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| Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 10:06 PM
Ja Rule - 1/2/2014 6:54 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 6:13 PM
I am against spearing,netting,and even bow and arrow fishing .I dont believe this is sportsmanship,just plain harvest.I dont have a problem with fishing and harvest either,just politics instead of sportsmanship.I think this whole reason people are allowed to spear, is political as in political correctness ,but that is only my opinion.I think the spearing in general would be outlawed all together world wide, if it did not benefit a certain group.0723
You say you don't mind people harvesting fish by hook and line, but you do by spear? This makes no sense to me, harvest is harvest. Actually the majority of your post makes no sense so I'm not sure why I bother.
You just had to, didn't you.
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Location: The desert | 0723 - 1/2/2014 9:17 PM
Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 10:14 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 8:14 PM
Spearing was a tradition of harvest to eat.This is not a problem in 2014 in minnesota or wisconsin.Now in Alaska the eskimo spear/hunt seals ,for some its their only source of meat ,thats a different story.I dont think people are starving in Minn/Wisc because they cant spear pike walleye and musky.To many regulations are broken to continue this mockery as an excuse for tradition in our present country.0723
We should shut down fishing then as multiple regulations are broken every year. No one is starving so they don't need angling harvest. Not to mention eliminating boating and fishing would eliminate the invasive species threat to the nation, reduce pollution etc. All catch and release I will go along with that.If your caught its a felony.Electric motors for boating sounds good too.This might be some of the smartest things you have ever said here,good job guy.0723
So what you enjoy is ok even if some break the rules and should still be allowed, but what others may enjoy shouldnt be allowed because you don't like it and a few may break the rules? Great philosophy.
No catch and release. People could still break the rules. Electric motors only doesn't minimize the AIS threat.
Also, all hunting should be banned. Firearms confiscated. People break the rules.
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| 0723 - 1/2/2014 10:11 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 8:59 PM
Ja Rule - 1/2/2014 7:54 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 6:13 PM
I am against spearing,netting,and even bow and arrow fishing .I dont believe this is sportsmanship,just plain harvest.I dont have a problem with fishing and harvest either,just politics instead of sportsmanship.I think this whole reason people are allowed to spear, is political as in political correctness ,but that is only my opinion.I think the spearing in general would be outlawed all together world wide, if it did not benefit a certain group.0723
You say you don't mind people harvesting fish by hook and line, but you do by spear? This makes no sense to me, harvest is harvest. Actually the majority of your post makes no sense so I'm not sure why I bother. Spearing harvest is not fishing harvest.What dont you understand?Spearing is 100 percent harvest there is no live release.I said I dont have problem with harvest not 100 percent of your catch to keep.'A certain group spears and , bottom line no politican is going to cross them if he/she stands a chance to run for bigger office someday.I dont know why i bother to explain the obvious to you maybe you are a pol too.0723 yes i did! |
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| Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 10:31 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 9:17 PM
Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 10:14 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 8:14 PM
Spearing was a tradition of harvest to eat.This is not a problem in 2014 in minnesota or wisconsin.Now in Alaska the eskimo spear/hunt seals ,for some its their only source of meat ,thats a different story.I dont think people are starving in Minn/Wisc because they cant spear pike walleye and musky.To many regulations are broken to continue this mockery as an excuse for tradition in our present country.0723
We should shut down fishing then as multiple regulations are broken every year. No one is starving so they don't need angling harvest. Not to mention eliminating boating and fishing would eliminate the invasive species threat to the nation, reduce pollution etc. All catch and release I will go along with that.If your caught its a felony.Electric motors for boating sounds good too.This might be some of the smartest things you have ever said here,good job guy.0723
So what you enjoy is ok even if some break the rules and should still be allowed, but what others may enjoy shouldnt be allowed because you don't like it and a few may break the rules? Great philosophy.
No catch and release. People could still break the rules. Electric motors only doesn't minimize the AIS threat.
