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Location: Minneapolis, MN | I could be wrong but I don't think this thread was about the Lax contest. It wasn't mentioned until about 24 posts in. |
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| Apply it to deer hunting. You hunt an area of public land that gives you an opportunity every year at a trophy buck. You tell a buddy about it who then goes and tells his brother in law, etc. The next opening morning you get to this spot and you see your buddy's brother in law hunkered down where you have hunted for years. Do you just shrug it off or do you get kinda ticked off that he is there? Is it different if there is just some random Joe Schmoe who happened to stumble on this area than it is if your info shared with your buddy directly leads to someone jumping in there on you? Just a different flavor of gristle to chew on with this one...
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Location: Algonquin, ILL | Many times Lake "X" is fairly easy to identify, all you have to do is pay attention and you should be able to put the puzzle together
For example Sworrall wrote "Lake X is actually in Canada. I'm there now", knowing Steve's history and some of his habit's in addition to reading some past posts & Current it's safe to assume that he is not on Lake "X" but most likley Lake"W"
As for ToddM, Just by reading some of his past posts he clearly mentions where he fishes when in N.Wisc or MN so no suprises there.
The same will hold true for most everyone who posts on a regular basis at one point or another they will give away their secret lake "X" they may not know or realize that they did it at the time, it's your job to decipher the clues
Now Lake "J" and it's Bass are waiting for me 
Edited by JohnMD 7/1/2008 3:01 PM
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| Instead of posting Lake X I suggest everybody just pick a random lake and flat out lie, then nobody will ever know, end of this argument.
I catch all of my muskies at Big Creek on a black bucktail in the Narrows.
See? That simple. |
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Location: Musky Country | Fine,
Lake X = Miltona For Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Location: north central wisconsin | If you have a place that receives very little pressure, you have a good big fish ratio going, and you decide to go public about this place, you're darn right it is going to receive more pressure, and that ratio will suffer as a result. Happens all the time, unless it is so remote that people just cannot afford/find the place. I used to post pics of fish on threads with lake x and would get publicly and privately berated for doing so, and haven't posted pics on threads for a long time as a result. I just choose to share via email with my close friends and family anyhow. I love to help and be helped on these boards, but rather stick to the hows and whats and even some where's when it doesn't bother me or a friend.
Friend put me on a good one the other day, and while I'd love to go back with another friend or my wife, I won't, unless I run it by him first. He'll get to learn a few of the spots I like to fish. Pretty neat system. Unfortunately it doesn't suit everyone.
Guiding is different. If I charge you, feel free to go back to wherever you are taken. I think many guids have mentioned this before. Heck post an invite, maybe John G. will bring some Pabst and Johnsonvilles...
Edited by Reef Hawg 7/1/2008 6:35 PM
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| Lake X is absolutley the responsible thing to do. Even when the lake in question isn't a lake X I would rather not see it named. The metro thread right now has a fairly detailed report from a popular lake. Plenty of anglers have been looking for an excuse to get out on that lake and that report will be just the encouragement they need. I wouldn't touch that lake with a ten foot pole this weekend due to alcohol and boat usage by the 4th of July party goers but you can bet it is going to be absolutely packed with anglers. Using lake X in that instant would have kept the pressure to a manageable level but forget it now. |
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| what's the difference on what lake it's caught on..if you knew would you go fish there? Probably not...although these days who knows. Is there anyone left that doesn't make a crowd? |
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| Stinger, I didn't know this thread was about the contest when I posted. If it is about the contest, I certainly understand the "lake x" thing and as has been stated, it's a good thing that "lake x" is allowed to encourage the pics and the free flow of info. There are lots and lots of examples of fishing pressure having an adverse effect on certain bodies of water, and if you catch a good one on a smaller lake, I think the responsible thing to do is ID it as "lake x" to the internet masses.....
Edited by Matt DeVos 7/1/2008 5:02 PM
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Location: Lake Tomahawk, WI | I've posted on this subject before, so I'll keep it short, plus several others have echoed my setiment.
Someone posted: Well, why post the pictures at all, for a pat on the back?
We post pictures and never name lakes. These 200 acre lakes don't need internet publicity. Feel free to do your own homework, endure countless fruitless hours and headaches and you'll be well rewarded.
While we never name names, we do post in-depth fishing reports including time of day, depths, structure, lure types and colors, etc.
Enjoy the pics and videos, filmed exclusively on Lake X, and have a great season.
Almost forgot, please send beer instead of 'pats on the back'.
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| jason bomber: i don't give lake names out, but not because of ego. why? the few times i get out over a season are MUCH more enjoyable when i don't have to fight 15 other boats for a spot on a 300 acre lake. and reef hawg, you hit it right on the head, amen brother! to those who do post with 'lake x' because they like 'the tease', grow up... btw, if anyone want's to share some small lakes in vilas/oneida where i have a shot at catching some skis (any size) with virtually no boat traffic, email me, i'd be very appreciative. catching's great, but being able to enjoy the fishing is where it's at... thanks
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| esox69........
