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Location: North Central IL USA | Eric - 8/9/2011 6:05 PM
As far as the side storage. The port side storage is where the rod holster is and that has a double hinged door that can be opened with no problem with people in the seats. The starboard side storage is 2 seperate doors and can also be opened fully with people in the seats.
That's kinda what I thought just by looking at the layout. Seems that the seats are far enough away from the sides. |
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Location: Rhinelander | I really like my Warrior, but they are more of a walleye boat as far as freeboard dimensions. They should be back in production for 2012, not sure if they will be making the bass style boat they came out with in about 2008 |
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| gregk9 - 8/9/2011 11:16 PM
Eric - 8/9/2011 6:05 PM
As far as the side storage. The port side storage is where the rod holster is and that has a double hinged door that can be opened with no problem with people in the seats. The starboard side storage is 2 seperate doors and can also be opened fully with people in the seats.
That's kinda what I thought just by looking at the layout. Seems that the seats are far enough away from the sides.
That was another thing that was thought of during the design process. You can be sitting in the seat and you are able to swing 360 degrees and not hit your knees on anything. So if your jigging over the side, you can face the gunnel and not hit your knees on it!!!! |
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| I've just switched from a skeeter 24' center console to a 24' Pathfinder and it's like going from a lumber wagon to a Porsche! It's got some cool "musky specific" features and the finest running, driest, smoothest hull I've ever seen, plus is a very, very good value $wise when compared to anything else in it's class.
In the past couple of weeks it's been on Mille Lac, Leech, Cass, Pike Bay, Bemidji, and a few other puddles as well. Ran from Malmo to Vineland Bay in a 30+mph southwest wind at 42mph and stayed dry and didn't loose any fillings! Simply astonishing!
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Dahly Lama - 8/14/2011 5:13 PM
How does that relate to the question?
Mr. Dahlberg is just relaying to the original poster how awesome properly designed bay boats are! I'm a Ranger guy, but Pathfinders are on my short list (next to Bass Cats and -yeah right- Yellowfins) for 20-24' bays. I have a whole 'nother list for small boats. I fish alone most of the time and 20' is plenty for me. 24' is alot of boat, but room is nice. The only place I don't see bays being prime is for trolling, and that's just for the sake of seating. But I'm sure Larry has trolled his and Pete trolled his on his show this year, so I know it's doable. But I'm not a troller, so bays get my vote 100% of the time for my fishing.
Add a Power Pole or two and you've got a muskie machine that does well with passengers, kids, dogs, whatever.
Now if I can just get past a broken leg, I'd be enjoying mine!
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Location: Des Moines IA | I used to say a 621 VS with a 300 Verado was my "lottery boat" . I've changed my mind, 24 foot Yellowfin bay boat, with a Verado 350!!!
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i would imagine if you look hard enough you still might find some twizzlers, beer nuts, or pringles in that boat somewhere (hopefully not a dirty diaper) or at least the remains of a poweraide stain in that boat jeff ... that thing raised 4 kids. bay boats and kids go together like peas and carrots.
and to the poster who was dissin' ... yes you can run in some rough-stuff with kids onboard which is precicely why i bought them. upright floatation if you ever got into a schit-storm on the water and had your kids onboard. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I told you I found a solidified can of Beer Nuts didn't I? I was wiring my first PP and was like, "what the hell?" No twizzlers or pringles, and I've had that boat stripped to it's stringers the past three winters, so I think you cleaned it out pretty well before that fateful day in July 08 in R&H parking lot.... |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | jonnysled - 8/14/2011 7:21 PM
and to the poster who was dissin' ... yes you can run in some rough-stuff with kids onboard which is precicely why i bought them. upright floatation if you ever got into a schit-storm on the water and had your kids onboard.
Oh, yeah, I run with a dog, which is like a kid....and I'm very, very confident running in 3'ers and fairly confident running in 4's and have done 5's without getting scared. I'll never have a boat without a self-bailing cabin. I've been shin-deep more than once and have take green water over the bow in 4-5's and have felt safe the whole time. The dog may disagree, but I've felt safe at least.... |
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| That new Skeeter does look good, with the possible exception of the front deck being so small. Maybe that's OK because one person fishes up where, one in the back, and if there's a third he can stand in the middle on the relatively close to the water floor?
