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Location: MN | I can't comment on the warranty (whether it should or shouldn't apply) but I do feel it is operator error, as all you have to do is hold the thumb bar down and it can't engage. But warranty is warranty though I guess regardless, if it is so worded. I find that normally if the spool engages during the cast you may get away with it a time or two or even three, but usually I find pieces of the lower part of the pinion gear (I call it the flanges but that's probably not accurate) broken off and laying in there somewhere. It's the first part of the pinion trying to engage the spool shaft pin as it's turning quite rapidly. But if not broken, then the only other thing I can envision that would make the noise or not work right is if the shaft pin is bent, or the teeth on the pinion clashed with the teeth on the drive gear and rolled them over a bit. |
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| I opened up the S for the first time trying to get the casting distance and braking dialed for the GF and was surprised there wasnt and adjustable magnets inside. You can dial the beast for anything. |
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Location: Central Wisconsin | sworrall - 10/21/2015 2:02 PM
Why are you being so difficult? People are trying to help and you just continue to be rude.
The Beast is smoother, has a far superior drag when and if you catch a big girl, is more comfortable to fish with, will be a better reel after two or three season's hard use, ...etc. I'll trade you an NACL in great shape and $100 for it.
Geez.
2nd that. I have had nothing but good things with my beast. The cranking power of the HG is so nice. |
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Location: Aurora | Do the Toro S & Beast's levelwinds disengage when casting?
I'm hoping they stay engaged but couldn't find any info. |
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| from what ive read they disengage do to haveing a narrowspool |
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| They definitely disengage |
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| Sidejack - 10/28/2015 9:19 PM
Do the Toro S & Beast's levelwinds disengage when casting?
I'm hoping they stay engaged but couldn't find any info.
The level wind dis-engages when casting similarly to a Tranx or Lexa. Having a more narrow spool and a "stretched" distance between the Line Guide and spool makes it unnecessary to have the LW engaged. It actually improves casting distance. |
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| Def disengaging but still out casts the NACL and no line stacking issues. It is a non issue. |
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| Looks like there is a 3rd option within this line of reels:
http://www.purefishing.jp/product/bc/revo_bigshooter_wm60_wm60.html
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| I would have guessed without translating that it's a jigging model but the paddle handle is stumping me. |
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| The individual in the video appears to be casting. Braking seems similar to the S/Toro as well. Ordered one earlier today, so I'll know once it arrives. Pricing falls in between the S and Beast, but more towards the S's pricing. |
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| What's the gearing, line p/u? |
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Location: MN | Looks like 7.6:1 and 34 |
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| 7.6:1 retrieve and looks like around 42" IPT (107cm). I know no more than this, but am curious.  |
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| With a smaller spool than the tranx that 42" will feel like winching a boat throwing anything but a glider IMO.
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Location: Hayward, WI | 42 inches is 42 inches, whether you get there by a high gear ratio or a big spool. The work needed to be done is the same. How easy or hard it feels will mostly boil down to handle length and maybe to a small degree, reel efficiency.
42 is faster than I need or want though. I'll be tempted to get the 34" Beast for next year, or get the S and swap the gears out for the 34" gears. |
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| cave run legend - 10/30/2015 9:12 AM
With a smaller spool than the tranx that 42" will feel like winching a boat throwing anything but a glider IMO.
There are a lot of Saltwater applications where the lures don't generate as much resistance as D10s etc. and faster line pickup is more ideal. Sometimes the lures are very small, but moved very quickly. The ideal popping reel for SW use is a Stella or Saltist with 59" IPT.
Note that in the video linked above that it is being used in SW. |
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| igl00jx - 10/29/2015 12:45 PM
The individual in the video appears to be casting. Braking seems similar to the S/Toro as well. Ordered one earlier today, so I'll know once it arrives. Pricing falls in between the S and Beast, but more towards the S's pricing.
Braking looks more like the Beast. The S doest not have the adjustable brakes inside the housing just the dial. |
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| ^^^good to know. Thanks |
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| the reel that you see in the video is practically almost a revo Toro Beast with a 7.6:1 ratio
with 6/1 bearings , 42'' retrieve , 10 kg ( 22 lb ) power drag with a capacity of max 120 m of PE8 ( +/- 80/100lb braided line) and max 144 m of 0.47 mm of nylon line.
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| esoxone - 11/1/2015 8:44 PM
the reel that you see in the video is practically almost a revo Toro Beast with a 7.6:1 ratio
with 6/1 bearings , 42'' retrieve , 10 kg ( 22 lb ) power drag with a capacity of max 120 m of PE8 ( +/- 80/100lb braided line) and max 144 m of 0.47 mm of nylon line.
Can u translate that into English? kdawg |
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| kdawg - 11/2/2015 11:05 AM
esoxone - 11/1/2015 8:44 PM
the reel that you see in the video is practically almost a revo Toro Beast with a 7.6:1 ratio
with 6/1 bearings , 42'' retrieve , 10 kg ( 22 lb ) power drag with a capacity of max 120 m of PE8 ( +/- 80/100lb braided line) and max 144 m of 0.47 mm of nylon line.
Can u translate that into English? kdawg
I used an online translator Japanese / English.
I thought that the features were clear.No problem : I write them again.
Features :
Gear Ratio : 7.6:1
Retrieve Rate IPT : 42''
Ball Bearings : 6
Roller Bearing : 1
Max Drag lb : 22 lb
Mono Capacity yd/lb : 157/30
Braided Capacity yd/lb : 130/80
esoxone
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| So less bearings less drag and less line capacity then the beast 60 but faster IPT. |
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| achotrod - 11/3/2015 11:17 AM
So less bearings less drag and less line capacity then the beast 60 but faster IPT.
Yes
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| The Big Shooter came in today. Much larger than anticipated, but still palmable with my small hands. About the width of a 50 size of the outgoing model, but taller.
Haven't had a chance to use it yet, but will chase skis tomorrow.
http://i.imgur.com/wZ6OFnKl.jpg |
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| Looks the same size as a 60 Beast. Im guessing you could change out the gears if the 7.6 ratio is not ideal for you. That reel would look pretty good on a new Legend Elite rod! |
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Location: Madison, WI | Changing the handle sure is a pain on these holy cow |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Wasn't a big deal for me.... |
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| Really? You need a screwdriver and a 10mm wrench. I think its easier then most reels with a locking tab. |
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| igl00jx - 11/6/2015 6:55 PM
The Big Shooter came in today. Much larger than anticipated, but still palmable with my small hands. About the width of a 50 size of the outgoing model, but taller.
Haven't had a chance to use it yet, but will chase skis tomorrow.
http://i.imgur.com/wZ6OFnKl.jpg
awesome. let us know how you do!
For a little more information about the Big Shooter though it shares some features with the beast (ie Ti Ni line guide) it does not have the Active Response Drag innovation seen in the Toro Beast that allows you to decrease drag setting under load. |
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