare features, ride, and price, and buy the boat that trips your trigger. |
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Location: Lake Elmo, MN | Can't comment on the Tuffy as I've never owned one. I've owned 3 Rangers (518 / 520/ and a 620) and will tell you this....IMO there is no finer freshwater inland lake fishing boat than the Ranger 620. It's simply an amazing boat capable of handling anything tossed at it. I'll never own anything else.
The front deck is gigantic. I regularly fish 3-4 guys out of it, throwing BIG baits with no worries.
BRUTAL expensive ?? ....oh yeah. Worth every penny ??....absolutely.
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Location: Hayward, WI | I don't own either boat, but own a Tuffy 1760. I could say with reasonable certainty, that the boats you're looking at will most likely handle that 10-15 mph wind as good or better than anything else you could buy.
Being on the trolling motor frequently or just letting autopilot take over is based on your preference of how precise you want boat control to be. |
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| I'd open up your boat purchase to Saltwater Bay Boats if your fishing big water. I love my 620 but wouldn't hesitate to sell it for a 21-24' Bay Boat. Once you get used to operating a boat standing up in big water it's really tough to go back to sitting down. I might be one of the few guys that drives my 620 standing up. Whenever I decide to sell my 620 it will be for a Bay Boat. That being said I've seen those Tuffy's up close on and off big water and they run great and can handle just as well as a 621. It will come down to price, preference and what best suits your needs. Both great boats!! |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | 10 - 15mph winds are relative ... how big is the water and what side of the lake are you on?
i can't understand how you could ever just turn the boat over to autopilot running structure unless you are fishing a featureless shoreline. to me no matter what boat you are on, tm control is an active job. wind, current, shape, orientation all take more specific inputs to do the job right and you can never get a boat big enough to take that reality away.
between the two boats i'd be more focused on what's hanging off the back than the hull and then you may want to just look at your future and check depreciation rates but either one would be a great ride.
for the Saltwater Bay Boats ... i've had two and they are great ... until you get older and want to sit down after a long day. there are plusses and minuses with them too, but i will agree they are fun to run in the crazy stuff!!
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Location: Contrarian Island | Rangers fit and finish is 2nd to none... I've been in lots of Tuffys, heck I even own one...and lots of Rangers, new to old... they are the best built boats made... Tuffys are nice too...
10-15 mph wind is nothing for either of those boats... big heavy boats like that don't get pushed around by 10-15
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| Nicely said Steve, his post is spot on. Both are excellent boats, it comes down to what fits your style of fishing, and budget. I know of one person here in ND who traded a 620 for a 2100. While fishing a tourney this weekend, I had another angler tell me he had fished in a 2100 in Canada. His words were "we had $80,000 Rangers in our group and the Tuffy ate them up on the rough stuff. It was like sitting in my living room in the Tuffy on big waves." This gentleman did not own a Tuffy or Ranger, just his observation. Spend some time in both. I think you will find a boat to fit your needs. |
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| The 2100 tiller looks like the uss enterprise with no wasted space imo they are both great boats but what has kept me tuffy loyal is customer service iam sure Ranger is good also do your homework and get what's best for you |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i saw a picture of herbie's with him standing next to it and it is awe inspiring!! that thing is beautiful ... not Herbie, the boat. |
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| This is a decision that can only be made by actually riding in both boats, especially for a musky angler. Steve nailed it when he said both brands breed loyal owners that can say ridiculous things at times. Hulbert runs a 2100 on st clair if I'm correct. That's pretty rough water if you're concerned about it. |
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| Can a guy get the 350 Verado on the back of the 2100? Seems like all of the 21 footers except Ranger's are being rerated to 350 hp. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Believe so, yes. |
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| I own a 620 and have had a number of 621's as well. I have fished with Hulbert in his 2100 on St Clair in a decent chop. I thought the 2100 rode a bit better in big stuff than either Ranger and of course the cost is a fair amount less. The Rangers really shine in the storage area vs the Tuffy, there is quite a bit more, it is finished better and has a better gasket system for keeping water out. Fit and finish goes to the Ranger... it costs more to do it well and that shows. They both fish about the same as far as wind boat control, drifting etc. Chevy vs Cadillac is a pretty good comparison, you can buy a bare bones fleet trim Suburban for half of what an Escalade costs...they will both tow your boat but you will notice the differences in everything else. Both work but they are different in concept. |
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Location: Eagan, MN | And Rangers have really solid windshields. Take it from a human crash test dummy...me.  |
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| Well I can't speak about the 2100, if I didn't love my 1890 so much I would get one. My 1890 is built like a tank, its 5 years old and has absolutely no hull issues, its fast, handles all types water conditions and dry. I would suspect the 2100 is just that much better. Someday a 2100 will be in my garage on my next upgrade. |
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Location: Lake Elmo, MN | Ha...I love these posts. 2 things evoke passionate responses from owners....BOATS, and TRUCKS.
As a Ranger 620 owner I'd offer this advice.....you cannot really go wrong with EITHER rig so enjoy the buying process and know you've made the right decision regardless of what that decision is. They are BOTH terrific rigs that will last you nearly a lifetime. That's a good position to be in.
Now....what color ??? THAT's the tough question. |
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| Good advice from everyone! Thanks a lot. Where I'm going with this now is $35,000 is around my budget and that will buy a newer used tuff 2100 with lower hours, compared to a older ranger that had been used a lot more and with a lot more hours on it. That was why I was trying to git opinions and way my options out and keep a open mind on it. Thanks again everyone! |
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| I own a 620fs. Great boat and I can't say enough about it. That being said, test ride both boats to compare. Your opinion is what matters. |
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