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Location: Minneapolis, MN | FAT-SKI I agree with you to an extent. However, most members do not go to a meeting. Our chapter has some 400+ members but we only see 50-90 at a meeting. The younger generation isn't going to attend meetings at a higher percentage of the current rate because they live in a virtual world. Killing the expense of the magazine gives MI capital to invest in new technology to connect with the younger generation. | ||
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Posts: 1360 Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | Brad P - 3/21/2012 12:31 PM I'm a member of the North Metro club here in the Twin Cities. I joined last year to go to a banquet and hear Larry Dahlberg speak. Since then I joined the club and recently decided to become more active as I see value in the club. The International issues do not really concern me. I'm sure they are very important to some folks and I do not begrudge them that, however, I think it it covers up the great benefits that local clubs have to offer. As a fisherman who is still fairly new to the sport, the club offers a myriad of benefits. Every month I get to hear a different guide speak and I learn new things that might have taken me years on the water to figure out on my own. The other members will share information that helps you become a better fisherman. The local leagues, tournies, and trips are all excellent opportunities that wouldn't be present without the club. I think it is a great opportunity to speed your learning curve and meet other people that have the same addiction as you. Just my opinion. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree with everything said above to the fullest. Which is why regardless I am a member. I love being able to listen to people talk about all things Musky, that have a vast knowledge greater then my own. Brad P listed all the exact reasons why this Club is great for the young and old members. I as well do not look into the INTL side of everything. My reason for being there is so I can help my local fisheries as well as become a better fisherman myself. The things I stated above are IMHO some of the reasons younger guys don't join.. thats all. I hear it from them and think it myself from time to time. This will be my fourth year Musky hunting, I am very new to the sport. But it took me three years to join for some of those reasons I stated above. Once I realized that being a part of MI will not only help myself but help the fisheries I did not hesitate to pay my $35. I also believe that being young myself will help get young guys that I know involved so we can continue this for many years to come. What I want to know, is how can I better assist the organization to help it and not just sit here explaining my opinion. I want to get out there and help teach the young guys to. I am learning day by day how to do so, but wish I had a better backing of knowledge on how to better accomplish these goals. Any Thoughts? Edited by FAT-SKI 3/21/2012 1:08 PM | ||
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Posts: 1360 Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | Luke_Chinewalker - 3/21/2012 12:42 PM FAT-SKI I agree with you to an extent. However, most members do not go to a meeting. Our chapter has some 400+ members but we only see 50-90 at a meeting. The younger generation isn't going to attend meetings at a higher percentage of the current rate because they live in a virtual world. Killing the expense of the magazine gives MI capital to invest in new technology to connect with the younger generation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am learning more right now reading all of these opinions then I probably would have just going to meetings. Anyway to expand knowledge, for me, is valuable. This forum and discussion is a great way. I hope to have many more of these throughout the year. That is just my 10 cents. clearly, I spoke more then two... Edited by FAT-SKI 3/21/2012 1:42 PM | ||
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Posts: 833 | This is just my perspective as a younger guy who recently joined. Our club is going through a lot changes due in part to the "youth movement" type issues that have been hit upon here. This is one of the reasons I've decided to get more active and help shape the future of the club. I'm in my 30s which makes me a younger member, so if I want more things that I'm interested then it is up to me to get involved and help make those thigns happen. That is the nature of volunteer work. I read the stuff in this thread, incuding some very valid criticisms, but I think it isn't so much a crticism of what MI stands for so much as how it delivers on that mission. if you asked most everyone here the question of whether or not they approve of the core MI mission, I think it is reasonable to think they would all vigorously support it. So the question to me is more about how the MI club delivers it's "product" to it's membership vs. whether or not the product is worthwhile. I think this is a key to increasing local membership as well as interest in the sport as a whole. | ||
