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| All you people who are complaining should also not be getting replica mounts because they needed to use a real fish to cast the form from so you replica is killing fish! |
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Location: Verona, WI | Am I missing something - I haven't seen anyone ripping Mr. Gelb on this?
Congrats on the monster fish - I would love to row troll something like that. Knowing how light my row troller is that fish must have drug him around forever.
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Location: Wisconsin | Congradulations Mr. Gelb on another HUGE FISH,
Also I do not think that a person of your caliber needs to try and explain himself to any of us. YOU ARE THE MAN !!
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Location: Brookfield, WI | It's obvious there has been a lot of disagreement about what happened with Mr. Gelb's fish. Since I barely qualify as a fisherman, I hesitated for three pages worth of posts before I felt like I could chime in.
It's now 3:30 Thursday afternoon, I'm all fidgety, and this has been going through my head all day, so I'm going to put it out there.
I hope Aaron Kampman gets three sacks, Brett throws three touchdowns, and the Packers win tonight!
I also hope when I'm Mr. Gelb's age I have the stength to swing a golf club and get in and out of a golf cart, much less row troll in freezing temperatures and catch giant muskies by myself. I think the technique utilized to catch that fish is astounding, and his dedication to getting it done is almost frightening. Thrill of the hunt indeed.
Go Pack! Go Tom Gelb!
Kevin
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| that fish looks like a 30 inch girth in some of those pic's. HUGE. I can't believe he has the patience/endurance to row troll a week with no hookups . At 70 ??? I think he needs to pee in a cup !!!!!! I'm sure he wished the fish would have lived so he would not have had any of this happen, but stuff happens. We can't stop fishing for them. MD |
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| Nice Job Tom
Truly one of the masters of this game!!!!
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| This website is about "positive" and "informative" posts and threads, which is why I visit this site............I have learned alot about musky fishing and met a bunch of great people from this board............. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | We have some pretty strict moderating policies here at MuskieFIRST that we attempt to follw very closely and we take these policies very seriously. We understand that there will always be a percentage of muskie fisherman that will not appreciate these rules nor will they agree with our policies. However, we do sincerly hope that we constantly provide these users and all others with quality muskie fishing information that is both educational as well as entertaining. If you find positive value from this site, we sincerly hope that as MuskieFIRST and all OutdoorsFIRST products grow and develop we will be able to bring to you a quality product. |
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| MRoberts - 11/29/2007 1:59 PM
Tom made the decision on his own to keep last years fish, please read the following and at least stop arguing that point.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=554999
You know what’s cool, Tom most likely isn’t even reading all this crap because he is probably out fishing right now. We are all just POSERS when you think about it!
Nail A Pig!
Mike
I respect you as a source, and googled the same "official version" but have a distinct memory of a post on here after last years fish, saying that he tried to release that fish before keeping it, and I believe it was Sworrall himself who posted it after receiving it from someone, but it also might have been another poster. Of course I am getting on in years, and as an indicator, I notice my oatmeal no longer has any taste or smell to it...."
I believe some other posters remember that also and the two stories seem somewhat at odds with each other.
Edited by firstsixfeet 11/29/2007 4:29 PM
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Location: Hastings, mn, 55033 | "You know what’s cool, Tom most likely isn’t even reading all this crap because he is probably out fishing right now. We are all just POSERS when you think about it!"
I guess you can look at it that way. Of course many of us this site are also fathers, husbands etc. And most in that situation find that on a Tuesday(or Thursday) afternoon they're most likely at work. Kids need food, clothes, braces and a college education. The wife needs help around the house, wants christmas lights put up and taken down etc. See for many of the people on this board, fishing on Tuesday afternoons could make you a "true" muskie fisherman, but at the cost of your wife, kids and boss all thinking you were a POSER!  |
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Location: Waukesha, WI | The Musky Fugitive
Alright, listen up, people. Our fugitive has been on the swim for ninety minutes. Average fin speed under uneven surface temperatures barring injuries is 4 miles-per-hour. That gives us a radius of six miles. What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every weed bed, rock bar, sand flat, primary break, secondary break, piers, boat docks, and channel bouys in that area. Checkpoints go up at fifteen miles. Go get him.
hopefully somewhat humorous in amongst the stupidity filter. Isn't this the riddler thread? 
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| I gotta hand it to the moderaters on this topic. Deleteing all the negative posts is exactly what I would have done. Seriously excellent job. People don't want to hear that crap. The people that are trash talking and getting their posts deleted should also be happy that the moderaters are keeping them from making themselves look stupid.
Tom, awsome fish. Don't feel like you owe us an explanation for anything.
As long as the moderaters are keeping this topic clean, I don't see any reason for it being locked. Let as many people congradulate Tom that possibly can. WHAT A FISH!
Edited by IntroC 11/29/2007 9:37 PM
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| was this 2 am or 2 pm? You are an animal for fishing in these conditions but if this was at night my respect goes even higher
Great Fish!! |
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| It was the day he reported...at 2am there was 35-50mph gusts....no way!
