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Message Subject: Made in USA
JimtenHaaf
Posted 3/23/2011 4:02 PM (#488490 - in reply to #488462)
Subject: RE: Made in USA





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Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Guest - 3/23/2011 1:32 PM

Bondy Baits are poured in Canada, with all the parts from the US, including the packaging. No overseas production.


I listed Bondy Baits first, but pulled it off. It's American, (North American) but struggled with keeping it, since the thread said USA. Awesome bait, nonetheless, and Jon is terrific to deal with.
Madmanmusky
Posted 3/23/2011 5:42 PM (#488495 - in reply to #488490)
Subject: RE: Made in USA




Posts: 344


Location: Musky Country
Musky Mayhem Tackle
Made in the USA
Phil
Posted 3/24/2011 12:05 PM (#488643 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: RE: Made in USA


Sledgehammer Lures
New Ace Hammerglides
Bodies made in Chicago, Paint by Cordell, Split Rings by Worth, Hooks by Eagle Claw and the box is made in the US too!
catchandrelease
Posted 3/24/2011 12:21 PM (#488652 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA




Geez, I didn't even think about packaging. I'm glad to see there are still some things made in the US. I'd like to buy some stuff that is exclusively made here, not to discredit any manufacturers that make products outside of the country
MUSKYLUND1
Posted 3/24/2011 12:26 PM (#488654 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA




Posts: 203


Location: Germantown, WI
According to their website, all of Drifter Tackle's products are made by Drifter in the USA. The have a manufacturing plant in Toledo, OH.
psv
Posted 3/24/2011 12:56 PM (#488664 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA




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Location: MN

Still is not clear to me:

If some of the components are made outside of USA, but all the work are done in USA, Should the final product be considered as made in USA or what will be the best definition for such scenario ?

catchandrelease
Posted 3/24/2011 2:18 PM (#488679 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA




I would say no. I'd consider those Assembled in USA.
psv
Posted 3/24/2011 4:00 PM (#488691 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: RE: Made in USA




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Location: MN

catchandrelease

I don't agree with "assembled in USA"

I do all work here in USA from scratch: melt lead, make my own heads, paint and clear coat them, tied my own custom skirts, etc. Basically, I do full production cycle and only few of the used components are made somewhere else. It seems to me it's just more then assembling. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tackle Industries
Posted 3/24/2011 4:04 PM (#488692 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA





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Location: Land of the Musky
psv, From my research on the subject a "widget" has to have "all or substantially all" of its components made in the USA and be assembled in the USA to carry that designation. Funny though as the FTC does not define the % needed to qualify. Sometimes you will see "Assembled in the USA" and most likely what that means is that parts were imported into the USA and final assembly here. In the past I knew of a few companies that actually import lures and then repackage in the USA. Over the last few years I have seen those companies put Made In China on the labels now. The FTC can levy heavy fines that woudl easily put a musky lure company out of business so I think most follow the rules today.
psv
Posted 3/24/2011 4:41 PM (#488701 - in reply to #488692)
Subject: Re: Made in USA




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Location: MN

Tackle Industries - 3/24/2011 5:04 PM psv, From my research on the subject a "widget" has to have "all or substantially all" of its components made in the USA and be assembled in the USA to carry that designation. Funny though as the FTC does not define the % needed to qualify.

James,

Thank you for your input. This is exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Where is the deadline between made in USA, assembled in USA, made in USA (some imported components) ???

I use Mustad as a main hook and some of the 3D eyes from Thailand. They simply are the best match (I did try a lot of staff before I stick with those 2) for my spinnerbaits. Rest of the components are from well known USA companies. Can I identify my product as Made i USA ?  I even more confused now :))))

 

MRichardson
Posted 3/24/2011 5:08 PM (#488704 - in reply to #488701)
Subject: Re: Made in USA





PSV In my opinion yes you qualify and fall into the “substantially all” category.  It’s nearly impossible to claim something is 100% made here if you look deep enough.  For example, if you look a little further into what I do you’ll find that the design software is from a French company, the computer used for design is a Dell with components from all over the world, the CNC machine for prototyping and mold-making  is German, the molding press is Japanese, the ABS plastic is made here but with chemicals from throughout the world.  The equipment and supplies used for painting are a mixed bag as well.  Then I drive my American car (ahem…) to drop off the baits for shipping.  