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Posts: 3480 Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Hi Everyone, As an educator of our future generations, a few things come to mind as to why many kids are not involved anywhere near as much as maybe many of us were when we were younger. On top of some of the things already mentioned (economy playing a big part, busy family life, etc.), we have kids these days that desire an instant gratification of what they do, and an attention span that cannot handle anything more than about 20 minutes. I believe there are many reasons for this with one of the largest contributors is media and video games. Watch a TV show and count how many times the camera view changes. Listen to a song on the radio...how long does it last as compared to many of the older songs of years past? With video games, a kid will sit there for hours on end to master a level because there is instant gratification in getting further along in the level itself. The point being here is that many kids (not all) have been allowed to have all the electronic gadgets for entertainment purposes, and the ideals of being outside, enjoying nature and the fruits it has to offer are less desired. What incentive is there for kids to get out there when games, toys, phones, text messaging are all at the forefront of their lives? The age of being creative with simple basic things around is in essence, gone... making mud pies are a thing of the past. The scope of this goes well beyond Muskies Inc, clubs, etc as it can be applied to many areas in life. I think to get more young kids involved in a technology filled society is a going to be a very very tough task. If (and hopefully...when) someone figures out how to disconnect the masses of kids from thier techno gadgets, TV, etc. we will see an increase in all areas of the outdoors, including muskies...and we as a group of people need to create more and more opportunities to work with kids. I believe if we had more outdoor programs where we can get fishing rods in kids hands we can make some things happen. Get them out there with quick results (panfish, perch, etc.) and they can become "hooked" so to speak... If Muskies Inc wants more membership, things like this could potentially bring more young people into the sport of fishing in general, and as they continue to age, we can then groom them to pursue more challenging fish.... This is a long road, though... much in the same light as In Fisherman, muskies inc, etc. with catch and release. I also feel it comes down to more than just putting $$ out there. People need to look at it as how can they contribute rather than what do they get (as has been very well stated in previous posts). I am not a part of Muskies Inc, but I do my best to encourage others (especially younger ones) to try it and see how that first fish following a bait to the boat can be all it takes to get them focused on catching one, starting their obsession. Steve | ||
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Posts: 716 | Beyond the outings the meetings and the fun parts.... Whether you choose to be a member or not is one point but I think being a SUPPORTER is really the key. Joining and then stopping there is a step but the bigger picture is doing something more...and joining does not have to be a precurser to being involved. The big picture requires: Donations...either time and effort, items of value or money. Find your own nitch in the picture. Everyone has something the local chapter needs and in the balance a little time is a great donation if the money isn't easy to come by or give. Someone needs to help raise, market and then manage the funds from these efforts. People need to work with the state/ local fisheries experts to identify and prioritize the finacial needs beyond the meager stipend the government provides. Available funds need to be assessed in a reasonable manner to work towards sensible goals. So you need people to donate, people to buy donations and people to organize fundraising and then distribute it in a business like and responsible manner. Additionally there are great events to produce, vets to take fishing, kids to get involved...again, time effort and funding. I live in the Twin Cities area and the two clubs here to an A+ job with all of these tasks. I truthfully don't know exactly what happens at the National level but I see great things that happen locally and I am proud to be associated with both chapters. The key is to do something...support something...provide a little push behind the wheels so our fishing keeps up with the now easily learned knowledge and resulting numbers that are flocking to the sport. Involvement becomes it's own reward. | ||
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Posts: 8781 | Bturg, what you state is where I believe the value of a MI membership really shines. Plenty of people WANT to do something, but they don't know what, or for whom, or how. Some people fish alone and would be happy to take a newbie fishing. Some people have an extensive knowledge of their lakes, and would love to share that information. Some people have money to donate. Some people have connections at companies who can donate money and/or products. Some people want to teach kids how to fish. Some people want to get their hands dirty and stock muskies or clean up lakes and rivers. Some people are salesmen, some people are good negotiators, some are financial guys, some have experience with fundraising... I could go on, but you get the point. We can all do things on our own, but MI is the place where you can foster that desire, and put the skills and personalities of individuals together in one place, and actually make things happen. It's the place people can go and have someone who knows what needs to be done find the right person to make it happen. The $35 is nothing. How many guys have $3,500 tied up in lures? I guarantee you that nearly everyone has some skill or talent or interest that could be out to good use. And what's in it for them is a brighter future of muskie fishing than what we've seen in the past. And that's where MI fails IMO. They fail to communicate to potential members what exactly they have to gain from joining MI. I joined because I love fishing, and I was really into learning about the whole muskie deal. It wasn't until AFTER I joined and went to the meetings every month that I learned what our club really does and why and where and how. I think if people really knew what was being accomplished, they'd be lining up to join. But they don't know. They see a magazine and a bunch of fat old guys sitting around drinking beer. | ||
