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Posts: 734 Location: Watertown, MN | What about Bob M and thunder on the water, the first muskie show to air consistantly on tv about muskie and big pike. RK is right on, look alot at the Founder of MI and you cant go wrong with those names and collectively what they have done. | ||
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Posts: 13688 Location: minocqua, wi. | does Illinois qualify in that statement? | ||
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jonnysled - 6/14/2012 11:21 AM does Illinois qualify in that statement? Maybe not in their home state because that fisherie is relatively new, but there are lots of them and they seem to be fishing EVERYWHERE....and dont forget the Lindners are originally from Illinois. | |||
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jonnysled - 6/14/2012 11:21 AM does Illinois qualify in that statement? If it was not for IL, there would not be enough funding for muskies in the midwest period. They are the foundation of midwest muskies regarless of the state. | |||
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Posts: 7090 Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | tomyv - 6/13/2012 7:43 PM Slamr. Possibly a negative impact, but an impact no less. Nothing but love for the Country Kid, as always. | ||
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Posts: 13688 Location: minocqua, wi. | Guest - 6/14/2012 11:36 AM If it was not for IL, fish on!!! ... LOL | ||
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Posts: 1767 Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Guest - 6/14/2012 11:36 AM jonnysled - 6/14/2012 11:21 AM does Illinois qualify in that statement? If it was not for IL, there would not be enough funding for muskies in the midwest period. They are the foundation of midwest muskies regarless of the state. hmmmm....Yeah, not buying that one... | ||
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Musky Brian - 6/14/2012 11:48 AM If it was not for IL, there would not be enough funding for muskies in the midwest period. They are the foundation of midwest muskies regarless of the state. hmmmm....Yeah, not buying that one... I would. Ask any manufacture an they will tell you there is more spending per capita by Illinois guys than anywhere. I would have to believe that would translate to more spending on such things as M.I., clubs, etc | |||
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money spent on baits and tackle is not related at all to the money and time an angler will invest in the resource. if that was the case every lake in minnesota would have muskies and the DNR would have plenty of cash in the bank. | |||
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This is a tough question. The tavern owners in Wisconsin surely helped with all the crazy lies and fictious reports of ridiculous fish being caught. Even though it was all BS, it kept the interest alive and had people chasing records that never existed. The giant musky was a 46" on ice in a cooler infront of the bar up town. Honestly though, it's got be about promoting the sport and getting people involved. Tony Rizzo got a lot of the early movement really going and he had a lot of exposure in the media. He didn't lie about his fish. Doug Johnson wrote a lot of early articles and put a ridiculous amount of miles and hours on LOTW, which is a classic musky lake that anyone can catch fish on. And of course, Tony Grant. No has single handedly created more professional musky fishermen than he has. He put created a solid musky-haven in the south. One of the nicest guys in the industry. Funnier than hell. And a great fisherman. | |||
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Posts: 3157 | good reading Edited by happy hooker 6/14/2012 1:18 PM | ||
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Posts: 553 Location: 15 miles east of Lake Kinkaid | As a relative newcomer to the sport, the only person I would add to the list is Pete Maina (if someone else has not already). His relation with Bass Pro Shops, Musky Mania Tackle, and The Next Bite has made him a very recognizable figure. I have to add, he also perfected the large minnowbait when he made the 10" Jake. | ||
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Posts: 13688 Location: minocqua, wi. | MuskyMATT7 - 6/14/2012 3:01 PM As a relative newcomer to the sport, the only person I would add to the list is Pete Maina (if someone else has not already). His relation with Bass Pro Shops, Musky Mania Tackle, and The Next Bite has made him a very recognizable figure. I have to add, he also perfected the large minnowbait when he made the 10" Jake. yah, but he hunts with a poodle ... | ||
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Posts: 1220 | I agree with the Illonois folks having and spending the big bucks, it's a good thing too cuz tickets at Lambeau are pricey if they ever want to see a great football team in person!!! | ||