"i don't give lake names out, but not because of ego. why? the few times i get out over a season are MUCH more enjoyable when i don't have to fight 15 other boats for a spot on a 300 acre lake."
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I wasn't accusing people of having egos cause they wont name their lake. I was trying to point out that most of the pics would not even be posted if not for the contest. They are not posting them to show off...................... they are posting them for a free chance at a replica.
If I had a smaller lake that I was left alone at I surely wouldn't advertise online.
Lake X can easily turn into lake Wingra with a few pics online. Ever been on this 300 acre pond without boats from other states? RARELY Not complaining, I dont realy like Wingra anyway.
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| I'm with Jsloan on this one...it's probably why I get a kick out of a lot of posts on here..after taking an older friend his wife and kids fishing last night out on my lake I took into consideration a lot of other peoples views on catching fish just by discussing trolling, guiding, and musky fishing in general and where you catch the fish. He wanted to troll(where we were), I almost blew him out of his own boat! I explained how I would never take pride in following the rat race out to green bay, trolling, and boating my personal best..all in all I learned what I was told..pretty lucky to grow up where I am with what I've got...with way more chances to fish, way more lakes to fish, and lots of fishing friends to go with..a lot of people don't have that and don't care what they do to have to catch a musky as long as they get it. |
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| I went way off course with why I agreed with Jsloan there lol...here's why. Feel free to do your own homework, endure countless fruitless hours and headaches and you'll be well rewarded.
No reason to explain that any further |
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| I can agree to some extent that additional pressure on a lake can be the result of divulging that you caught a fishe there, but at least I would like to beleive not to the extreme that some have expressed here. Typically speaking, musky are HUNTED in larger bodies of water, around structure that is unforseen in any picture, and most landmarks arerelatively invalid as you have long drifted off the structure by the time you land, unhoook, measure and photgraph the fish. It's not like we are sitting on the bank of a 30 acre pond with a nightcrawler here. The patterns change daily, the fish activity changes hourly, the structure the fish are working changes as often and only someone who knows what they are doing on a particular body of water will have any kind of calculated success. Not to mention that this site covers a multi state region. I don;t know about any of you, but I live in Chicago, and seeing a picture of a 45" musky caught on say the Madison chain, gets me excited, but has never prompted me to pack the boat, program the GPS and head out there. Sure there are always guys that will ride the coattails of the better fishermen, and sure they get lucky, but a couple of boats bumbling around out in the middle of the lake because someone posted a picture with that area in the background makes me laugh more than feel threatened. On the other hand, there is a site locally here called Chicagoland fishing that I subscribe to that is another story, it is all local and typically geared toward smaller lakes and rivers with a fair amount of Lake Michigan Salmon and Perch thrown in. I have seen posts of areas on the river that are my "honeyholes" for smallmouth. Understanding that they are not eclusive to me, after someone posts a picture of a nice 3 or 4 pound smallmouth they caught and the background is obvious to anyone that would go there, you can rest assured that the next day will bring a couple of guys with 5 gallon buckets filling them with smallies. So, there I would never disclose any details, but here I am perfectly comfortable posting pictures and naming the lake. All I need now is to catch a picture worthy fish this year. Makes it tough when you have to trade in the boat for a newborn. Some economy we have, thanks George. |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | I'm not usually one to give out secrets, but here goes...
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Hahaha, very nice Sorno! |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | Just ask guys like Tony Grant how well it is liked when you go out of your way to mention lake names. He is not doing it on the internet (anymore at least), but just the same he is not very well liked by the locals in Vilas from what I have heard.
People definitely target lakes that get mentioned when a nice fish picture shows up from it. Like others have mentioned it makes for a quick bite killer on that lake.
No need to mention lake names, especially the smaller ones. |
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| at what point is "Lake X" no longer "secret"?
is there a point at which it becomes acceptable to name names?
what factors do you consider when making that decision for yourself?
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Location: WI | I'm not sure "lake x" is ever secret........it just doesn't need to be splashed all over the internet to where it was caught.
If you do your homework looking at stocking reports, dnr information, etc. you will always find the lakes that have muskies in them.
I think most larger bodies of waters are acceptable to name.
I will always respect a lake that someone else has shown me or told me about and I expect the same. I'm not fanatical about it, and will share with a lot of people if I've had success on most of the lakes that I have tried myself. Although, I highly doubt I will ever post it on the internet.
i think it is fun trying out a new lake and attempting to "figure it out". Sometimes it is a bust and sometimes its a jewel.
GotOne
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| I KNOW THAT SPOT SORNO!!!