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Posts: 726 Location: Eau Claire, WI | First thing I want to say is that I am not privvy to day to day goings on with the Int'l. Some of this may be happening and I simply don't know. I have been very involved with my chapter for a long time. I've been a board member since the late 90's and I have been a VP, secretary, and chaired a few committees. All organizations are struggling to stay relevant. It began when boards like this became more popular. I work with a ton of different organizations and largely it doesn't matter if we are talking about Heart Surgeons or Muskie Fishers. The expansion of the internet and social media makes all associations/organizations struggle to stay relevant and justify the cost of membership. I believe M.I. will grow again when their purpose is more focused and visible. Stop trying to be "me too" and show up late to the party with a mediocre product that the market already gets from somewhere else for less money. What can M.I. be the best in the world at? I think the answer is resource advocacy and action. This is what many cite as the reason they are involved and currently the chapters get credit for that. I think that is well deserved and I like that people see that. Over the years, the parent organization has wasted a lot of time and resources trying to be all things to all people. There has also has been a "you come to us because we are the kings" mentality in trying to attract members. I think the guilt trip comment is valid. That kind of institutional arrogance is deadly in the current market environment. I think that the org has tried to change it but its a mixed bag and the whole "skin in the game or you are not valid" mentality is an example of how something have not changed. Join or shut up. How many times has that been used? A few examples that I see: Who needs a magazine? Can M.I. be the best in the world at publishing? Research articles are good but it doesn't have mass appeal. The other stuff can be largely obtained elsewhere in print and online. The cost of disseminating MI specific info is too high and its smothered in a product that is eclipsed in the market by others. Who needs a website? Can M.I. exceed the quality and presence of sites like this? Been trying for years, yet to succeed. Costly journey. Stick to just org stuff and go to the people on facebook, twitter, sites like this. Who needs a contest and Lunge Log? Trophies for everyone! It comes at a cost. Lunge log should be open like Musky Hunters and made available as a perk to people as an app people can use to log their catches and keep them private if they want. We don't need to pay people to run this. who needs fishing info from MI? You can learn a ton way faster than going to a few meetings here and there and abiding by the "shut up and listen" idea. MI chapters do have value here though. I learned location specific stuff that I could never get out in the cloud. I also enjoy the social aspects of the outings, etc. It can be hard though for a new guy to break in and enjoy this benefit of membership. Not all chapters have the most inviting memberships. I learned that the hard way trying to break into my chapter years ago. I almost quit because of it. I got involved and worked to change it. Still that reputation haunts us no matter what we do. I give MI upper mgmt credit for trying something with Keyes. What I wonder is how it went when Perry had Simply Fishing promoting the org that makes this time around promising. I believe even then the "stagnant to receding membership" topic was alive and well. I think that the marketing challenge here is to first raise brand awareness THEN comes the call to action. I have not seen Keyes so I don't know what they are saying but if the lead is "join us" it won't be all that great until audience members understand who MI is and what they do for all of us. I think if the org realigns and focuses purely on expanding the range and increasing waters in established territories that is something M.I. can truly be the best in the world at and all financial/marketing activities should serve that goal. That is the niche MI is well suited to be the best at. That is my personal opinion and its the reason I still belong. All the rest is a distraction and a costly one at that. Jon Olstadt First WI Chapter | ||
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Posts: 1360 Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | "I read the stuff in this thread, incuding some very valid criticisms, but I think it isn't so much a crticism of what MI stands for so much as how it delivers on that mission. if you asked most everyone here the question of whether or not they approve of the core MI mission, I think it is reasonable to think they would all vigorously support it" -Brad P "So the question to me is more about how the MI club delivers it's "product" to it's membership vs. whether or not the product is worthwhile. I think this is a key to increasing local membership as well as interest in the sport as a whole." - Brad P -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OK, So after this I am going to try and refrain from posting on this thread again as I have a lot already and let someone else speak their piece. However I am confused with your above statement, I am not trying to criticize you in anyway I just don't understand the question you are asking. If you would hands down support the core of MI, how and why would you question its value? You said most if not all of us would vigorously support it, but then it seems as if you are questioning the worthiness of the product itself? Just trying to better understand where you are coming from... | ||