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Posts: 8834 | Musky Brian - 6/14/2012 11:48 AM Guest - 6/14/2012 11:36 AM jonnysled - 6/14/2012 11:21 AM does Illinois qualify in that statement? If it was not for IL, there would not be enough funding for muskies in the midwest period. They are the foundation of midwest muskies regarless of the state. hmmmm....Yeah, not buying that one... Brian, we've got 5 MI chapters within an hour of each other. Our chapter has membership of over 300, and is one of the top MI chapters nationwide. The amount of musky anglers down here is astounding, and there is a stupid amount of money that goes along with that. Head up to Northern WI some weekend and ask where everybody is from. Ask around your favorite Canadian Lodge, and see where everybody is from. Talk to the members of your local lake association, see where they are from... Take a look at attendance for the Chicago Musky Show, or the revenue from the individual MI fundraisers. Other than the Lindners, I'm not aware of many individuals who have had a major influence in the sport, but the money coming from Northern IL and going into all those fisheries in MN, WI, and Canada is amazing. Edited by esoxaddict 6/14/2012 4:01 PM | ||
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Steve Cady, Lucky Libby, Lee Tauchen and Jeff Tilkens | |||
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Posts: 1168 | Guest - 6/14/2012 1:08 PM Musky Brian - 6/14/2012 11:48 AM If it was not for IL, there would not be enough funding for muskies in the midwest period. They are the foundation of midwest muskies regarless of the state. hmmmm....Yeah, not buying that one... I would. Ask any manufacture an they will tell you there is more spending per capita by Illinois guys than anywhere. I would have to believe that would translate to more spending on such things as M.I., clubs, etc Good point about Illinois residents spending more. It makes sense that they would have more cash to spend. There isn't as big of a market for NFC North Division Champs stuff as there is for Super Bowl Champs stuff. Throw in the Cubs...no, wait, Cubs fans actually will spend money on a goat load of busted dreams and broken down hopes. | ||
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Posts: 8834 | ulbian - 6/14/2012 4:47 PM Guest - 6/14/2012 1:08 PM Musky Brian - 6/14/2012 11:48 AM If it was not for IL, there would not be enough funding for muskies in the midwest period. They are the foundation of midwest muskies regarless of the state. hmmmm....Yeah, not buying that one... I would. Ask any manufacture an they will tell you there is more spending per capita by Illinois guys than anywhere. I would have to believe that would translate to more spending on such things as M.I., clubs, etc Good point about Illinois residents spending more. It makes sense that they would have more cash to spend. There isn't as big of a market for NFC North Division Champs stuff as there is for Super Bowl Champs stuff. Throw in the Cubs...no, wait, Cubs fans actually will spend money on a goat load of busted dreams and broken down hopes. Are 'ya kiddin'?? Cubs fans just like to go to the ball game and drink. I don't think there's ever been any expectations of victory. And the Bears? We even have a song that they play on the radio every year at the end of the season called "The Bears Still Suck"... And since any money we spend here in IL either finds its way into corrupt politicians pockets, or those of the lawyers who either throw them in jail or try to keep them out? Might as well donate it to the fisheries in other states. At least we get some enjoyment out of that! | ||
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Posts: 32930 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Back on topic.... | ||
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Posts: 719 | 1.Jesus 2.Larry the Cable Guy 3.Al Lindner | ||
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The question was "impact on the sport"...does that mean fishing or the fishery? If its fishery, then of course props to all those MI folks. None of our fisheries would be what they are without the hard work of so many!! If "the sport" means fishing...thats a different thing. In my short time it was Al Linder, James Linder, Bob M, Saric, Heiting, Stange and, the noticeably absent, Larry Dahlberg(big impact on lure and equipment advances and killer TV) Those guys were more about education, location,seasonal movements ect. However, he recent boom in Musky fishing, IMHO, has a lot to do with the relative ease of catching them. Lets face it..."15 year quest for a legal" is a lot more difficult to sell than Jason Hamernick or Luke Ronnestrand's yearly numbers! Those guys had a huge impact on the guys coming up now! They, along with the guys making baits for them(Brad Ruh, Brad(Carrie) Hoppe), showed us just how far we could take this thing! 40 pounders on back to back casts was the stuff of fairy tales 10 years ago...Biggest impact going forward? Probably Jon Bondy! Vertical=the final frontier...maybe! Plenty of the legends are still innovating...Dahlberg with his mad scientist lure laboratory and sound(lateral line) theories...James Linder with patterning and location/movement...and on and on...Plus the guys putting these electronics/maps together...it's straight up cheating! It's a great time to be on the water and I can't wait to see what's next! Edited by Ben Olsen 6/14/2012 6:17 PM | |||
