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big gun
Posted 2/5/2010 8:03 AM (#421832 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




Posts: 462


Location: Madison Wi. Chain
I have recently started a core body workout system. PM me for more information. It is the best program for strength, stamina and longevity I ever experienced. BG
AFchris
Posted 2/5/2010 8:09 AM (#421834 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: Re: Fitness question





Posts: 265


Location: McGuire AFB, NJ
Jim, I like that hand strech! I'm always running/working out. I like it, plus I do really think it helps with fishing. I can fish my @ss off for days on end. NOT TO MENTION THE HEALTH BENEFITS! It not only gives me indurance but a mental edge.

I used to wrench on jets everyday and when I fish pretty hard for days the only thing that really every seems to get me is my hands.

A little thing we go by in the Air Force is "work smarter...not harder" With the emergence of longer rods and better reels you can toss those bigger baits all day with little or no effort. Take a good look at your equipment, is it effecient? Are you working harder than you have to?
dougj
Posted 2/5/2010 8:36 AM (#421839 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: RE: Fitness question





Posts: 906


Location: Warroad, Mn

I'm now 71 years old.

Here's what I do. I simply go fishing every day. Keeps all the muscle groups you need for fishing in shape just by going fishing. I never seem to hurt anywhere, and pull DCGs and twitch 10" Jakes for months at a time.

I'm in Tennessee right now and fishing away!

Doug Johnson

Top H2O
Posted 2/5/2010 8:59 AM (#421845 - in reply to #421839)
Subject: RE: Fitness question




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
Doug,
I think your living my dream and most of the others on this board... God Bless
you.

Jerome
BenR
Posted 2/5/2010 8:59 AM (#421846 - in reply to #421822)
Subject: Re: Fitness question


CiscoKid - 2/5/2010 5:59 AM

BenR - 2/4/2010 11:09 PM
I also had back surgery 9 years ago and realized it was much better to be in shape, than out of shape...BR


Ben now I get why you think it is easy...as you are in shape!

I think those that are not wanting to listen to those of us who have experienced the pain are foolish. IT WILL HAPPEN. EA mentiones getting older and seeing issues. Heck I am only 33 and am going through quite a bit right now in the way of muscle issues. That is coming from someone that was in pretty good shape due to the sports I was in, and only being anywhere from 5.5-8% body fat. I thought I was invincible, and that nothing would happen to me. My issue was I slowly phased out of sports, did nothing in the off seasons, and pushed my body too far during the season with 20+ hour days. Also the repetative motion we go through as fisher people, and my dailey job (office) all accumulated up to big big mess.

I know some here are responding to keep things light and funny, but sitting here in my shoes I am not seeing it as such. I don't wish my issues upon anyone including my worse enemies. The question was asked on what muscle groups to address to stay in shape for fishing. Not whether or not a workout routine is needed for fishing, and if we should become pansies and start watching our health.

Sorry for the rant. I'll step off now.



I get it, I am 37 and had back surgery back in 2000...I just made a decision a few years ago to change my lifestyle...I got back into staying active...Living in CO helps as there are a bunch of good activities out here to keep you in shape. I will mention that due to the back issues I had I worked with a Pilates instructor who was familiar with those types of injuries. It has actually transformed my body and has been the most beneficial change for me. The core and total body workout while fixing the reasons the issues came up to begin with is great...I highly recommend it....BR
dtaijo174
Posted 2/5/2010 9:12 AM (#421851 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: Re: Fitness question





Posts: 1169


Location: New Hope MN
fish4musky1,

I think we have a lot in common. Hopefully, you'll know what i haven't been able to figure out.
How do you strengthen those little muscles right between your shoulder blades? You know the ones that hurt like heck on day three from throwing DBL 10's. I can row 120lbs dumbells, hang 50 and do pull ups... but after 3 days of blades, ouch.
Thoughts?

Thanks,
Dave
CiscoKid
Posted 2/5/2010 9:49 AM (#421853 - in reply to #421851)
Subject: Re: Fitness question





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
dtaijo174 - 2/5/2010 9:12 AM
How do you strengthen those little muscles right between your shoulder blades? You know the ones that hurt like heck on day three from throwing DBL 10's. I can row 120lbs dumbells, hang 50 and do pull ups... but after 3 days of blades, ouch.
Thoughts?

