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Muskie Fishing -> Lures,Tackle, and Equipment -> The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?
 
Message Subject: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?
Old Guy
Posted 3/16/2008 5:31 PM (#307767 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?




Posts: 84


This is a great endeavour, thanks in advance.
I'd like to hear the sound of various bucktails being 'burned' at a high speed one would expect to use.

Edited by Old Guy 3/16/2008 5:33 PM
Pointerpride102
Posted 3/16/2008 6:34 PM (#307776 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Manta's
Beav's MegaTurd
Wabull
WA Wabull
Shallow, Depth and Top Raiders or all sizes
Krushers
d10 and d12's
and how about something like a sucker rigged on a howie rig?
knooter
Posted 3/16/2008 8:06 PM (#307785 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: RE: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?




Posts: 531


Location: Hugo, MN
I'd like to hear what it sounds like when a guy walks around the boat, drops something on the floor of the boat, turns on the trolling motor, big motor, etc. I'm not sure I need to listen to every lure's sound, but it would be neat to get an idea how different styles of baits make different sounds. I'd also like to hear comparisons between different blade sizes and styles.
Jomusky
Posted 3/17/2008 8:30 PM (#308010 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?




Posts: 1185


Location: Wishin I Was Fishin'
How about a comparison of the noises of different trolling motors.

Some studies said a trolling motor spooked study muskies.
Pikopath
Posted 3/18/2008 2:21 AM (#308067 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?




Posts: 501


Location: Norway
How about a struggling fish on the surface, or bird... hehe PETA!

Michael
kreegz
Posted 3/18/2008 3:42 AM (#308068 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?




Posts: 162


Location: East Troy, WI
comparison between all major or popular wtd lures.. 8" weagle, 10" weagle, homewrecker, doc, jackpot.

any of the swimbaits with rattles in them, jakes, believers.. any of that sort of thing would be nice to hear

nice to hear the difference in all the blades similar sized --- colorado, willow, fluted indiana, indiana, inline
The Dogger
Posted 3/18/2008 6:44 AM (#308076 - in reply to #308068)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?




Posts: 215


Location: Twin Cities
Are any of these sounds available to hear yet? I dont see any links here, and I cant seem to find any of the NEW sound files? Should I just be patient?
Dacron + Dip
Posted 3/18/2008 7:43 AM (#308084 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: RE: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?


I would also like to hear any difference between identical blades (any size+style) that are left unpainted vs. painted. I always thought painted blades ran a bit quieter. On surface baits, unpainted steel fins seem louder and crisper sounding too.
Andy
Posted 3/23/2008 4:57 PM (#309249 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: RE: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?


that's pretty crazy about the crappie jig...cool..do fish hear the same way we do? I know my dogs don't haha
sworrall
Posted 3/23/2008 7:39 PM (#309292 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
The hydrophone converts pressure waves into an electronic signal that is transmitted to the recording device, basically like a transducer.

Fish definitely 'hear' using their octavo-lateralis system. Rudimentary inner ear, air bladder, and lateral line all are used to 'process' the pressure wave for the fish. I found a great link that does a great job describing the process:
http://www.dosits.org/animals/produce/2f.htm

So I'd say the short answer is yes, they hear and no, not exactly like we do, but hear none the less.
Tackle Industries
Posted 3/23/2008 7:50 PM (#309295 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: RE: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
I would like ot hear one of my SuperDs to see if that rattle actually makes any noise under water...
sworrall
Posted 3/23/2008 7:59 PM (#309296 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Send me the lures you want recorded, and I'll post an Aqua Vu underwater video in color combined with an above the water video in color with the hydrophone audio track. Basically, the lures entire 'footprint'. You can use the embed code from upload.outdoorsfirst.com to post the clip anywhere.
muskydeceiver
Posted 4/9/2008 10:18 AM (#312431 - in reply to #309296)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