Tackle Industries
Posted 3/24/2011 6:07 PM (#488717 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA





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Location: Land of the Musky
I would agree with “substantially all” for you too psv. To me its more of an ethics question. If you can look at what you buy and its 80%+ COGS based on items made in the USA then you should not worry too much. I have heard of products with only 60% of the components made in the USA and they still can designate made in the USA but IMO that is getting pretty bad. The Made in the USA designation should be an honored stamp and respected. Fine if you want to make items out of the country but IMO props need to be given for those who keep the production here and can keep their business profitable.
Guest
Posted 3/24/2011 9:19 PM (#488764 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: RE: Made in USA


My Ford is made in the USA from Mexican parts.
psv
Posted 3/24/2011 9:28 PM (#488765 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA




Posts: 469


Location: MN
Mike, James, catchandrelease
Thank you for your comments. I appreciate it
muddymusky
Posted 3/24/2011 9:40 PM (#488768 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: RE: Made in USA




Posts: 569


"Made in USA" Great thread! I try to buy as much as I can Made in the USA and Canada too. North American Made?
Killerbug
Posted 3/25/2011 3:00 AM (#488784 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA





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Location: Denmark
I would like to ad Spanky baits, and Jeff Boggs soft plastic to the list.
allegheny river kid
Posted 3/25/2011 7:30 PM (#488940 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA




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Location: Sw Pennsylvania
Grandmas, baker baits, b&m crankbaits, Mr. Toothy lures, tuff shads and musky train lures just to add a few more.
Guest
Posted 3/26/2011 12:15 AM (#488987 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: RE: Made in USA



Rad Dog Lures, Wade's Wobblers, Mayhem Lures, Red October, Suick, Fudally (Reef Hawg), Lee Lures, Windel's (Harasser bucktails), Drifter, ERC, Mouldy's,
Moore's Lures, Glittertail, Shumway Lures.

I'm sure there are many more, more were mentioned. I tend to only buy muskie lures made in USA and have some from all of above.

JS

karol
Posted 3/26/2011 6:39 AM (#489007 - in reply to #488987)
Subject: RE: Made in USA




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Location: nappanee IN
www.hoosierhandmademuskybaits.com right here in indiana, awesome baits. made by a hoosier, can't be more american than that!!
CustomSpinners
Posted 3/27/2011 2:09 PM (#489268 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA





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Location: La Crosse, WI
Custom Spinners Unlimited bucktails and arms are all made in USA with nearly every part also being made here in IL, WI, or MN. Even most of my swimbaits I sell are made in CA.
scavenger
Posted 3/30/2011 2:13 PM (#489802 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA




Posts: 53


Location: Mn
Muskie Solutions - Twisted Sucker
bigroo
Posted 3/30/2011 2:41 PM (#489806 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA





Posts: 60


Location: Poca, West Virginia
West Virginia Baits : Amma Bamma, Cobb, Big Chimney, Crane and there are many others in West Virginia who make baits.
edalz
Posted 3/30/2011 4:49 PM (#489819 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA





Posts: 458


Avet reels (look at that a reel made in America) and most of the St. Croix rods.
Paul
Posted 8/23/2012 10:59 PM (#580536 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: RE: Made in USA


Mantas are made in the USA.So are Super Slayer lures.
matt1985
Posted 8/23/2012 11:11 PM (#580539 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA




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Slammers are all made im the usa including the plastic molding
muskysuperpro
Posted 8/23/2012 11:47 PM (#580543 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: RE: Made in USA


concern the musky lures i think it's safe to say more than 80% of them are made in usa,for bass lures it's probably 20% such a big contrast.anyway usa don't mean better lure.look at the musky innovation co for example they made good lure that catch almost every giant year after year........
Killerbug
Posted 8/24/2012 2:19 AM (#580548 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: Re: Made in USA





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Location: Denmark
Mysky Innovations new breed of Bulldawgs, are now made in the USA
muskysuperpro
Posted 8/24/2012 5:26 AM (#580553 - in reply to #488272)
Subject: RE: Made in USA


i think you don't get the point.......
gordonmann69
Posted 8/24/2012 8:57 PM (#580703 - in reply to #488495)
Subject: RE: Made in USA




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Madmanmusky - 3/23/2011 5:42 PM

Musky Mayhem Tackle
Made in the USA


Heard their skirts are tied in Haiti and then shipped to the USA. Does that still count as made in the USA. Maybe so since skirts are a small part of the entire lure?
Killerbug
Posted 8/25/2012 2:41 AM (#580739 - in reply to #580553)
Subject: RE: Made in USA





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Location: Denmark
muskysuperpro - 8/24/2012 5:26 AM

i think you don't get the point.......


The MI Buldawgs are now being poured in the US, and has been redesigned.
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