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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Pointerpride102 - 1/28/2014 7:19 PM
Anyone fishing out of expensive boats that isn't having a good time, please PM me and I'll gladly trade you my boat for yours.
I too am ready to upgrade. |
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| And also anyone fishing out of a perect boat and in perect conditions call me. Take this to your perect hart. ??? spell check is free take that to hart |
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Location: The desert | Slamr - 1/28/2014 6:50 PM
Pointerpride102 - 1/28/2014 7:19 PM
Anyone fishing out of expensive boats that isn't having a good time, please PM me and I'll gladly trade you my boat for yours.
I too am ready to upgrade.
Plenty of excitement to be had in my boat:
"I wonder if the splash from this medium sized bucktail will be enough to top the gunwale and sink me?"
"Fishing during allergy season is exhilarating. One sneaky sneeze and the boat will flip over."
"Do you think we'll make it back to the landing today?"
"Hold on, the motor only engages at 6000 RPM. Sit up front so we don't flip over."
All this excitement could be yours with a simple PM! |
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Location: oswego, il | I bought my first boat when I was 16. It was a 14' starcraft with a 9.5 Johnson, eagle flasher and a 36lb transom mounted trolling motor. I fished all over with that thing. When I was 14 my parents rented me and my younger brother our own boat on eagle lake, a 16ft naden with a 20 Johnson. No depth finder, no trolling motor. My brother and I would go all over just the two of us on out on our own. Finding and fishing our own spots. We caught fish, sometimes the guides wanted to know where we were going because we were out fishing them.
make the most of what you have and enjoy it. It doesn't define who you are.
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| The beauty of musky fishing is that we all play on the same field. You may have better equipment then I but unlike hunting none of us own the land or have a $15k lease that us full of 175" Booners. You maybe able to buy big whitetails but the waters I fish are all open to public fishing. I think I get it.
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| There is pretty wide gap between antiquated junk and the best of everything. I know a guy who upgrades his electronics every year. I think that is overkill but if you are using Phluger knucklebusters with Dacron an upgrade is certainly in order. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Who's 'You'? |
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| Well Slamr was talking about the old Phlugers and anybody who remembers those can appreciate how far tackle has come. I don`t think 3 Jims point was that we should be using 40 year old tackle only that you don`t need the latest and greatest. |
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn | sworrall - 1/28/2014 9:38 PM
Who's 'You'? . Jim shockey? |
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Location: E. Tenn | The big question...
"Do the muskies really give a #*^@??" |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | THE most important tool of any boat, or gear to me, is a #*^@ good trolling motor that always works and has enough power to get me through a day and fish spots effectively in less then desirable winds. So you can take away my Ranger and Big Nasty, but you ain't taking my 101 36 v Terrova! |
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Location: WI | My first boat. A 14' Starcraft that I built into the best little muskie boat it could be. A 46 lb motorguide gps and casting decks. Loved that boat and caught a lot of Muskies all over Wisconsin. My point is make the best of what you've got. I out grew that boat but to each his own. Just for the record I like all my nice stuff now.
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| I'm a person who likes to buy the best equipment money can buy. Right now with restrictions due to wife and kids I am probably right about in the middle of the spectrum between the guys with REALLY nice equipment and the guys with the basics. All that being said, what I find hilarious and entertaining is to see the guys with nice equipment get so annoyed by this subject. |
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Location: Smith Creek | When I started muskie fishing we used a 14 foot boat... with no electronics... powered by a 7.5 Merc and something called "oars" (don't see them much anymore)... sometimes on Lake Superior. Catching a fish (usually small) was cause for celebration, as was making it home alive.
