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Location: Minnesota | Next you will have your Butler reel the fish in for you |
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| Ooooohhh how about a Stihl MS290 that's had the bar swapped for a spool?
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Location: MN | A lot of people in here talk that the tranx both picks up line fast and is easy to reel. Isn't the torque on the shaft determined entirely by pickup per turn (minus internal friction)? That would mean it's basically just the handle of the reel that makes it feel easy to pull in. Why not just put a big handle on another reel with the same IPT? Is the internal friction of other reels just that much higher that you need to crank a lot harder? |
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| nar160 - 4/21/2014 9:29 PM
A lot of people in here talk that the tranx both picks up line fast and is easy to reel. Isn't the torque on the shaft determined entirely by pickup per turn (minus internal friction)? That would mean it's basically just the handle of the reel that makes it feel easy to pull in. Why not just put a big handle on another reel with the same IPT? Is the internal friction of other reels just that much higher that you need to crank a lot harder?
True. Then it comes down to whether or not the internals are up to the task. Saltist internals definitely are, they just don't have the casting bells and whistles that the Tranx does. And they are fantastic bells and whistles. |
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| All Ill say is there is more tension on the rod than the reel with a 8ft XH premier then on a NACL 60 5.4 with the power handle throwing 10s. The 50 6.4 with the reg handle takes 100% more effort and same with a Curado 300. Spend 10+ hours in the last couple days testing them. I do admire the Tranx for speed but the the NACL 5.4 with the power handle works great for pulling 10s. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | do you want to catch fish or just pull your 10s in slow w ease? if you want the 1st one then get a tranx....have seen it many times where guys w the "slow" reels weren't getting the hits/follows but those of us w speed reels were.... |
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| BNelson - 4/22/2014 8:05 AM
do you want to catch fish or just pull your 10s in with slow w ease? if you want the 1st one then get a tranx....have seen it many times where guys w the "slow" reels weren't getting the hits/follows but those of us w speed reels were....
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| The next phase of "hot" trends in Muskie fishing is merging, it involves speed, but you don't need saltwater equipment to make it happen. People are just being a bit more quiet about it this time;-) |
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Location: Quebec, Canada | BNelson - 4/22/2014 9:05 AM
do you want to catch fish or just pull your 10s in slow w ease? if you want the 1st one then get a tranx....have seen it many times where guys w the "slow" reels weren't getting the hits/follows but those of us w speed reels were....
I've been fishing 10s with my partner for two years. I had a 400B and him a 300E and the speed prove to make a huge difference... we'll see next year with my newly bought tranx who's gonna have the upper hand! |
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| BNelson - 4/22/2014 9:05 AM
do you want to catch fish or just pull your 10s in slow w ease? if you want the 1st one then get a tranx....have seen it many times where guys w the "slow" reels weren't getting the hits/follows but those of us w speed reels were....
So you must be referring to the HG model then? If so, with the high ratio the "easy" part must be diminished quite a bit? Making the effort comparable to the Nacl but with way more speed?
The PG is 30 inches my calcutta is 28, I would find it hard to believe that 2 inches is making the difference between getting bit and not. The calcutta is pretty effortless, and I have to keep my tip down or the blades blow out, in the end the ease of use again is diminished, easier to reel sure, but now its harder to hold the rod because you cant point straight at the bait. |
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Location: Aurora | Lunger50 - 4/22/2014 4:10 PM
BNelson - 4/22/2014 9:05 AM
do you want to catch fish or just pull your 10s in slow w ease? if you want the 1st one then get a tranx....have seen it many times where guys w the "slow" reels weren't getting the hits/follows but those of us w speed reels were....
So you must be referring to the HG model then? If so, with the high ratio the "easy" part must be diminished quite a bit? Making the effort comparable to the Nacl but with way more speed?
The PG is 30 inches my calcutta is 28, I would find it hard to believe that 2 inches is making the difference between getting bit and not. The calcutta is pretty effortless, and I have to keep my tip down or the blades blow out, in the end the ease of use again is diminished, easier to reel sure, but now its harder to hold the rod because you cant point straight at the bait.
Effort is significantly diminished with the increase in gear size from Tranx to Revo.
Apparently, the smaller teeth make it stronger (more teeth engaged) and smoother as well.
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Location: Contrarian Island | it's not all about inches per crank... go out and stand next to a guy w a tranx hg or even pg for that matter, cast a double 10 at the same time and distance and crank them in with 'normal' pressure (not overexerting yourself) and see who gets their bucktail to the boat faster....for the doubters out there that don't believe speed can mean the difference between a bite and no bite, fine, let others catch the fish,,,,yah,...don't believe all the guides in this thread and good fishermen telling you otherwise...  more for us to catch... it's that simple. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Sidejack - 4/22/2014 11:44 PM
Lunger50 - 4/22/2014 4:10 PM
BNelson - 4/22/2014 9:05 AM
do you want to catch fish or just pull your 10s in slow w ease? if you want the 1st one then get a tranx....have seen it many times where guys w the "slow" reels weren't getting the hits/follows but those of us w speed reels were....