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Posts: 600 | I agree with Jon, God... He created muskies. | ||
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Posts: 173 | Another vote for the post by R K . I suspect there is a different perspective by the younger crowd that watched fishing shows on TV , in color, every week and the older guys that recall busted knuckles from the old style baitcasters, watching fishing films and slide shows at the high school gym for $ 2 presented by a traveling "personality" [ Gaddabout Gaddis anyone? ] , electric trollers with the motor on top , when a 33 HP outboard meant you had the biggest/baddest thing on the water. Don't want to type a book but I sure remember how excited I was to get a Phleuger Supreme and a Shakespere Wonderod . The water world changed with that first Lowrance Green Box. Hard to believe while watching a side scan people thought the flashers were too much technology. | ||
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Posts: 2378 Location: Chisholm, MN | Lindner's movies from way back in the day got me first interested in musky fishing. Maybe they didn't have the biggest impact on the musky scene but they get my vote for getting me into musky fishing. I can also remember one of Bob M's shows just barely that got me really excited as a very young kid. Actually I'm not 100% certain it was him but they were throwing jockpots on a shield lake so I put 2 and 2 together........ Anyway, had dreams about topwater muskies long before I ever even had a chance to fish them. | ||
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Posts: 13688 Location: minocqua, wi. | sworrall - 6/14/2012 5:02 PM Back on topic.... where did that segway come from?? | ||
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Posts: 180 Location: Elgin, IL | When returning home from the Army in the late '80's, I started fishing with my old man. After that all magazines you would see at m place were Fishing Facts and InFisherman. Linders and Petros were what I looked for. Now I get to hang with Spence once in a while and can one learn a lot. But I certainly agree with all, there are many more individuals out there that have had a great connection and influence in this sport. But still to this day Ron, Al and Spence are my influences. Edited by Flo Meister 6/14/2012 10:30 PM | ||
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Posts: 636 Location: Bloomington, MN | Bill Hoeft, Wayne Gutsch, Andy Andel, Tony Rizzo, Russ Smith, Frank Suick, Clarence Bodenhagen, Home LeBlanc, Gale Radtke, Bob Ortiz, Dick Rose, Clayton Slack, Tony Portincaso, Dick Kaminski, Ted Capra, Al Novotny, Art Moraski, Ray Kennedy, Bill Tutt, Joe Erhardt, Bill Crane, and I will even toss in Layton T. "Shep" Shepard the Mepps Muppet. These folks and many more have helped the BIG names shine bright. Edited by Clark A 6/14/2012 10:41 PM | ||
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MuskyMATT7 - 6/14/2012 3:01 PM As a relative newcomer to the sport, the only person I would add to the list is Pete Maina (if someone else has not already). His relation with Bass Pro Shops, Musky Mania Tackle, and The Next Bite has made him a very recognizable figure. I have to add, he also perfected the large minnowbait when he made the 10" Jake. Ummm.....the Jake is named for Jake Satonica who created the Grandma lure which was a perfectly good minnowbait long before the Jake. Pete and Jake S. were working together at the time at Musky Mania came out with the Jake lure. Don't ask me to explain how they came to work together and why they arent now. | |||
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Posts: 1106 Location: Muskegon Michigan | In all of North America including Canada. Will Schultz. You will all know the reason when its announced but Michigan now has the best Musky fishing regulations in the world. Will's work on this has spanned a decade and the victory that will be announced soon will set the musky fishing world on its ear. A great victory has been achieved. Thank you Will. Mike | ||
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Location: 31 | Kingfisher - 6/15/2012 11:04 AM In all of North America including Canada. Will Schultz. You will all know the reason when its announced but Michigan now has the best Musky fishing regulations in the world. Will's work on this has spanned a decade and the victory that will be announced soon will set the musky fishing world on its ear. A great victory has been achieved. Thank you Will. Mike Although Will has done a ton of great things for Michigan muskies, I would still have to give the nod to Gil Hamm for starting MI. | ||
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