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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Propster - 6/21/2015 2:03 PM
Interesting when talking about the second reel, the Ambassador Beast, he comes right out and says it is based on the previous Rocket reel
That doesn't mean the guts are the same. They are not.
We were at the Berkley Summit last week for 4 days, went through all the new Pure Fishing gear for 2016 and picked up some samples. |
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| Some more toro news:
http://www.eu.purefishing.com/blogs/de/dirksabugarciablog/2015/06/2...
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| My Swedish is a bit rusty but it looks like they will have 4.9:1 and a 6.3:1 gear ratios available. Wonder what the line/turn will be? I love the NaCl and already pumped for this one. They also made a comment about the thumb bar in the video so hopefully they fixed that issue with the NaCl. |
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| Steve - how would you describe the dimensions of this vs the comparable NaCl? Longer? Taller? Shorter? The Toro's never fit my hand quite right vs the Lexa 400. Hoping they gave a bigger side plate to grab on to?
Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oeXVy2hIxU
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Now the cat is out of the bag! Recently the upcoming Revo Toro Beast has already won the EFTTEX award for best new multi-role, now I can tell you already imagine the new Toro Series 2016 in detail. The Revo Toro will be released at the end of the Beast and as Toro Toro S. All technical specifications can be found again listed below in the article.
The new Toros will be available as a 50's and 60 models and the Beast Toro also each again as high-speed variant of all sizes! The Toro Beast are 2 additional winches, at the Toros a suitable size for each role. The new Toro has become considerably flatter, slightly narrower and has been revised in many details. The thumb button has been completely redesigned and is now very smooth. The new construction, the casting performance and load with large baits has been optimized. The Toro Beast has a combined magnetic centrifugal brake and the Toro S via a purely magnetic brake. The braking power is now at 25 kg, which is an announcement!
The new Toro series is probably an absolutely worthy successor and Wurd improved in many details. Obviously, Abu Garcia has also adopted the few criticisms and those eliminated in the new generation. The new Toro represents a significant stage of development and all Bigbaitangler will probably hardly wait to show the end already.
Abu Garcia Revo Toro Beast:
flatter low-profile housing than its predecessor
same high line capacity as its predecessor
Brake power up to 25kg
revised thumb button
all models, it is a 4.9: 1 Normal translation and a 6.2: 1 provide high-speed
7 saltwater resistant and stainless HPCR ball bearings + 1 roller bearing made of stainless steel
Carbon Matrix brake
Special coil of aerospace aluminum
stainless frame and side panels made of X-Cräftic Aluminum
durable Duragear brass gear
InfiniMax Breaking System for almost stepless settings
bent crank with large EVA knobs
contain additional power a crank and a casting powerhandle
TI-coated line guide
Abu Garcia Revo Toro S:
flatter low-profile housing than its predecessor
same high line capacity as its predecessor
Brake power up to 25kg
revised thumb button
5.3: 1 ratio
4 saltwater resistant and stainless HPCR ball bearings + 1 roller bearing made of stainless steel
Carbon Matrix brake
Special coil of aerospace aluminum
stainless frame and side panels made of X-Cräftic Aluminum
durable Duragear brass gear
MagTrax Breaking System for constant braking performance
bent crank with large EVA knobs
In addition, a power crank in the 50 size
additional casting power crank in the 60 size
TI-coated line guide
Here you can see even a video of the EFTTEX in Warsaw - Christer Nilsson of Sweden, the Abu Revo Toro Beast before: |
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Location: Wisconsin | Good that they added the counter weight on the power handle. Solves the engaging issue..... |
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Location: Merrill, Wisconsin | ^^^ Agreed. Im super excited.. But a little nervous to spend that kind of money.. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | TheYoungGun_ - 6/23/2015 9:58 PM
^^^ Agreed. Im super excited.. But a little nervous to spend that kind of money..
I haven't heard a specific price on these yet. I thought Steve said something about $280, which is the same price as the current Revo Toro.
Have any price rumors been leaked yet? Also looks like the regular Revo Toro might be turning white?