So you must be referring to the HG model then? If so, with the high ratio the "easy" part must be diminished quite a bit? Making the effort comparable to the Nacl but with way more speed?
The PG is 30 inches my calcutta is 28, I would find it hard to believe that 2 inches is making the difference between getting bit and not. The calcutta is pretty effortless, and I have to keep my tip down or the blades blow out, in the end the ease of use again is diminished, easier to reel sure, but now its harder to hold the rod because you cant point straight at the bait.
Effort is significantly diminished with the increase in gear size from Tranx to Revo.
Apparently, the smaller teeth make it stronger (more teeth engaged ) and smoother as well.
YES with the size of the gearing and the MICRO GEARING the Tranx will have so much more power then any Toro.
With the MICRO GEARING the pinion has maybe 4-5 teeth touching the main gear as with a Toro gearing maybe 2-3 so the load is spread out over more teeth of the gears which will give U MORE POWER and SMOOTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Toro is a GREAT REEL but in the same league as a TRANX.
Plus look at the Super Size Carbontex Drag washers.
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Lunger50 - 4/22/2014 4:10 PM
BNelson - 4/22/2014 9:05 AM
do you want to catch fish or just pull your 10s in slow w ease? if you want the 1st one then get a tranx....have seen it many times where guys w the "slow" reels weren't getting the hits/follows but those of us w speed reels were....
So you must be referring to the HG model then? If so, with the high ratio the "easy" part must be diminished quite a bit? Making the effort comparable to the Nacl but with way more speed?
The PG is 30 inches my calcutta is 28, I would find it hard to believe that 2 inches is making the difference between getting bit and not. The calcutta is pretty effortless, and I have to keep my tip down or the blades blow out, in the end the ease of use again is diminished, easier to reel sure, but now its harder to hold the rod because you cant point straight at the bait.
OK then look at this way, say your reel has 28" of line pickup on a 150 foot cast you will turn the handle 66.6 times appox to bring in a lure. Now you have a reel with 30" of line pickup, on the same 150 foot cast you will turn the handle 60 times, 6.6 times less, so a a 1000 cast day the 28" reel U will turn the handle 66,600 times in a day and the 30" reel 60,000, 6,600 less. 2" is a big DEAL after a long day out on the water. |
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| I like the fact that it's a 500 size, and would not trade it for a 400 size, we use really thick line, so on a long cast with the smaller reel, the diameter of the spool i dramatically decreased, this is not the case on the big spool of the tranx. |
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| PIKEMASTER - 4/23/2014 11:22 AM
Lunger50 - 4/22/2014 4:10 PM
BNelson - 4/22/2014 9:05 AM
do you want to catch fish or just pull your 10s in slow w ease? if you want the 1st one then get a tranx....have seen it many times where guys w the "slow" reels weren't getting the hits/follows but those of us w speed reels were....
So you must be referring to the HG model then? If so, with the high ratio the "easy" part must be diminished quite a bit? Making the effort comparable to the Nacl but with way more speed?
The PG is 30 inches my calcutta is 28, I would find it hard to believe that 2 inches is making the difference between getting bit and not. The calcutta is pretty effortless, and I have to keep my tip down or the blades blow out, in the end the ease of use again is diminished, easier to reel sure, but now its harder to hold the rod because you cant point straight at the bait.
OK then look at this way, say your reel has 28" of line pickup on a 150 foot cast you will turn the handle 66.6 times appox to bring in a lure. Now you have a reel with 30" of line pickup, on the same 150 foot cast you will turn the handle 60 times, 6.6 times less, so a a 1000 cast day the 28" reel U will turn the handle 66,600 times in a day and the 30" reel 60,000, 6,600 less. 2" is a big DEAL after a long day out on the water.
If you are blowing your blades out of the water with a Calcutta, then what you need to do is throw heavier bucktails and buy a tranx pg. Cowgirls are only 2.8 ounces while Dadson Musky Bullets are 4 oz. Buy some Dadson's. I bet you won't be blowing them out of the water with a Calcutta.
It's simple, tranx's are the absolute best reels out there. You can debate all day long on whether they are "worth it" for the price. For some people, if it puts 1 or 2 extra fish in the boat per season its worth it, and for others it's not. And by the way, the tranx PG gets 31 inches per turn |
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| bcram555 - 4/23/2014 1:17 PM
PIKEMASTER - 4/23/2014 11:22 AM
Lunger50 - 4/22/2014 4:10 PM
BNelson - 4/22/2014 9:05 AM
do you want to catch fish or just pull your 10s in slow w ease? if you want the 1st one then get a tranx....have seen it many times where guys w the "slow" reels weren't getting the hits/follows but those of us w speed reels were....
So you must be referring to the HG model then? If so, with the high ratio the "easy" part must be diminished quite a bit? Making the effort comparable to the Nacl but with way more speed?