Thanks,
Dave


Dave, that is part of the muscle group I am working on right now using resistance bands. Here is what I am doing. With the band around a pole or in a door at shoulder height or slightly below (while at a slight knee bent, butt out a bit, back straight position), step back until the band is stretched slightly while holding your arms straight out, palms down. Picture riding a cycle with “ape” hangers. Pull the band straight back. This shoulder bring your shoulder blades together. While maintaining the blades together “push” you hands straight down until straight at your sides. Keep those blades together, and now “push” your hands back behind you a couple of inches tensing your triceps, and hold for 3 sec. Do 10-12 reps at 2-3 sets.

The other to do is same stance, slightly closer to object holding the band, but this time your palms face in and have a slight bend at the elbow. Move arms back like you are going to fly until your hands are about even with shoulders. Your blades again should have come together or close to it. Now while keeping those blades together bring your arms back a little further and hold again for 3 sec. Same reps and sets as above.

Key is keeping blades together, proper stance, and concentrating on not letting your shoulders come up. You should feel the pull between the shoulders to about mid back. You may steel feel a bit on top of shoulders as I am, but that is not where the main focus of these exercises are intended for. To add to it you can tense your stomach the whole time, but in doing so keep breathing.

Hope it helps
Paul
Posted 2/5/2010 9:56 AM (#421855 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: RE: Fitness question


I chose to learn fishing both left and right. I had to sell most of my lefty reels after getting an elbow infury. Now that it has heeled, I still fish righties, but can switch to lefties as well. It's as though you can last twice as long. I had to train casting the other way in the winter in the driveway. In the long run, I think it will help my to stay fishing for years longer. It simply becomes not fun when you start to labour too much while fishing.
Jim Saric
Posted 2/5/2010 9:57 AM (#421856 - in reply to #421851)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




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Get one of those large exercise balls and two eight to ten pound barbells. You don't need a lot of weight for this. Lay face down with your upper chest on the ball. Stick your arms out 90 degrees from your body and let your hands fall to the floor. Grab the weights and do a reverse curl with your arms extended. The trick to this excercise is to initiate the movement with those muscles in your back first, not your arms. You have to concentrate to do this right. This excercise is also good for the shoulders since it also helps posture.

A couple other shoulder exercises I do include using one of those pieces of equipment with a pully system where you can adjust the height of the handle to pull down or up.

First stand facing the bar and set the handle up high. Extend your arm forward and keep it straight. Grab the handle and pull it down toward the side of your body. Then slowly raise and repeat. Do this 12 times and switch arms. This helps the smaller muscles in the front of the shoulder. Again the key is to focus the movement on the shoulder and not try and use your tricep to make the movement.

Now lower the bar to slightly above waist level and face sideways to the equipment. Bend your arm 90 degrees and do an outward extension from your elbow and grab the handle. Rotate your arm to your side and slowly repeat. Do this 12 time. When finished reach across and grab the handle with your other arm and to a similar but outward rotation with the other arm. Then rotate your body 180 degrees and repeat the process with both arms. This exercise will help all of the smaller muscles of the shoulder and will really help when casting.
Flambeauski
Posted 2/5/2010 3:28 PM (#421910 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




Posts: 4343


Location: Smith Creek
Get a few pounds of cookie dough and leave it out in the sun for a day. Then stick a hand mixer (electric won't work) in there and start cranking away. Double 13's will be a breeze after that.
JKahler
Posted 2/5/2010 3:49 PM (#421917 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




Posts: 1293


Location: WI
What gets me is wrist and hand pain. I have tendonitis in both hands from my job. Lifting 240,000 cases of pop every year doesn't help any, especially when I throw DCG's a lot.

I do a lot of stretching and icing. I also don't fish marathon days. I have the luxury of being half a mile from my favorite lake and can just go home and take a break for a few hours and then go back out in the late afternoon.

When I'm all burnt out I troll.
esoxaddict
Posted 2/5/2010 4:09 PM (#421920 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: Re: Fitness question





Posts: 8797


JKahler, I worked on cars for many years, turning wrences and oil filters, etc. Add that to decades of playing guitar and piano, and 12 years with my hand on a computer mouse all day. I'm the poster child for RSI...

