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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | I have not been in this for nearly as long as others. However from what I have learned over the years and in my recent time with Muskies inc. I would have to say that Muskies inc as a whole has had one of the largest impacts on the sport. They really pushed CPR, stocking and rearing, not to mention plenty of conservation conquests throughout the country and Canada. Also a lot of the names mentioned have been or are currently part of Muskies inc. To name one person would be hard, muskies inc is larger than any one person, but all of those strong names working together as one unit has really made all the difference in muskies inc and this wonderful addicting sport.
great discussion by the way! |
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| Dr Stewart Adams,,who invented Ibuprofen |
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Location: oswego, il | Yep Jason helped push the ball and a part of M.I. |
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| Did you ask about biggest impact on muskie fishing as a whole or biggest impact on the skulls of individual muskies?
If it's the former, I would say it's Mr. Hamm in Minnesota and Mr. Larry Slagoski in Wisconsin. Mr. Bucher was the key figure in developing the industry.
However, if it's the latter, he's been named here too. |
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| Len Hartmen changed musky fishing every where there is muskies not just 1 state,city or town.. none of you trollers would even be musky fishing if it wasn't for him..
Joe Bucher also changed musky fishing on a grand scale called night fishing witch again changed the way people fished for muskies every where there is muskies.. |
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| MuskyLureFreak - 6/13/2012 1:53 PM
Len Hartmen changed musky fishing every where there is muskies not just 1 state,city or town.. none of you trollers would even be musky fishing if it wasn't for him..
Joe Bucher also changed musky fishing on a grand scale called night fishing witch again changed the way people fished for muskies every where there is muskies..
Are talking internet trollers? Or trollers as in trolling for muskies at 5 MPH/ Cause if it's the latter, I never hesrd of Len Hartman untill a long time after I started trolling. For muskies that is. |
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| I don't think it is a who as it is a what. The Internet!!! Curious to know how noted the before mentioned would be with out it, even though some are pre internet. |
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| What the hell is wrong with you people? The question is to be answered by each person , and their opinion is no less valid than the one before or after. Get your collective heads out of the crabbass bag, and try enjoying a day once. |
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Location: Des Moines IA | Louie Spray ......... |
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| Impact on the sport...too many to list and many that I 'm sure are off the radar and unknown to me. Thanks to all of them.
Impact on "catching" whoever figured out that whole figure 8 thing. I would love to know who that was and what the spark was that made him or her try it.
Impact on how I fish personally... from his writings...Dick Pearson |
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Location: Washington, PA | Slamr. Possibly a negative impact, but an impact no less. |
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| Man, haven't posted here in a while...but this caught my attention...
A few good names on the list, but... Some people have short memories. Others, apparently, have none at all. That's ok. If you've been muskie fishing 5 years, then that's your history, and it's cool to see some of the names people come up with. I'm not trying to be a curmudgeon here. But there are some names that shouldn't be left out.
- Mark Windels, Dick Pearson, and Doug Johnson, and the Lindners for giving them a venue in the In-Fisherman. While most muskie fishermen were treating muskies as unicorns with fins, and waxing poetic in MI magazine about their 15 year quest for a 'legal,' Windels, Pearson, and Johnson were developing the knowledge we now take for granted - Windels' efficient, common sense approach to covering water, and revolutionary takes on rods, reels and lures (I'll never forget reading the first article about him in In-Fish. Blew my mind. I bet I re-read it 20 times...); Pearson's Trout water exploration in Canada and his discoveries about muskies on rocks, deep water fish, and on and on; Johnson's methodical breakdowns of meso water muskies that apply almost anywhere they swim. Look at the articles they were involved in from the early days of In-Fish, and it's the bedrock of modern muskie fishing. Add in Homer LeBlanc from the trolling angle, and they were pretty much the pantheon in terms of teaching the rest of us what's what. Still are, frankly.
- The catch and release radicals in the early days of MI, like Steve Voight, Jack Burns, Sol Brandys and others, who finally shamed MI into ending the kill divisions in their tournaments by hammering over and over one simple and immutable fact at a time when the fishery was made up almost entirely of natural, wild muskies: dead fish don't breed... It was Voight who, virtually single-handed, convinced the OMNR to make Lac Suel C&R Only
- Bob Strand. If you've caught a muskie on Mille Lacs, Vermilion, Big Detroit, or any of the other stocked lakes in MN, he's the reason. I would be willing to bet that a lot of you have no earthly idea what muskie fishing was like in MN before the mid 1990s when it was all natural lakes. You can say that this is too narrow and limited to Minnesota, but I'd argue that the rise in popularity of muskies in general tracks pretty closely with the growth of the MN stocked fisheries...