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Posts: 3147 | When is somebody going to stepup and start an alternative musky org in Minn??? they have a bunch of independent clubs in wisc Im a dedicated active MI member and I dont view this has any type of comp or threat.In fact over the years Ive tried to challenge/provoke this to happen.Id love to see more MN muskie anglers who dont agree with MI organized so the DNR and more importantly the politicians can see the interest. Ive been to MANY,MANY dnr,public input muskie issue events over the years and its always the same MI guys who show to make the stand, you could print up the name badges in advance. In Minn thank god we have MI there wouldnt be anything else. | ||
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Posts: 2384 Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | FAT-SKI - 3/21/2012 9:22 AM Hey gtp888... I appreciate the compliment. I have also heard that. But being a young guy who is an avid Musky hunter as well as knowing a few other young guys out there. To be honest, MI can advertise all they want. I understand the MI in a way is using keys to reach guys like me. But I feel I can safely say, regardless to advertising it is not going to make a difference if there is no respect coming from the other "senior" members. I attended my first meeting a few weeks ago and the signals I got from the people there were very mixed. Some of the guys were more then willing to give me info, and discuss with me what they know, so I can further expand my knowledge of this beautiful sport. But there were other people that looked at me like I was just a "dumb kid" in their eyes and it almost made me not want to go back. I tried to talk to as many people as possible, some were willing some were not. When you try and try to speak with people to expand knowledge and they just blow you off. It does not matter how much advertising is out there. If members of MI are concerned about the number of youth members joining (and they should be) The difference in how MI is run needs to start with its senior members, not getting rid of a magazine. if people think that young fisherman aren't joining because of a few expensive pieces of paper, that is just laughable in my mind. Its because there is no mutual respect... If that is not going to change, then nothing is going to change. Once it is realized that "you need us, more then we need you" the active members will sky rocket. I am not trying to sound self centered. Like I said in my previous post. I want to be a part of this system because I believe in it. I just need the senior members to believe in us 100% not 50% We're up to 50%! You should have seen it when I was your age and joined. I went a whole year w/o anyone talking to me the 1st time I signed up. That was when I quit the first time. Then I joined another chapter and didn't really like how things were going so I quit again. Then Happy Hooker drug me down to the TC Chapter and it stuck. You are so right when it comes to the interpersonal relationships and being open when it comes to getting people to stick around. I've been beating that drum for years at the TC Chapter, and while it's far from perfect it's light years from where we started from 10 years ago. Since the political side of things have been slower this year I've been devoting my time to membership and we're in the process of making some additional changes. I'd love to have you on the team if your interested. Shawn Kellett | ||
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| You're joking, Hooker? Minnesota Musky and Pike Alliance? | |||
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Posts: 3147 | MMPA pardon me if I dont understand your reply I understand we have the MMA now MMPA,,,Im sure your aware of the fact I was one of the original year one members of the first steering committee for the MMA In fact it was MY job to search high and low for candidate Minn groups to invite to join,,all I could come up with was the pike group in Branerd the MMA was all MI chapters in the end. what other non MI Minnesota muskie clubs with a membership are now part of the MMPA Edited by happy hooker 3/21/2012 3:39 PM | ||
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Posts: 833 | At FAT-SKI: I'm not questioning the product, I think the org is great, which is why I joined. My point was to differentiate between the local clubs and what they do vs. some of the issues expressed here regarding the international org. I was trying to point out that being irked about spending $35 annually for whatever reason seems (at least to me) to overlook the many other local positives. The rest of it was getting into the details of how the club frames itself which I'm sure most people do not care about. Me getting too detailed again... that never happens. | ||