Like others have mentioned, I learned to fish left handed. We've all fished spinning gear most of our lives, so it's not as difficult as one would imagine. Being able to switch hands helps a LOT. One thing I have yet to do is reverse my casting when reeling with my right hand i.e. casting over your left shoulder and not switching halds like many anglers do. That's my project for this season, is to become completely ambidextrous with my fishing, and to continue getting comfortable working a variety of lures with either hand.

I think we all want to be Doug J when we grow up, because the best workout for fishing is fishing!
baldeaglefisherman
Posted 2/5/2010 5:29 PM (#421938 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




Posts: 250


Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Yeah i dont think you got to workout to hard to muskie fish. Ive never really been too sore after a day of fishing.But it is a good idea to workout. I usually just run and do crunches and pullups.
MuskyFlyGuy
Posted 2/9/2010 12:50 PM (#422648 - in reply to #421938)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




Posts: 275


Thanks to everyone for the answers and ideas.

Tom
MuskyMATT7
Posted 2/10/2010 10:40 AM (#422842 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: Re: Fitness question





Posts: 553


Location: 15 miles east of Lake Kinkaid
Many great answers on the site... I have always believed working out has gave me a mental and physical "edge" over people who are not in shape. When I began musky fishing 3 of the first 6 were caught after fishing for 10 hours plus (and not sleeping the night before). Twice I caught fish while my partner was resting because he was "tired" or "taking a break". I attribute this partly to being in good physical condition, as well as having a never-say-die mentality.
Also, others mentioned they have never gotten tired at all after or during musky fishing....I wish I could relate. I am guessing these folks have never put in 12-15 hour days throwing pounders, burning DCGs, burning Super Models, or ripping 10" Jakes? Certainly pulling a 8 or 9" Suick or slow reeling a Mepps Marabou for a day is easier on the wrists, hands, shoulders, triceps, biceps, and core than the previously mentioned techniques. Anyone who says otherwise is superman.... But being in good shape allows for the endurance, strength, and mental toughness needed to withstand these long days, as well as being able to wake up the next day at 4am and do it all over again.

Edited by MuskyMATT7 2/10/2010 10:49 AM
Mr Musky
Posted 2/10/2010 10:54 AM (#422846 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: Re: Fitness question





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I used to palm my reels and after 10 hours my wrist hurt so bad that I could hardly stand to fish any longer. Last year I went to a 700TE which palming was out of the question for my smaller hands so that forced me to get used to using the foregrip. It took a weekend to get used to but now I have absolutley no pain after a 10 to 15 hour day.
Grass
Posted 2/10/2010 12:00 PM (#422866 - in reply to #422846)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




Posts: 620


Location: Seymour, WI
I agree with Mr. Musky. Holding the rod by the fore grip instead of palming the reel is much easier on your wrists and puts you in a much stronger position to make good figure 8's and hook sets.

EthanPayne
Posted 12/12/2020 7:12 AM (#972567 - in reply to #421656)
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Posts: 2


Do steroids help with working out?
ToddM
Posted 12/12/2020 10:31 AM (#972569 - in reply to #972567)
Subject: Re: Fitness question





Posts: 20231


Location: oswego, il
EthanPayne - 12/12/2020 7:12 AM

Do steroids help with working out?


Yes but then your 50 isn't legit. I also would not want to see your mood swings when you lose one which everyone on the water will.

Edited by ToddM 12/12/2020 10:32 AM
chuckski
Posted 12/12/2020 4:27 PM (#972581 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




Posts: 1462


Location: Brighton CO.
Almost seven years ago I had a bad fall at work and hit my head sold my bench press, squat racks , 50 pound plates. Been replaced with tubes and bands and push ups lots of core work and some yoga and I walk. Started off with lots of high reps with light weight all these years later lots of reps with fairly heavy resistance I am as strong as ever at 60 years old.
I do have a bow flex but use it for mostly pull ups, bar dips and leg extendsions.
Top H2O
Posted 12/12/2020 5:29 PM (#972582 - in reply to #972581)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
12 0z. curls for me boys.... And I'll still keep up ! Work smart, not hard !
hawkeye9
Posted 12/15/2020 1:15 PM (#972669 - in reply to #421656)
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Posts: 426


Location: Perryville, MO
Ok, I'm aware its officially winternet time...but I now know for certain that things have indeed changed around here as of late. A 10 year old thread gets "drug" up and this is the question? And guys that have been around forever actually answer!? Nothing left to discuss?