- Researchers like Crossman and Casselman, Strand, Jerry Younk, Terry Marganeau (I probably butchered his last name - sorry Terry...)
- Lure makers like Frank Suick, Frenchy LeMay, George Wahl, Jake Satonica, and Mark Windels (that name, again...) and the contemporary inheritors of a great tradition of lure making like Brad from Muskie Innovations, and Carrie and Brad Hoppe.
Anyhow...some random thoughts on the subject.
Cheers,
RK
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| The one thing that has had the absolute biggest impact on the sport is not necessarily who but a what and that is The Internet itself!!! I dont even need to get into details. |
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| Wow, I thought Saric might show up in someone's post. Interesting. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | He just did. |
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| I'd say Saric too, but not for "having had" impact like a lot of the deserving names mentioned and a lot not mentioned or even the recent crowing as a "legenday angler" like a lot of other guys have "had" as well. I give him the nod for HAVING an impact right this minute. With Musky Hunter being the last man standing as a magazine (and a good one), the TV show that often offers more to learn than to buy, and especially the Musky Hunter schools that are more amazing than most would imagine at giving new hunters the proper foundation and excitement for the sport. So, with absolutely zero disrespect for the guys who built the sport he now leads...I say he now leads it....and as they say in horse racing, leads it "going away!" |
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| Gotta mention John Underhill, who probably has had the most influence on me personally in the last five years or so with his posts and work in Minnesota.
Across the whole sport, can't name just one, my list is getting really long. |
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| Without Bob Strand in Bemidji, their would be know big v, mille lacs, or any leech lake strain fish stocked. Not even a question who had the biggest impact! Every time you release a stocked fish in MN, & now parts of WI, you should thank him. |
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| Al Gore. He invented the internet.
On a serious note, would we be able to access information about muskie fishing as quickly if the internet did not exist? Think of the pressure that some bodies of water receive. That certainly can't be the result strictly of word of mouth or print media. 15 years ago you could go to certain lakes and you might see three or four boats. Now those will be unpressured but all of a sudden a pic of a nice fish or two pops up on line and you've got a parking lot full of trailers.
The hidden gems, uncharted territories, new frontiers, and lake x's are discovered much quicker than they had been before...not all, but a good number of them. You also have those that are connected online fishing with people they never would've fished with before shortening the learning curve due to a diverse set of experiences that are being shared. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Curt Ebert, Roger Sabota and Denny Spencer for me ... i remember being invited into the back of the jewelry store to get some bait making/tuning tips from Curt, meeting Roger on the ice and getting some great Boom Flowage advice and then the best time of all celebrating a river pig at Spencer's Den before Denny sold it.
our sport has a great heritage with some fantastic old boys!!
edit ... Steve, i don't consider you "old" ... yet.
Edited by jonnysled 6/14/2012 7:58 AM
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Location: Yahara River Chain | No doubt Gil Hamm and Muskies, Inc.
For MN its got to be Frank Schneider Jr He was always at the Statehouse pushing regs for the betterment of MN muskies.
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| Saric and Musky Hunter Magazine for me... Kept us Canadian boys informed. |
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| Hey RK,
Wish you would post more. Always liked reading your stuff, by the way thanks for the tow back to Sandy's in 2002  |
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| Too funny. Reading some of these posts you would think the world revolves around Minnesota and nobody had ever heard of a muskie until Minnesotans figured out how to catch them. |
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Location: Smith Creek | I blame Windels and Pearson for making me think there was a fish behind every rock in LOTW and I blame Ramsell and Spray for making me think there is even a remote possibility that I could catch a 70 lber in Wisconsin. |
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Location: MN | Guest - 6/14/2012 10:27 AM
Too funny. Reading some of these posts you would think the world revolves around Minnesota and nobody had ever heard of a muskie until Minnesotans figured out how to catch them.
Hey b!tch, we just learned how to grow them BIG! Have fun with your mid 30 inchers!!! |
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Location: Apollo, PA | Read RK's post, then read it again, and again........BOOOYAH |
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Location: Minnetonka | Pikiespawn - 6/14/2012 10:57 AM
Read RK's post, then read it again, and again........BOOOYAH
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Hammskie - 6/14/2012 11:00 AM
Pikiespawn - 6/14/2012 10:57 AM
Read RK's post, then read it again, and again........BOOOYAH
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