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Posts: 1360 Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | Thank you Brad, that is what I was looking for, was not trying to attack you in anyway I was just trying to better understand what you were getting at. So thank you! | ||
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Posts: 13688 Location: minocqua, wi. | Brad P - 3/21/2012 1:50 PM I read the stuff in this thread, incuding some very valid criticisms, but I think it isn't so much a crticism of what MI stands for so much as how it delivers on that mission. Bingo ... | ||
| esoxaddict |
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Posts: 8781 | So okay... How does one get a generation of kids who are glued to their I phones, laptops, and X boxes to appreciate going out in nature and doing what amounts to physical work, to maybe see and maybe catch a few fish? Other than the parents of those kids, many of whom try desperately to keep their kids engaged in the ourdoor activities we all love, who is going to do it? And how do you get a kid who has had everything handed to them, whose life is all about gratfication in seconds or minutes, to go out and actually enjoy spending hours casting and not catching anything? | ||
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Posts: 32886 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Plenty of the younger generations are fishing muskies. The issue is getting them to join MI. | ||
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Posts: 8781 | Steve, I'd argue that what you say is a regional phenomenon. In your area, fishing is a way of life. Kids grow up fishing. Their friends fish, their parents fish, and their grandparents fish. But down here? Wow. We are lucky to have 4 MI chapters within 50 miles of each other, amounting to some 1,000 members or more. But the only kids fishing are fishing because they grew up with it. I can understand that considering the lack of fishing opportunities and quality of fishing down here. But generally speaking, being out on a boat on a lake casting for the opportunity to catch a fish is something that most of today's youth simply do not embrace. The guys in our club will tell you it's like pulling teeth to get their teenage kids out on the boat, and these are die hard muskie anglers. Getting them to have a passion for the outdoors and muskie fishing is an uphill battle. I found my way there as a youth only because my parents took me to WI every weekend, and because quite frankly I belong in the woods. (Which Samantha is all too eager to point out...) My question is quite simply this: How do we get kids into the sport? The children of anglers and MI members will be forced into it by default. I was forced into it by default. But the vast majority of kids today are taught at a young age that things like fishing and hunting and shooting a gun are evil, redneck, low life Rebublican pursuits... If you want younger folks to join MI, you have to convince them that there is a benefit to doing so. The kids who have fathers and uncles and grandfathers in the sport will get there by default. It's the REST of them that we need to reach. To you and I, fishing is a lifestyle. It's in our blood, it's who we are. It's what we've lived and what we grew up with. If MI is to suceed over the long term, it HAS TO reach the people who have not known that as a lifestyle. How do we get there? | ||
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Posts: 32886 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | National Professional Anglers Association. Last weekend the Cap City Chapter made sure a group of kids attended the School, and left with a new rod and reel courtesy of a couple dedicated NPAA members and the NPAA. The next Sunday the same happened at Ice Breaker 7. Want to get some help getting kids into fishing? Contact the NPAA. www.npaa.net If you look at the news tab here, you will see a TON of activity from the NPAA. Coupled with the power of local Muskies Inc clubs, some kids just might end up enjoying fishing. It's all about the Sport. Jono, bullseye. The International could learn a thing or two from the NPAA and should partner up. Dewey, you out there? Attachments ----------------  logo_npaa.gif (5KB - 139 downloads) | ||
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Wow Jono couldn't have been more accurate and articulate about what International needs to do IMHO. Way to go Jono. Someone should submit his post as a motion to take action on at the next International board meeting. | ||
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Posts: 1168 | Pointerpride102 - 3/21/2012 11:14 AM Clubs like the Figure 8 club in north central Wisconsin . I've had some good pm's with happy hooker about this. I'm one of the VP's of this club. I won't go into considerable detail but will if you shoot me a pm. Some on here are familiar with our club. Yes, we are a muskie club but that is a very small part of what we do. We are basically a community service group that puts a ton of our resources back into the local area. Scholarships, boat launch improvements, sponsoring kids fishing days, helping out our local WFT chapter, purchasing little league uniforms, and the list goes on. We also stock fish but by reaching out to the community we are regarded as a community focused organization that cares about the area. We are not seen as "those elitist muskie guys who only stock fish to meet their personal needs." That's a huge reason why we are successful. There is no "us against them" attitude. Yeah, there are antis everywhere but by promoting the other stuff we do and following through with it we have people itching to help us with our events. We do our muskie related stuff but that's not all