Also, all hunting should be banned. Firearms confiscated. People break the rules.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | 0723 - 1/2/2014 6:42 PM
The big problem is most will spear anything that goes by.0723
how many dark-house spearers do you know to be able to draw that conclusion? |
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| A few in the cass area and its not pretty.The biggest thing for all of you is if you spear an undersized fish or wrong fish thats it no release.0723 |
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| As someone who loves to spear and muskie fish i guess im a bit of an oddball but the one thing i do agree with many of you on is the MN darkhouse assocation leadership is a joke, i am embarrassed that many of them represent me as a spearer. I believe that they are a very poor representation of what most spearers are, i have a few friends who are chapter leaders they like myself pratice look and release we are regulary taking video of large fish instead of spearing them and spearing smaller fish for the dinner table. Unfortunately the few mostly old school guys who will spear everything have given most of us a bad name and have giving darkhouse spearing a black eye. I think over time the darkhouse assoc and the muskie inc groups will get along but it will take time and will take new leadership. Unfortunately people like 0723 who dont like something so they think it should be banned will fuel the darkhouse assoc even further to want to spear muskie to rub it in muskie fishermans faces. When sportsmans group fight eachother like muskies inc and the darkhouse assoc have no one wins and everyone looses. |
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Location: The desert | 0723 - 1/2/2014 9:38 PM
Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 10:31 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 9:17 PM
Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 10:14 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 8:14 PM
Spearing was a tradition of harvest to eat.This is not a problem in 2014 in minnesota or wisconsin.Now in Alaska the eskimo spear/hunt seals ,for some its their only source of meat ,thats a different story.I dont think people are starving in Minn/Wisc because they cant spear pike walleye and musky.To many regulations are broken to continue this mockery as an excuse for tradition in our present country.0723
We should shut down fishing then as multiple regulations are broken every year. No one is starving so they don't need angling harvest. Not to mention eliminating boating and fishing would eliminate the invasive species threat to the nation, reduce pollution etc. All catch and release I will go along with that.If your caught its a felony.Electric motors for boating sounds good too.This might be some of the smartest things you have ever said here,good job guy.0723
So what you enjoy is ok even if some break the rules and should still be allowed, but what others may enjoy shouldnt be allowed because you don't like it and a few may break the rules? Great philosophy.
No catch and release. People could still break the rules. Electric motors only doesn't minimize the AIS threat.
Also, all hunting should be banned. Firearms confiscated. People break the rules.
We have had these conversations on here forever. I love when people like you dont agree with someone ,and than act like a crazed tea party member saying their taking our guns.Just get over yourself.The rest of us have.0723
I'm going to need a gibberish to English translation for this one. I haven't the foggiest idea what you're trying to say here. My guess is you don't really know what you're talking about either. |
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| jonnysled - 1/2/2014 10:44 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 6:42 PM
The big problem is most will spear anything that goes by.0723
how many dark-house spearers do you know to be able to draw that conclusion? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | ^ yup bigdog
i was asking you 0723 …
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| Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 10:49 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 9:38 PM
Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 10:31 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 9:17 PM
Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 10:14 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 8:14 PM
Spearing was a tradition of harvest to eat.This is not a problem in 2014 in minnesota or wisconsin.Now in Alaska the eskimo spear/hunt seals ,for some its their only source of meat ,thats a different story.I dont think people are starving in Minn/Wisc because they cant spear pike walleye and musky.To many regulations are broken to continue this mockery as an excuse for tradition in our present country.0723
We should shut down fishing then as multiple regulations are broken every year. No one is starving so they don't need angling harvest. Not to mention eliminating boating and fishing would eliminate the invasive species threat to the nation, reduce pollution etc. All catch and release I will go along with that.If your caught its a felony.Electric motors for boating sounds good too.This might be some of the smartest things you have ever said here,good job guy.0723
So what you enjoy is ok even if some break the rules and should still be allowed, but what others may enjoy shouldnt be allowed because you don't like it and a few may break the rules? Great philosophy.
No catch and release. People could still break the rules. Electric motors only doesn't minimize the AIS threat.
Also, all hunting should be banned. Firearms confiscated. People break the rules.
We have had these conversations on here forever. I love when people like you dont agree with someone ,and than act like a crazed tea party member saying their taking our guns.Just get over yourself.The rest of us have.0723
I'm going to need a gibberish to English translation for this one. I haven't the foggiest idea what you're trying to say here. My guess is you don't really know what you're talking about either.