I've always thought the Skeeter 1850 was a pretty good looking boat with a deeper but not too deep hull. |
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| We own our dual console for just less than one month. For my wife and I the boat works perfectly. We've had 6 adults in the boat with no issues - the boat planed out at around 3400rpm's. Front deck space is more than adequate for one person muskie fishing and a second person netting a muskie. I've fished two adults standing on the back deck - both sides of the boat are covered. The available storage space is awesome - we are not even close to filling all of the storage compartments. |
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Location: Uxbridge Ontario | Stratos just introduced a new 20ft Multi species boat as well. Dont beleive it is on their website yet though.
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| I recently fished 6 days out of Mike Keyes' MX1825. The floor plan worked well for all of the camera equipment and the front deck comfortably fished two. The downside is that the console and seating is too far forward. Fished well, rode hard. High 40's with an f150...max! Limited storage.
I'm running a brand new Pathfinder 2200TRS with an F150. It's an impressive machine! Looking at the construction of these salt water boats has been a real eye-opener. Everything is super tough and simple. My boat is plumbed like the Cornelia Marie. Everything is easy to get at for maintenance. The boat will do about 50, or just under, with 1/2 tank of gas(60gal tank!)
I really think we'll be seeing more and more of them in freshwater. They are tough, ultra versatile and provide the best (IMHO) fishing layout possible. Both the Skeeter and Pathfinder are priced well under Ranger. The 22' Pathfinder is priced 15%-20%+ below the 621. |
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| Stratos is coming out with a multi species boat but the rumor is the pricing is close to $45k. You could get a ranger reata 2050 for that price. |
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| Though those center console boats look nice, I have a hard time considering that a family-type rig. It doesnt look to be a fun ride for passengers at all to me. I think its form vs function type deal.
I have 3 boys and my wife that join me on the water alot, along with friends and their kids. I dont see a center console boat being real practical for that. |
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Location: North Central IL USA | Right on, Captian. They're strictly fishing boats for people that don't mind bad seating. I'll pass. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | mine had the seat right in front of the console that was a favorite and then two comfortable seats on both sides in the rear and then plenty of room for two at the helm ... 5-6 positions that were both safe and comfortable. i guess i'll assume you've never been in one.
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| I have had two pathfinder's since 2004.I could not fish in a Dual Console..it makes no sense..I can walk around the entire boat and address the Fish at any angle!
Dry Ride, no big neck breaking hull bounce!
Why don't the Fisherpersons up here in the North understand that there is a better boat to fish out of???? |
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Location: North Central IL USA | jonnysled - 8/18/2011 3:54 PM
mine had the seat right in front of the console that was a favorite and then two comfortable seats on both sides in the rear and then plenty of room for two at the helm ... 5-6 positions that were both safe and comfortable. i guess i'll assume you've never been in one.
try one sometime ... it might surprise you.
Got a pic of your layout? I've never been in one but I've seen the pictures of the seats...they're lame. Coolers and storage boxes with cushions on top of them basically. Maybe yours is different?
Probably is a pain fishing out of a dual console or full windshield boat at times. Mine's a single console. No problems getting around whatsoever.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | the one i had is pictured in the photo above on the trailer ... it's owned by jeff breidenbach now and is used on lake st. claire, mi. and hauls around a little black kid. that boat was a kid-hauler for many years before going to him. now that my kids are older i run a 690 and love it but trust me, between the boston whaler and that 200C i was on the water with 4 kids and they are fantastic for that purpose. toddlers aren't gonna just tip over and fall out ... my kids were raised on the water. |
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| jonnysled - 8/18/2011 3:54 PM
mine had the seat right in front of the console that was a favorite and then two comfortable seats on both sides in the rear and then plenty of room for two at the helm ... 5-6 positions that were both safe and comfortable. i guess i'll assume you've never been in one.
try one sometime ... it might surprise you. you are right I have not been in one on the water. I have seen them at dealers and walked around in them. While I can agree from a fishing standpoint they are very functional they do not seem practical to me at all when considering family needs. Where is the protection from the elements? We up north folk spend time on the water when snow is in the air pelting rain, etc. A full windshield boat would offer far more protection for all not just the person running the boat. I put my top up, zip in some sides and the whole boat is enclosed I could fish year round and be nice and toast with my buddy heater inside.