Edited by hawkeye9 12/15/2020 1:16 PM
ToddM
Posted 12/15/2020 11:44 PM (#972689 - in reply to #972669)
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Posts: 20231


Location: oswego, il
hawkeye9 - 12/15/2020 1:15 PM

Ok, I'm aware its officially winternet time...but I now know for certain that things have indeed changed around here as of late. A 10 year old thread gets "drug" up and this is the question? And guys that have been around forever actually answer!? Nothing left to discuss?


What would be the appropriate response to steroids?
esoxaddict
Posted 12/16/2020 12:05 PM (#972700 - in reply to #972689)
Subject: Re: Fitness question





Posts: 8797


It's a natural progression we all go through...

Year 1-3: How do I catch a muskie? What lures do I need?
Year 4-6: How do I catch a lot of muskies? What lures do I need?
Year 7-10: How do I catch big muskies? What lures do I need?
Year 11: Ow, my _____ hurts...
Year 12-14: Ow, now my _____ hurts too...
Year 15: What can I buy/do/take to help me make it through a week in Canada without my _____ hurting? What lures can I get rid of?
Year 17: What can I do to make it through a day without my _____ hurting? What lures can I get rid of?
Year 20: Okay, what can I do during the off season to make sure I can go out there next year and still be able to do this at all?
Year 25: I gotta start trolling... What lures do I need?
IAJustin
Posted 12/16/2020 12:35 PM (#972702 - in reply to #421656)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




Posts: 2030


steroids' nah...HGH is the way to being a better muskie fisherman!!! ... proven to be effective taking down old records! Hit the HGH boys so we can get rid of the Spray record for good!
ToddM
Posted 12/16/2020 2:17 PM (#972704 - in reply to #421656)
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Posts: 20231


Location: oswego, il
EA that's brilliant!

IA good luck it needs to be big enough to disqualify the Hayward library photo calipers. If not have someone check them out and not return them.

Edited by ToddM 12/16/2020 2:19 PM
North of 8
Posted 12/16/2020 2:22 PM (#972705 - in reply to #972702)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




HGH? Don't know about that. Last big public event I went to was the Wausau Musky Show right before everything shut down and by the size of the average show attendee, I would say the favored chemical body enhancers among that group come from McDonalds, Culvers and Budweiser.
RLSea
Posted 12/16/2020 9:01 PM (#972716 - in reply to #972700)
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Posts: 493


Location: Northern Illinois
esoxaddict - 12/16/2020 12:05 PM

It's a natural progression we all go through...

Year 1-3: How do I catch a muskie? What lures do I need?
Year 4-6: How do I catch a lot of muskies? What lures do I need?
Year 7-10: How do I catch big muskies? What lures do I need?
Year 11: Ow, my _____ hurts...
Year 12-14: Ow, now my _____ hurts too...
Year 15: What can I buy/do/take to help me make it through a week in Canada without my _____ hurting? What lures can I get rid of?
Year 17: What can I do to make it through a day without my _____ hurting? What lures can I get rid of?
Year 20: Okay, what can I do during the off season to make sure I can go out there next year and still be able to do this at all?
Year 25: I gotta start trolling... What lures do I need?


This cracks me up because it is so true!
hawkeye9
Posted 12/17/2020 9:58 AM (#972726 - in reply to #972689)
Subject: Re: Fitness question




Posts: 426


Location: Perryville, MO
ToddM - 12/15/2020 11:44 PM

What would be the appropriate response to steroids?


Not a good enough presentation, Todd, to get me to bite.

But what EA said is the sort of stuff that I've grown accustom to expecting from you guys. Thoughtful and often hilarious. Thanks.

Edited by hawkeye9 12/17/2020 9:59 AM
hawkeye9
Posted 12/17/2020 10:01 AM (#972727 - in reply to #972704)
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Posts: 426


Location: Perryville, MO
ToddM - 12/16/2020 2:17 PM

IA good luck it needs to be big enough to disqualify the Hayward library photo calipers. If not have someone check them out and not return them.


Like that!
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