ALL YOUR FISH ARE BELONG TO ME!! |
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Location: where the fish are... | plain and simple, people who dont catch fish and troll these sights looking to find out where fish are being caught can sit and complain. The people who catch the big fish and post them as lake x good for them. They seem to have thought outside the box and did their own research. I say if you want to internet fish then do it but dont complain when people catch more fish then you do. This to me is a ridiculous thread aimed at trying to get people to give up their spots they work hard for. If you found a way to make a million dollars a year and if you told people how to do it and it would affect you making that million a year would you do it? Think of it that way, or hit some waters and not the keyboard. |
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| MuskieTom - 7/3/2008 12:15 AM
If you found a way to make a million dollars a year and if you told people how to do it and it would affect you making that million a year would you do it? Think of it that way, or hit some waters and not the keyboard.
Reminds me of something a buddy of mine did in the early days of the internet. He built a webpage that simply said; "Mail 10 dollars to the address below to earn a quick buck." Put it up as a joke/class project. About a month later he gets an envelope in the mail with 10 bucks in it and a note asking how to make this quick buck. So my buddy sends him a letter back that simply said; "Create website asking morons to send you 10 bucks to learn how to make money. Wait for the idiots to send you mail, cash the check or deposit the cash. Send a note back to them telling them they are stupid. Say the following sentence three times while looking in a mirror; 'I AM STUPID.' Sincerely, Ben"
Ended up making over 200 bucks off of that thing.
Carry on with the normal conversation.... |
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I've posted about very few fish I've caught on the internet, usually there's some unique story etc. about a fish if I do.
I've never said where I caught them. I've always said how and "why" I caught them.
That's the info people should care about. Learning how to catch fish will help you more than knowing where fish are being caught.
There's a lot more satisfaction to finding your lake X than going to somebody elses.
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| Pictures of fish and how they were caught and on what are all I need to know. I'm not going to get up and run to a lake just because someone caught a big fish on it.
This has been beat to death many times, and the outcome always seems to be the same. If you want to mention the lake, it's your business. If you don't, I don't care, that's your business. I will lose no respect for someone catching a fish on Lake X, but will give him a pat on the back just like anyone else who catches a nice fish. We all look for a little peace and seclusion when we are on the water, and it is true that guys visit many sites to find the name of a hot lake so they can hit it. I don't think any less of anyone who won't give out the name of their Lake X. The photoshop stuff bugs me only because it screws up a good picture, but if it's going to give away your secret spot on the spot, then have at it. All this talk about looking for gratification is crap. Most guys on this site have been poting pictures and giving reports about fish that they have caught since this site was up. They aren't looking for gratification, they are sharing with the group.
I don't post any pictures because I don't catch any fish....or do I?
Some times I think that we really go out of our way to find stuff to squawk about.
Whether it's Lake X, Lake Y or PEWAUKEE LAKE WHERE MIKE KOEPP CAUGHT TEN FISH IN ONE TRIP TROLLING OUTSIDE THE WEEDS....it's up to the perso who caught the fish to do what they want to do, and we don't have the right to question their decision. BTW Capt., outstanding feat.
If you don't like it, don't read the post. This is like Playboy. I just come here for the picture and the articles. I don't care where the bunnies come from because I'm not going to catch one even if you give me her address.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | BWHAHAHAHAHA....OUTSTANDING post, Beav!
I wouldn't argue your last sentence , that's for sure. Us Walking Bulls ain't in no hurry to run all over the place anyhow, for the reasons you posted and more.
By the way, you traded a Weagle for a Perka a while back, and he LOVES that lure. it's popping lots of nice fish from him on the Goon this week. |
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| I agree--small lakes should all be lake X. many don't need any additional pressue. Locals all know them--let the others put their time in to learn them. As far as time/day/conditions/lure selection--that can all be shared as to help others know what is going on out there. Sometimes you have to put in some time and effort to be rewarded--It is much more enjoyable when you finally discover your own lake X. I have a couple that I won't share except with close friends who have shared information with me. I would never ask or expect others to share theirs with me. |
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| haha cry me a river, people spend too much time on the water learning there spots and finding what works and what doesn't too let some weekend warriors or guys that get out once a week, or once a month too blow it up.....maybe the lakes private?...every fish i catch is on lake x or maybe even the mississippi river....if you dont like it, go out and find your own lake x and post pics....buncha babys |
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Location: Rhinelander. | I agree! Why so secret? Its not like everyonr is going to flock to it cause one or two46 or 47 inch fish are caught there. Its nice to where these fish are coming from . I just am curious and certain from the replies that others to. .
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Location: Ft. Wayne, Indiana | I agree with bn, The word got out on Lake Webster that there was 7 adult muskies per acre and everybody and their brother started fishing it until every fish in the lake was caught several times and now it is nearly impossible to get a parking place there on a saturday morning. |
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