I would love to fish in one of those things but for my family now way. |
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| I also fished with Mike and Ben this past week and enjoyed fishing out of the new Skeeter. This boat is a great buy and is very Musky friendly we fished three guys comfortably. I really didn't notice the ride being that hard for all the traffic on the water. I am looking at going into one this next season.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Owned an 18' center console once. Nice ride. I've run tillers, dual consoles with bubble windshields, walk throughs, and single consoles. All had advantages and disadvantages depending on what a person is looking for.
The new Skeeter is a study in compromise. It's a nice ride. I don't care for the front deck, or the layout of the rear deck, but that's me. I like my big decks, personal preference.
I'm picking up a new 1890 DCG in a couple weeks. I like that boat allot, but again, that's me. Look at Warrior when they begin building again, look at the new Yar Crafts (Cory does a nice job on those boats), look at the new models from all the builders....everyone has improved the build process immensely over the last couple years. Make your own mind up after re-educating yourself as to what the regionals are building for 2012 and what the majors have to offer.
It sounds to me like an 186 Tyee GL Lund might exactly fit your needs. Nice ride at very competitive pricing.
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| Sled, I don't know anything of value about glass boats but I really like the fact that the photo shows the kids wearing pdfs, even on the trailer, on land. My guess is that that became second nature to them. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | North of 8 - 8/18/2011 7:35 PM
Sled, I don't know anything of value about glass boats but I really like the fact that the photo shows the kids wearing pdfs, even on the trailer, on land. My guess is that that became second nature to them.
these kids have been raised on the water and ice ... we take safety and survival skills very seriously. thanks for noticing. the day i saw them cut a whaler in half off the coast of florida i knew it was the boat for me. the next boat i was sold on due to the upright floatation ...
the other thing i learned is that kids are a whole lot more capable than many adults give them credit for. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | HA. Fight nice, guys.
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Location: Kodiak, AK | And I think it's different things being argued....seating in bay boats vs family comfort. Well, bay boats aren't meant to be "sat" in like in a multi-species boat. They don't have the fancy, cooshy, shock absorbing seats like muskie/walleye boats do. But that's because they're meant to be ran standing up, which is (in my opinion, having run in standing and seated boats in big water) far more comfortable and stable than sitting. With my leg as it is, I've been boat whoring all summer and seated the whole time...lemme tell ya....I'll never own a seated boat again. I feel like I can't see anything and my back, abs and kidneys take all the abuse...even in a 620.
So no, bay boats don't have carpeting, four captains chairs, arm rests and shock absorbing seat posts. But what they do have is room to stand and take the ride with your legs and whole body. Much safer and less fatiguing than sitting....again, just in my experience.
As far as windshields and such, when you're standing it suddenly becomes second nature to duck behind the single cener console when spray comes over the bow. I noticed the other day riding in a Tuffy and a then a Smoker Craft with a windshield that seated behind a walk through windshield, you just sit there and let it block the water...and you still get wet. Standing, you just naturally duck behind the console and you actually stay pretty dry. I dunno, I just find it more comfortable and dry standing in my boat than I do sitting in others.
jonnysled - 8/18/2011 6:00 PM
the one i had is pictured in the photo above on the trailer ... it's owned by jeff breidenbach now and is used on lake st. claire, mi. and hauls around a little black kid....
Here's my little black kid. He loves bay boats!
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Location: North Central IL USA | I'll take this over a storage box/cooler with a cushion on it any day!!
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Location: minocqua, wi. | you seat the tough up-north kids on the floor?, in those fancy jump-seats? or in your lap underneath the dash where they can't see anything (and neither can you)??? |
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Location: N.FIB | anybody know the weight of the 1825 skeeter,looks like a nice boat for any type of fishing,seen some decent looking triton boats for sale that look nice |
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