we have in common with one another. We care about the things we are involved in outside of fishing and improving the fishery. Muskies is the tie that binds us together but it goes beyond that. It is not a MI club and that was intentional. Membership dues go directly back to the club and are invested locally. It's helped build a very solid fishery from nothing and along with our winter ice fishing derby we've generated a considerable amount of money. We've sent money to the Consolidated Club for their stocking efforts and also the C&R club for their efforts plus others. Our own stocking efforts have been tweaked because of a few issues that I won't bother to get into here...primarily increased interest in establishing a walleye fishery and avoiding any negative PR that would give the antis ammo...but we support that effort too by donating money to the WFT chapter and acting as another voice solidly in their corner when approaching the WDNR, businesses in the area, or other local organizations. There's nothing flashy about our group. We're basically just a bunch of hillbillies who enjoy fishing, give each other crap, and enjoy copious amounts of adult beverages but not necessarily in that order and all three are often combined at the same time. Thankfully there is a very determined core of guys who love their Point Special and Schlitz. Bottom line is that we are a community service group with a fishing hobby. | ||
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 Location: Illinois | EA, There are lots of kids who fish whose parents don't in Chicago. I'll often see single moms reading a book while their kid bank fishes a local pond or the banks of Lake Michigan. Not every kid chooses the xbox over the chance to go fishing. Some kids enjoy both. There are tons of Forest Preserve lakes that are stocked annually that offer opportunity to those eager to try. Your rants about how kids are ADD because of video games and cellphones is a little over the top in my opinion. How do you get kids today to go fishing? Ask one. If it's your kid and they won't give it a try, do what you do to get them to do anything else, bribe them. "If you catch the biggest fish Junior, I'll buy you a video game when we're done!" | ||
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Posts: 13688 Location: minocqua, wi. | i've been sold and am joining again. | ||
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| like any organization you take the good w the bad...IMO the good that Muskies Inc does for Musky fishing as a whole, whether it's awareness of cpr etc, stocking, help raising size limits, stocking new waters like in MN, etc etc far outweighs some of the things that might be to some a waste of money... I'm a member and always will be... Sled, I know you like to stir the pot but at times need to step back and look at the big picture..... ; ) | |||
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Posts: 13688 Location: minocqua, wi. | this pot's been boiling bnellie ... nice to see things are finally being addressed. i've been impressed with the acknowledgement of key topics and what looks like momentum to process change both on the board and in pm activity. i'm coming back to MI and it sounds like even more are based on what i'm hearing in pm's. end result of this getting out in the air on this forum looks like it's good for MI. | ||
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Posts: 1224 Location: Okoboji | i think an incentive based membership tied with statewide and national tourneys could be introduced....7 dollars off your registration fees if your a mi member and it is mandatory to be a mi member to be in the tourney. if you make it to 5 tourneys anywhere, bamn there is your mi fees...everybody wins. kinda like in motorcycle racing...you wanna race??? you HAVE to have an ama card. | ||
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Posts: 5874 | Not enough tourney anglers to address the membership issue. I'd wager that a good portion of the tourney anglers are already MI members. As Steve said, NPAA is a good organization, that does alot of good stuff for the kids. Good idea for MI to partner up with this group. Oh, and get rid of the print magazine. It's a money pit. | ||
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Posts: 726 Location: Eau Claire, WI | Steve - the NPAA example is awesome. I've tried to encourage "partnerships" at the local level. We need to be part of the larger angler community so I like to find opportunities to do it. We just finished up a 5 years stocking partnership between our chapter, and the chippewa rod n gun with very important support from Hugh Becker Fund. It was good for us. Shep, amen to both of your points. Print is expensive and dead. Stick to disseminating MI info only and use digital outlets to do it. The extent of hardcopy should be newsletter for those who opt in. Otherwise, head to the web (website, facebook, etc.) or get it emailed to you as a pdf. | ||
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Posts: 1224 Location: Okoboji | Shep - 3/22/2012 1:15 PM Not enough tourney anglers to address the membership issue. I'd wager that a good portion of the tourney anglers are already MI members. is the twin cities tournament a mi only? i bet tons of those guys are not members all the tourneys i have been too that have been put on by the mi local clubs dont require membership.... i think there is an incentive to require membership....i dont have one...i know lots of people that dont that fish tourneys. Edited by kodiak 3/22/2012 1:41 PM | ||
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