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| jonnysled - 1/2/2014 10:50 PM
^ yup bigdog
i was asking you 0723 … I know a few and it aint pretty.I told you that.I reeled in the big dog Mr Ja Obama hes the big dog here in the internet world.0723 |
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Location: The desert | So your beef with spearing is what again? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i think he heard everyone just chucks spears at anything that moves … |
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| Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 11:10 PM
So your beef with spearing is what again? There are no releases for mistakes made on size and species when you spear a fish.To easy to say I thought it was a pike than take a musky or walleye home.0723
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Location: minocqua, wi. | it's easy to choose what you harvest, and easier to tell what kind of fish is coming in … some break laws, most don't but, i'm sure you've "heard" that too.
to, too, two … there is a difference |
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| jonnysled - 1/2/2014 11:18 PM
i think he heard everyone just chucks spears at anything that moves … I think everybody here knows thats the truth.You must be a spear man too.I hope pike only.0723 |
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| Hey Einstein this is not a spelling bee or term paper if you dont understand dont respond but dont act like your some gifted student from the north.0723
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Location: minocqua, wi. | family and friends and i have been spearing since i was a kid … it's a sport not unlike most other outdoor sports. i enjoy it and expect that won't be disrupted in my lifetime. i also catch big pike through the ice and release the bigger ones, harvest fish, have a great fish-batter recipe and put lots of meals on the table throughout the year by various means. fish and venison are staples in my house and we respect the sports and their rules without telling others they are right or wrong for doing things within the laws and regulations.
you represent the musky special interest and it's your prerogative but it is divisive and not accurate. |
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Location: The desert | 0723 - 1/2/2014 10:19 PM
Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 11:10 PM
So your beef with spearing is what again? There are no releases for mistakes made on size and species when you spear a fish.To easy to say I thought it was a pike than take a musky or walleye home.0723
Isn't it equally as easy to keep an over/under sized fish using hook and line? Or to keep an over limit? People break laws, it's a fact of life. You can't lump an entire group because you've heard a few are bad.
Harvest is harvest, it really doesn't matter how it happens. Why are you so against harvest? You do know fish taste good, right? If I go out and keep a limit of pike how is that any different than Sled going out and spearing a limit of pike? |
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| Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 11:34 PM
0723 - 1/2/2014 10:19 PM
Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 11:10 PM
So your beef with spearing is what again? There are no releases for mistakes made on size and species when you spear a fish.To easy to say I thought it was a pike than take a musky or walleye home.0723
Isn't it equally as easy to keep an over/under sized fish using hook and line? Or to keep an over limit? People break laws, it's a fact of life. You can't lump an entire group because you've heard a few are bad.
Harvest is harvest, it really doesn't matter how it happens. Why are you so against harvest? You do know fish taste good, right? If I go out and keep a limit of pike how is that any different than Sled going out and spearing a limit of pike? |
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Location: The desert | Please enlighten me as to who does most of the spearing in MN and WI? Are you referring to Native Americans? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i know musky guys who used to hang pike on their deck cleats by the gils after incidental catches of northern pike while musky fishing … does that make all musky fishermen disrespectful of pike? and if you say that sort of thing doesn't happen then you're more delusional than you project on your own (which is pretty hard to do).
what spearing are you referencing that has a size limit?
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| Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 11:54 PM
Please enlighten me as to who does most of the spearing in MN and WI? Are you referring to Native Americans? No its the irish.0723 |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | 0723 = your take on WI Sturgeon Spearing and the Management of that Resource? please … tell me what you "hear" |
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| jonnysled - 1/2/2014 11:57 PM
i know musky guys who used to hang pike on their deck cleats by the gils after incidental catches of northern pike while musky fishing … does that make all musky fishermen disrespectful of pike? and if you say that sort of thing doesn't happen then you're more delusional than you project on your own (which is pretty hard to do).
what spearing are you referencing that has a size limit?
Yes i think most musky fisherman disrepect pike,I think its wrong too.0723 |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | so, that same group is now the authority on a group that has managed to survive for decades harvesting and managing the resource that most musky fishermen disrespect? for fear that they don't know how to tell the difference between a pike and a musky?? and which group should drive policy?? |
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| jonnysled - 1/2/2014 11:59 PM
0723 = your take on WI Sturgeon Spearing and the Management of that Resource? please … tell me what you "hear" Sled you have your own made up fantasy world about all the do-gooders spearing so you are going to believe what you want to anyways.0723 |
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| jonnysled - 1/3/2014 12:04 AM
so, that same group is now the authority on a group that has managed to survive for decades harvesting and managing the resource that most musky fishermen disrespect? for fear that they don't know how to tell the difference between a pike and a musky?? and which group should drive policy?? I didnt say any group should control anything, just spearing has no business in todays world.0723 |
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Location: The desert | 0723 - 1/2/2014 10:58 PM
Pointerpride102 - 1/2/2014 11:54 PM
Please enlighten me as to who does most of the spearing in MN and WI? Are you referring to Native Americans? No its the irish.0723
You do know that a good percentage of spearers on Minnesota are white, right? |
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