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| FYGR8 - 2/27/2014 4:51 PM
, even though there hasn't been a legitimate musky caught from the Hayward area over 48 and a half-pounds since the 1939 to 1949 rash of four false area record claims were made!
Was Jerry Nelson's 48 1/2 # fish in 1993 from Round Lake not real? I saw it and it sure looked that big. Just curious if there was any false claims to that one?
It says over 48.5 lbs... |
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| Plenty of big fish to be had in Hayward. You just have to know how/where/when to fish them. Kieper and I discussed at the Milwaukee show this year how he's had over 100 fish over 50 in the boat from our area in the last decade. A couple over 45 lbs. Last year was a tough year in Wisconsin due to late ice out and the yo-yo weather patterns but we still managed to put some really nice fish in the boat. Hayward's definitely tougher to get the big fish than Green Bay or St. Clair but look at where you're fishing. Who wants to be surrounded by buildings/traffic and piles of people when you're fishing muskies? Yeah you've got a better shot at stickin a hawg on those bodies of water but is that really all musky fishing is about?
Here's a nice Hayward fish we got last October:
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| Michah thats a friggen slob!! And Keiper has the footage to back it up! Lite a fire under his butt for me to get Small Pond Monsters 2 out!!!! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Footnote:
No matter what side of the World Record issue you are on, this battle is an old one. John Dettloff will be talking about the World Record Muskies this weekend at the Wisconsin Muskie Show, if you want to hear his perspective 'live', visit the show and take in his seminar. |
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| I'm sure there are 45-50 Lb fish in the Hayward area.. muskies get that big  |
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Location: Richland Center, WI. | sworrall - 2/27/2014 5:59 PM
Footnote:
No matter what side of the World Record issue you are on, this battle is an old one. John Dettloff will be talking about the World Record Muskies this weekend at the Wisconsin Muskie Show, if you want to hear his perspective 'live', visit the show and take in his seminar.
And here I thought it was a coincidence that Larry brought this up now. Guess he is helping to put butts in the seats for John's seminar. Brilliant! 
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | I believe that a guy boated a 59" Slob out of Vermilion Dam Lodge about 4 -5 yrs ago while Trolling (Released) ...I saw the pics, so it must be true..
There ARE 60" fish out there.... And some may be caught this Season.... |
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| BenR - 2/27/2014 4:56 PM
FYGR8 - 2/27/2014 4:51 PM
, even though there hasn't been a legitimate musky caught from the Hayward area over 48 and a half-pounds since the 1939 to 1949 rash of four false area record claims were made!
Was Jerry Nelson's 48 1/2 # fish in 1993 from Round Lake not real? I saw it and it sure looked that big. Just curious if there was any false claims to that one?
It says over 48.5 lbs...
It says SINCE the 1939 to 1949 rash. I am talking 1993. |
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| Read it again, has not been one OVER 48.5.... |
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Come on Micah, everybody knows there aren't any big fish in the Hayward area. Shhhhhh...
Langkamp's Guide Svc - 2/27/2014 5:16 PM
Plenty of big fish to be had in Hayward. |
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| Mr Musky - 2/27/2014 5:47 PM
Michah thats a friggen slob!! And Keiper has the footage to back it up! Lite a fire under his butt for me to get Small Pond Monsters 2 out!!!!
Thanks. Last time we spoke he told me he's got the footage & just needs the time to piece it all together. |
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| To be frank, I thought the article was lousy. Larry, why is this so important to you? I don't care what the record is, or who caught it. Maybe I'm the only one. |
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Location: central Wisconsin | fishingfrenzy - 2/28/2014 5:34 AM
To be frank, I thought the article was lousy. Larry, why is this so important to you? I don't care what the record is, or who caught it. Maybe I'm the only one.
You are not the only one. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Jeff78 - 2/28/2014 7:30 AM
fishingfrenzy - 2/28/2014 5:34 AM
To be frank, I thought the article was lousy. Larry, why is this so important to you? I don't care what the record is, or who caught it. Maybe I'm the only one.
You are not the only one.
Same here. And I am especially not at all interested in the "me versus him" aspect of the debunking of old records that have been wholely discredited years ago. It becomes a soap opera of grumpy old men slinging limp arrows at each other. |
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Location: Not where I want to be! | fishingfrenzy - 2/28/2014 5:34 AM To be frank, I thought the article was lousy. Larry, why is this so important to you? I don't care what the record is, or who caught it. Maybe I'm the only one. Really Larry! I personally could care less who caught it, where, or the size of the world record!! It's possible that most seasoned anglers really could care less. I fish for muskies for the excitement and enjoyment of the hunt. Why don't we lower the record to say 25# and then we can all leapfrog for the next year to 50# Then let the bickering begin. Who cares. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | Those of you who aren't interested in the "record" stats ok, but a lot of other people seemed to enjoy reading it. World record
musky information seems relevant to me on a "musky" forum website.
Edited by Fishen-ski's 2/28/2014 8:31 AM
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Location: central Wisconsin | Fishen-ski's - 2/28/2014 8:21 AM
Those of you who aren't interested in the "record" stats ok, but a lot of other people seemed to enjoy reading it. World record
musky information seems relevant to me on a "musky" forum website.
I do care about the record, when I was a much younger man starting out musky fishing I would drag my family to Hayward to go to the Mocassin Bar to look at Cal Johnson's fish thinking someday.
As time went on and Lawton got discredited and Spray and all the others it just didn't seem that important to me anymore. It was a different time.