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Location: Waukee, IA | From what he hinted at I assume the Revo Toro S will be around $280. I would imagine the Toro Beast to be around $350-$400, but that's speculation. |
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| http://www.angling-international.com/efttex-nominee/abu-garcia-revo...
here it says 300 € ( about $ 335 actual change )
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| That is one sexy reel. Need it in my life! |
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| I asked about the new reel back at the MKE show and was handed this one.. Not really sure what it is.. (pic in attachment)
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| Looks like a prototype Toro Beast to me. |
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| So there's going to be 2 different models,the S,and the Beast. The cheaper S will have the standard 5.3: 1 ratio and the more expensive Beast will have a slower 4.9:1 and a 6.2 high speed ratio. I'm not sure I'd like a 4.9 over the 5.3. that's almost a winch at 4.9. Hmmmmm. Wonder how the 4.9 will stack up to the Tranx 4.6 power gear
? Wish someone,Steve, had some real world experience on them.
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Location: MN | ^^ If they make the gear and spool big enough to significantly increase the IPT then yes 4.9 may be just right. I'll see it when I believe it. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I ran an S all day today and absolutely love it. One of the nicest reels I have ever used, and I got one on it today on a Violent Strike Number 8.
I ran Violent Strike double 10s today with the outfit. No issues.
The rod rocks, too.
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| Have you used the 2 ratios of the Beast? |
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Location: Waconia,MN | What rod? Is abu coming out with a new rod as well? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Rod. Did I say rod?  |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | KSauers - 6/30/2015 9:22 AM
Have you used the 2 ratios of the Beast?
yes. |
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Location: OP. Kansas | Steve, You hinted at new rods in an earlier post. Any 2 piece for flyins?
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| Steve what about Toro Beast? Better than NaCl? Im still thinking about reel for my swimbaits but I dont know If I should pick NaCl or wait for Toro Beast.. |
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| sworrall - 6/30/2015 4:04 PM
KSauers - 6/30/2015 9:22 AM
Have you used the 2 ratios of the Beast?
yes.
So tight lipped. LOL. I know you probably can't say much yet, but you know how we are when an intriguing new product is going to come out. We want to suck up all the info we can get hoping it will be "the reel".
Did you test the 2 gear ratios sufficiently to get a feel for what their best their best applications would be? And what are they in your humble opinion?
The white S looks cool. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The high speed Beast is an animal. Keith fished the prototype at AML for a few days and back home, and has one now. Great line pick up and built like a tank. Glassy smooth. I tossed the lower speed reel a few times and it felt the same...just a less line pick up.
The S is perfect for what I do. I'll own a couple.
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Location: Lake St.Clair | The 34" on the beast and the 29" on the s is gonna be nice. Those venerate rods look sick also. |
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Location: Western U.P. | ToothTamer - 7/1/2015 12:31 AM
Those venerate rods look sick also.
Care to share some info about these rods with the rest of the class? |
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| Any new informations about the Toro Beast guys? |
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| Looks like Abu Garcia's Website as the Revo Toro beast up:
http://www.abugarcia.com/abugarcia-reels-baitcast-reels-low-profile...
The 60 HS - 6.2:1 has a line pick up of 34
The 60 - 4.9:1 has a line pick up of 27
Both are listed at $399 and available on 9/9/15
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Location: Western U.P. | I see the NaCl 50 5.4 model and the lefty models were dropped. We might see the end of the NaCl line in the next year or 2. The Revo Toro's were phased out a few years ago in a similar way.
Some interesting looking new rods on the AG website also. |
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| Attached is breakdown that goes into IPT, bearings, drag, weight, braking, and price. It covers Abu, Shimano, and Daiwa. My favorite reel currently is a Lexa 400H, but I would like Abu quality (no flame wars).
Three of these are really interesting:
Toro Beast HS (50 and 60) - I'll have to hold it with that price delta
Toro S 60
Correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't held it, but this ambassadeur beast seems like a novelty item. $400 for a 6500 size reel with 24 IPT? Especially next to NaCl 60, Toro S 50, and Toro Winch.
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Location: NorthCentral WI | Cedar - 7/13/2015 3:58 PM
Some interesting looking new rods on the AG website also.
The Fantasista Beast rods look pretty nice and go out to 10'1" |
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