I wish my dad was still around so I could take him and grandpa out with all the gear I have now. We might stay dry and have a shot at actually catching some of the fish we saw. |
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| Had a 14ft boat with a 9.9 johnson use to go through the locks to lake calumet,and lake michigan .Did have an auto pilot without the footpedal which was nice.0723 |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Ja Rule - 1/29/2014 6:09 AM
I'm a person who likes to buy the best equipment money can buy. Right now with restrictions due to wife and kids I am probably right about in the middle of the spectrum between the guys with REALLY nice equipment and the guys with the basics. All that being said, what I find hilarious and entertaining is to see the guys with nice equipment get so annoyed by this subject.
Who is annoyed? I see the folks 'without' making all sorts of comments, not so much from those who have it all.
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| What it aint for me and musky is living in Arkansas... Digest that and then go look at whatever equipment you have and I'm sure you will feel better at whatever you have. What it is is now working for myself and having the freedom to make a few trips, meet new people and relax and just fish and drink lotsa beer. |
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Location: Money, PA | I love to fish and if I have the dough, #*^@ right I'm gonna be comfortable! |
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Location: Chippewa Falls, WI | I first read this thread a few days ago and thought, this won't go anywhere and yet here it is at the top again today...suprised the Pres didn't use it to make his point about income inequality during the state of the union last night! Lets just call it what it is...people who don't have and can't afford the "finer things" are quick to point out that they are better for it! Those that have the $$ to buy what ever they want don't care what the others think. I can say this (without trying to offend anyone) because I used to be the first guy and now I'm the second. I grew up fishing with my dad who didn't have the money to buy a nice boat or great electronics, he won a 40 hp suzuki when I was a kid taking first place in a muskies inc fall contest. He had that same motor on his same 16' sylvan until last year! He's a D@MN good fisherman and the best father and friend I could hope for!! The only thing I cared about was fishing with him and my brothers. Fast forward a couple decades and all the 5'6" rods and abu 6500's have been replaced and we fish outta 21' rangers with big HB graphs, 101 terrova's and I have a bunch of brand new baits.
I'll share a short story...My dad likes to fish a certain island on the chip a very certain way b/c he's caught a lot of fish doing it. I saw a spot on the back side that looked good on the HB graph and against his advice we fished it the way I wanted to (in a spot he hadn't bothered casting to in the past). As we reached the location that looked great by map I raised a solid 4' fish and even though it didn't eat, my dad looked at me and said, "for 20 years I never new that little spot was out here! Guess I learned a new trick today"
Better gear doens't make me a better fisherman but when asked (by the dealer that sold me my graphs and terrova) why I spend that kinda money on something that I only use 10-15 times a year? My response was simple and straight forward, "because I can". I look at it this way, I don't have the time to spend countless hours learning a lake and the different breaks it has, I use the HB to do that! I have a business to grow and clients to take care of along with a wife and two young boys at home. I feel guilty about taking too much time away from them so I do what I can to speed up my learning process by having the best equipment available. Its no different then using a new garmin gps for deer or elk hunting. Sure can I read a compass and a map, yup! Would I rather have our Montana canvas wall tent for our elk hunts and top of the line cabelas beds to sleep on or would I rather have the thin coleman tents and air mattress' that go flat every night that we used when thats all we could afford??? The answer is simple, buy the best equipment you can. Does it make me a better fisherman no, only time on the water, and this website  will do that!!
By the way I don't think my dad minds riding behind the windshield and relaxing while we're running aross LOTW on a windy day 
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| My last muskie trip this past fall was with custom rod, 300 ej, and really nice waders. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | JaRule … you got a mouse in your pocket? |
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Location: The desert | ARmuskyaddict - 1/29/2014 10:06 AM
What it aint for me and musky is living in Arkansas... Digest that and then go look at whatever equipment you have and I'm sure you will feel better at whatever you have. What it is is now working for myself and having the freedom to make a few trips, meet new people and relax and just fish and drink lotsa beer.
I'll trade you. You're in the waterfowl Mecca.