The PG is 30 inches my calcutta is 28, I would find it hard to believe that 2 inches is making the difference between getting bit and not. The calcutta is pretty effortless, and I have to keep my tip down or the blades blow out, in the end the ease of use again is diminished, easier to reel sure, but now its harder to hold the rod because you cant point straight at the bait.
OK then look at this way, say your reel has 28" of line pickup on a 150 foot cast you will turn the handle 66.6 times appox to bring in a lure. Now you have a reel with 30" of line pickup, on the same 150 foot cast you will turn the handle 60 times, 6.6 times less, so a a 1000 cast day the 28" reel U will turn the handle 66,600 times in a day and the 30" reel 60,000, 6,600 less. 2" is a big DEAL after a long day out on the water.
If you are blowing your blades out of the water with a Calcutta, then what you need to do is throw heavier bucktails and buy a tranx pg. Cowgirls are only 2.8 ounces while Dadson Musky Bullets are 4 oz. Buy some Dadson's. I bet you won't be blowing them out of the water with a Calcutta.
It's simple, tranx's are the absolute best reels out there. You can debate all day long on whether they are "worth it" for the price. For some people, if it puts 1 or 2 extra fish in the boat per season its worth it, and for others it's not. And by the way, the tranx PG gets 31 inches per turn
Thanks. I throw all kinds of 10's, many of them heavily weighted. You still blow them out if you don't keep your rod tip down. In essence you are simply transferring the force, now instead of it being on your cranking arm its the arm holding the rod taking the brunt.
I certainly agree that speed = more fish at times. I was simply asking that you must be referring to the HG because I doubt that difference of 2 inches or .0001 mph makes any difference.
I also have little doubt the Tranx is a fantastic reel, just not sure they are that much more fantastic for their inflated price. If I spent a year in the boat, buddy with the PG and me with my Calcutta and he SIGNIFICANTLY out fished me I would likely buy one. |
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Model Line Retrieve Per Crank (in) Hollow Ace Line Capacity (#Test/Yds) PowerPro Line Capacity (#Test/yd) Mono Line Capacity (#Test/yd) Max Drag (lb) S A-RB Ball Bearings Roller Bearings Gear Ratio Weight (oz)
TRX500HG 43 40/350, 60/275,80/260 50/420, 65/270,80/210 30/160,40/120, 50/100 25 7 1 6.6:1 20.0
TRX500PG 30 40/350, 60/275,80/260 50/420, 65/270,80/210 30/160, 40/120,50/100 25 7 1 4.6:1 20.0
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| Buy a Tranx, throw it for a month. If you don't like it, ill buy it from you. I could use a 3rd. They are worth it in every area.
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| First, I have not tried a Tranx, but plan to get one next year based on the reputation alone. Another aspect I like about the Tranx is the line pickup on the PG is the dame as the Toros and NaCl 6:4:1, which I currently use for jerkbaits. However, when you are talking about fatigue you need to factor in how much the extra 9.5 to 10 ounces of weight adds to your fatigue. Also, not everyone can comfortably palm one, if that's how they grip the rod. That said, I may go ahead and get one this year since Timmy is offering this guarantee! |
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| ARmuskyaddict - 4/23/2014 6:04 PM
First, I have not tried a Tranx, but plan to get one next year based on the reputation alone. Another aspect I like about the Tranx is the line pickup on the PG is the dame as the Toros and NaCl 6:4:1, which I currently use for jerkbaits. However, when you are talking about fatigue you need to factor in how much the extra 9.5 to 10 ounces of weight adds to your fatigue. Also, not everyone can comfortably palm one, if that's how they grip the rod. That said, I may go ahead and get one this year since Timmy is offering this guarantee!
You won't notice that extra weight once you start reeling those double 10's in.
*Coming from a 25 year old guy* |
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Location: Duluth, MN | Are people using the HG or PG for 10's and 13's? |
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| I used the HG with a powerhandle, for 10s and it's not that bad, but if i used 10s all day everyday i would go with a PG. I mainly throw rubber/cranks/suicks. |
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| PG for 10's and bigger |
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Location: Contrarian Island | i use the HG all day...used it last 2 seasons most days... used it in LOTW for 7 days straight, no issues... eat your wheaties and get the HG.. |
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Location: Minnesota | Use the PG for blades HG for big rubber |
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Location: Contrarian Island | why? HG works awesome and brings blades in faster... ?! but what do i know... ! |
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| I also use the PG for blades and the HG for rubber. I like the power of the PG...and if I feel the need to go fast...I just turn my hand faster to get where I want to be. I sure do like the ease of big blades with the PG. Feels like I'm using a beetle spin  Also, come night time, it allows me to slow roll much more effectively...in my opinion the HG is going to be to fast for what I like to do at night. But everyone is different. |
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Location: Minnesota | the PG at 30 inches per turn is still faster then most reels out there plus it has the power. but that's just me just because I like it means nothing. I buy what I like . buy what works for you |
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Location: Duluth, MN | I also run the PG for blades, like mentioned above, gives me the ability to slow down at night with the same set up.
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