Most people accept that these people lied and or exaggurated to collect on a $50 prize. Whats done is done, people in the know are trying to establish a new record. It does not have to be rehashed every winter. |
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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world | History is written by the ones that won the wars. Dettloff won the war.
Thank you for posting this.
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| I thought the spring conservation congress voted on the records? |
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| rjhyland - 2/28/2014 9:22 AM
History is written by the ones that won the wars. Dettloff won the war.
Thank you for posting this.
Ron.
I don't see that at all, most people realize the records are a joke. Terrible legacy he is creating for himself. Who wants to be know like that? BR |
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Amen Slamr !
Slamr - 2/28/2014 8:05 AM
Jeff78 - 2/28/2014 7:30 AM
fishingfrenzy - 2/28/2014 5:34 AM
To be frank, I thought the article was lousy. Larry, why is this so important to you? I don't care what the record is, or who caught it. Maybe I'm the only one.
You are not the only one.
Same here. And I am especially not at all interested in the "me versus him" aspect of the debunking of old records that have been wholely discredited years ago. It becomes a soap opera of grumpy old men slinging limp arrows at each other. |
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| dfkiii - 2/28/2014 9:39 AM
Amen Slamr !
Slamr - 2/28/2014 8:05 AM
Jeff78 - 2/28/2014 7:30 AM
fishingfrenzy - 2/28/2014 5:34 AM
To be frank, I thought the article was lousy. Larry, why is this so important to you? I don't care what the record is, or who caught it. Maybe I'm the only one.
You are not the only one.
Same here. And I am especially not at all interested in the "me versus him" aspect of the debunking of old records that have been wholely discredited years ago. It becomes a soap opera of grumpy old men slinging limp arrows at each other.
Yes, that goes without saying, but all that stuff aside, it is super silly to still promote these fish as real. It is like teaching the earth is flat. BR |
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Location: Richland Center, WI. | BenR - 2/28/2014 9:49 AM
dfkiii - 2/28/2014 9:39 AM
Amen Slamr !
Slamr - 2/28/2014 8:05 AM
Jeff78 - 2/28/2014 7:30 AM
fishingfrenzy - 2/28/2014 5:34 AM
To be frank, I thought the article was lousy. Larry, why is this so important to you? I don't care what the record is, or who caught it. Maybe I'm the only one.
You are not the only one.
Same here. And I am especially not at all interested in the "me versus him" aspect of the debunking of old records that have been wholely discredited years ago. It becomes a soap opera of grumpy old men slinging limp arrows at each other.
Yes, that goes without saying, but all that stuff aside, it is super silly to still promote these fish as real. It is like teaching the earth is flat. BR
So maybe go out and promote the fish you think are real, the one the new record organization recognizes. To continue to bash the old records, Hayward and Dettloff get's a little old after a while! |
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| Ah, heck. Hayward promoting dubious world records is fine by me. Anyone who's looked objectively at the evidence knows that the records are false...but towns can and should promote whatever claim to fame might happen to be....Elmwood, WI has its "UFO Days", after all. Maybe we should sponsor a study to disprove those extra-terrestrial sightings in Elmwood so that Elmwood is also not "teaching that the world is flat", so to speak. |
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| Hayward area kicks out some serious hogs. I will visit again at some point, I love that area and the truth is it has some great low pressure scenic musky fishing with the chance at some top tier fish.
Small pond monsters 2? Yeah I'd buy that. First one was a great watch.
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| Matt DeVos - 2/28/2014 9:58 AM
Ah, heck. Hayward promoting dubious world records is fine by me. Anyone who's looked objectively at the evidence knows that the records are false...but towns can and should promote whatever claim to fame might happen to be....Elmwood, WI has its "UFO Days", after all. Maybe we should sponsor a study to disprove those extra-terrestrial sightings in Elmwood so that Elmwood is also not "teaching that the world is flat", so to speak. :)
You can actually make a legitimate case for UFO's, so you are really comparing apples to oranges:-) |
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Location: Wisconsin | musky-skunk - 2/28/2014 9:59 AM
Small pond monsters 2? Yeah I'd buy that. First one was a great watch.
In my best raspy voice " We are here in Northern Wisconsin......"
The first one is a great DVD, it is a lot of fun to watch, especially when you are in Hayward viewing it knowing that come sunrise you will be on the water trying to catch one !! Hope he releases #2.
Micah, awesome fish, that pic is sweet, and don't worry I won't name the spot!!
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| BenR - 2/28/2014 10:05 AM
Matt DeVos - 2/28/2014 9:58 AM
Ah, heck. Hayward promoting dubious world records is fine by me. Anyone who's looked objectively at the evidence knows that the records are false...but towns can and should promote whatever claim to fame might happen to be....Elmwood, WI has its "UFO Days", after all. Maybe we should sponsor a study to disprove those extra-terrestrial sightings in Elmwood so that Elmwood is also not "teaching that the world is flat", so to speak. :)
You can actually make a legitimate case for UFO's, so you are really comparing apples to oranges:- )
But Ben, how do we know for sure that the people of Elmwood have been truthful about their sightings? Is it just a big conspiracy to draw in tourism? I'm afraid it might be just like Hayward. Elmwood needs to be stopped!
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Location: Elk Grove Village, IL & Phillips, WI | The new Wisconsin record program was suddenly dropped! Probably threats from the "Hayward Mafia"!
I care about the world record. Shouldn't it be legit? |
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Location: Richland Center, WI. | KenK - 2/28/2014 10:09 AM
The new Wisconsin record program was suddenly dropped! Probably threats from the "Hayward Mafia"!
I care about the world record. Shouldn't it be legit?
Probably? Now that statement sounds legit. |
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