Everyone wants what they don't have. Dreaming big is part of living. I dream about winning the lottery because it would be a blast. That's not to say I'm not happy with what I have, because I am very happy. But if we didn't dream big life wouldn't be much fun. Dreaming gives the drive to achieve. We all dream about the big musky, some more than others. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I don't have the 'best' of everything, but I do have the 'best' for me. I use St. Croix, Abu, Custom X, Migizi, and Tooth Tamer rods, and have my favorite of each. Spinning rods, I use Berkley and Fenwick. Ice I use St. Croix, Frabill, and Fenwick. Nice stuff. My flipover is a side step insulated Frabill, that's a great shelter but is not an Ice Castle.
I use Abu and Shimano reels with a couple Okumas mixed in. I have a very nice 998c SI 'Bird. Like that alot. My bow mount motor is 10 years old. Works great. My boat is 4 years old, and the motor and trailer 10 years old. All work great.
I have the opportunity to run a new 21' ride with maxed HP every year. I don't, it is way overkill for most of my fishing. I borrow Zach's when I need one.
All the gear I use are tools to complete what for me is not only my hobby, but a large part of my vocation. Any of them don't fit the need exactly... I can't do my job well, and don't enjoy the day on the water as much.
Tools, and good tools. Not all brand new top of the line, but good tools. |
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Location: Illinois | What it Aint for me personally?
It aint about standing in a leaky rental boat, with my feet at an angle and my back killing me.
It aint about having a cheap leader that glistens in the sun and breaks on contact.
It aint about having a reel that is going to crap out on me the 1st day of a week long trip.
It aint about getting drenched because the poncho I bought for 7 bucks doesn't keep me dry.
It aint about blowing out my shoulder socket trying to reel in a lure with a Zebco 888
It's about fun, and none of those things are fun. |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | husky_jerk - 1/29/2014 4:30 PM
What it Aint for me personally?
It aint about standing in a leaky rental boat, with my feet at an angle and my back killing me.
It aint about having a cheap leader that glistens in the sun and breaks on contact.
It aint about having a reel that is going to crap out on me the 1st day of a week long trip.
It aint about getting drenched because the poncho I bought for 7 bucks doesn't keep me dry.
It aint about blowing out my shoulder socket trying to reel in a lure with a Zebco 888
It's about fun, and none of those things are fun.
they were 20 years ago! now..not so much. |
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| Well what better way to spend your hard earned cash before you croak than Muskie equipment. I`m a bit like Steve in that I could have a bigger boat it`s just not rite for me. The only thing that is irritating is when people are educating others and insist they need this or that when they don`t. A classic example. You need this rod and reel to throw pounders. ( Saw this advise being given to a 70 year old club member). My question does he need to throw pounders? I managed to catch quit a few without throwing pounders. You need this gps to do this and that. Ok but the guy is fishing a 300 acre lake. What you see as invaluable someone else may not even need. |
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| BenR, you werent stream fishing were you? |
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| All the time ,and money we spend on this crazy sport.What it ain`t?It just ain`t right .We are some sick individuals!0723 |
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| Big boats don't always mean big fish!! It takes hard work, homework, time on water and MANY other variables. I started the Muskie game a few years ago. I was 16 and used a 14 Ft Lund powered by a 9.9 Horse. there have been a 55.25, 55.5 and a 56 incher in that boat. No electronics, a very small hand trolling motor. Just hard work, learning the spots inside out from time on the water and obviously a little luck. People get to concerned when they don't have the "best" stuff. If you can dial down the lure, speed, angle, and timing....the Muskie could care less!
Now that I have grown up a few years, and able to have a little extra cash....I do now enjoy the big boy toys a little more |
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| Anything to the post above? If you don't think on lakes like V, your electronic footprint makes a difference you are crazy, run all your 10" graphs and your 101 trolling motor ( yep I have them too) over top/ too close to 50" + shallow fish and see how "active" these fish generally are. Lakes with a lot of pressure and I know the spots well.. I've started to turn my electronics off and use the TM as little as possible...BOMBS AWAY!
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