Still extreme conditions, his hands must have felt like fly swatters handling that fish for 2 hours.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Actually, this thread has been pretty easy to care for. There were not any really negative comments, just a few that were either misinformed or qualified for Addict's 'filter' description. |
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Location: Twin Cities | Awesome fish, unbelievable. My hat's off to Mr. Gelb no matter what and especially after getting into the water himself in those conditions. That's really asking for trouble when alone.
I'm fairly new to this site, but not hte internet. Sure do seem to have a lot of "everyone's a hero from behind a keyboard syndrom" going on with fish sizing. Good lord people, if some of you spent as much time studying up on next season or something actually useful rather than telling other people how big or small their fish is or what they did wrong keeping it, this could be an even better site. It's no wonder people avoid these places or don't post at all. That's truly a shame. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Uhhh, traffic here hasn't exactly been slow lately, J. We hope folks here feel pretty comfortable they won't be needlessly abused and can expect this to be a basically friendly place to visit no matter one's stance on any subject of debate. Sure, the debate gets heated at times, but most of our visitors pretty well self police and the atmosphere here stays pretty clear as a result.
Posting takes a desire to stick one's nose out there alittle, and it isn't for everyone, but we are certainly happy those who do are as informative and generous with good information as they are. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Does anyone know if there has been a bigger fish caught this year("verified" that is) from the Indiana-to-NW Ontario Region most of us hail from???
I can't recall seeing any photos of anything looking like this in '07..
Edited by Musky Brian 11/29/2007 11:31 PM
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Location: Oregon | Wow, what a fish! A cool story story too, wish I could have been there to see that beast come to the boat.
My guess is that fish was in bad shape as soon it came out of the water. If you take a fish out of the water in 12 degree air temps the gills will freeze almost immediately.
RM
Edited by RiverMan 11/29/2007 11:50 PM
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | yackety shmackety, go pack, go whoever else.
Mr. Gelb,
Congrats on another pig. You have put your time in for sure. I look forward to seeing Rick's rep! |
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Location: WI | I didn't read all 5 pages.. but I have great respect for Mr. Gelb, and believe him to be one of the premier individuals in our sport today. Awesome fish Tom! |
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Location: Verona, WI | I think Jed hit it right on the head. At that temperature the fishing coming out of the water is going to be in pretty rough shape. Since it's a cold water critter it doesn't have any natural body heat to warm its body parts so it will move to whatever temperature its environment puts it in. Exposure to 12 degree air means 12 degree (and frozen gills). Something to ask a fishery biologist.
Shane
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2 big fish row-trolling in 2 years.
I think it's time to sell the motot-boat!
Seriously, seems funny to me that more people aren't focusing on that point, seems to be a bit of a pattern there for big fish.
Not going to knock Tom at all, things happen. I hope I can fish like that when I'm 70.
This does seem like a good case for fishing with barbless hooks though.
I do that often in windy conditions when I'm alone.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i don't see where a barbless hook has anything to do with not running into an incedental problem releasing ... help me? |
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Location: Hastings, mn, 55033 | Perhaps with barbless hooks it would have been much easier to get the jaws unpinned and would have sped up the release. There would have been no need to cut hooks to get them removed. |
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| If I read the story right, Tom had problems un-hooking the fish, and he has problems cutting hooks.
Barbless hooks come out faster and easier, you very seldom have to resort to cutting them.
Pretty simple.
JS
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| Matt,
I enjoyed getting the chance to meet you a while back. I hope that Tom's new grandkids are doing well. Tell your wife we miss shooting the bull with her here at work.
I have become a lurker on this and other boards. I just thought I'd come out to say "hello". Tell your Dad he is a true LEGEND! The next time he comes to town I'd love to pick his brain. Thanks for sharing the details.
Bill C. aka the greenduck
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Location: minocqua, wi. | my comment above in no way is associated to the gelb fish ... on that i have no comment ... because basically it's none of my business (there's my comment) ... but, separately, i don't see the difference in a hook with or without a barb as it relates to the fish and the unhooking of same or inhaling of same.
and fishboy ... if many had their way ... they would be driving boats with planer boards trolling trout, twins, tom, long and big carr right now ... be careful what you wish for.
it's interesting to see how everyone feels they should be answered to by others ...
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Location: Lake Forest, Illinois | Congratulations Mr. Gelb on a yet another giant. I think we should all focus on the real story here...you are doing something in inland WI waters that nobody else is doing. Absolutely amazing...way to go!!
Sean Murphy
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| "Does anyone know if there has been a bigger fish caught this year("verified" that is) from the Indiana-to-NW Ontario Region most of us hail from???
I can't recall seeing any photos of anything looking like this in '07.."
I assume verified means killed and yes there has been a bigger fish killed in MN this year.. |
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