When do we get to see some of the results? I would like to hear the difference in bucktail combonations as well. Single blade vs. double blade vs. hammered vs. indiana etc etc...........
esoxaddict
Posted 4/9/2008 11:17 AM (#312442 - in reply to #307449)
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I'd expect it would be easier to do this after the ice melts.
sworrall
Posted 4/9/2008 5:28 PM (#312524 - in reply to #312442)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Norm and I will be getting to the Pool at Holiday Acres as soon as I can get a couple hours free time and record a few.
muskydeceiver
Posted 4/9/2008 6:42 PM (#312535 - in reply to #312442)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





esoxaddict - 4/9/2008 11:17 AM

I'd expect it would be easier to do this after the ice melts.


I assumed they were doing it in a pool since that is where the other tests were done. Do the indoor pools freeze in Wisconsin as well???????
sworrall
Posted 4/9/2008 6:49 PM (#312538 - in reply to #312535)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Some days they do...Spring looks like a long way off yet. BIG storm coming here this Friday...
Almost-B-Good
Posted 4/9/2008 9:35 PM (#312568 - in reply to #312538)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?




Posts: 433


Location: Cedarburg, Wisconsin
Later on when the water is more liquid, I'd like to hear the difference between a boat moving at 3-4mph powered by the big motor vs the boat powered by the kicker at the same speed. Often wondered why it seemed sometimes fish hit with one sound and not the other.
sworrall
Posted 4/9/2008 9:37 PM (#312569 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I can do that...
mikie
Posted 4/11/2008 2:35 PM (#312847 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Location: Athens, Ohio
No one has mentioned a rattle trap? I wonder if there is a difference in sound between the Bill Lewis 'trap and the Producer Tackle rattlin shad? And, of couse, I'd have to request a Sledge in action. thanks, Steve! m
sworrall
Posted 4/11/2008 10:18 PM (#312898 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
If I can get someone to lend me those lures, I'll sure run them through the test.
muskydope
Posted 4/11/2008 11:30 PM (#312907 - in reply to #312898)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Posts: 271


Location: davis,IL
Hate to be a pain Steve, but I, and many others I'm sure, would love to hear some of the bucktails. When I really got into Muskies, 30 some years ago as a kid, the #5 Mepps was top dog. Nowdays #10 blades seem to rule the roost, I've read about the deep thump of these blades, but I still wonder, are they that different in sound or is it just they move more water. Since most of us throw these fairly consistantly I would think this is a high priority on our list of lures to "hear". I know you have an endless list to test ( I read through the blog regularly). But help us poor bucktail guys out and answer this simple question! I'm really dying to "hear the difference"!
Thanks, from a confused fisherman.
sworrall
Posted 4/11/2008 11:43 PM (#312910 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I will definitely do that
muskydope
Posted 4/12/2008 1:12 AM (#312915 - in reply to #312910)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Posts: 271


Location: davis,IL
Cool, very Cool!
Thanks, Steve.
sworrall
Posted 4/12/2008 1:00 PM (#312959 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Another thing on-the-water testing will do is indicate what the electric motor sounds like, water slapping on the hull, noise from the anglers and sonars, and more.
FishingFool
Posted 4/12/2008 1:41 PM (#312965 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: RE: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?




Location: Eau Claire,WI
Steve,PM me your address and I will get you some lures to test,I hope you can get them back to me by June. Thanks,Paul
muskysarge
Posted 4/12/2008 8:32 PM (#313013 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?




Posts: 62


Location: chicago
Steve, I remember seeing you about 7 years ago at Cave Run when you first did that.Funny how we thought 1 colorado would make a difference. What about speakers from a stereo on the boat. Would love to know if rockin on the boat would be dentrimental to spookin them.
esox69
Posted 4/13/2008 12:58 PM (#313115 - in reply to #313013)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?




Posts: 802


what about a rigged sucker, with and without a spinner/tailgunner?
sworrall
Posted 4/13/2008 1:18 PM (#313118 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I can do that too! We for sure will get under the water video of a sucker getting hit, and the audio will be from the hydrophone..should be interesting.
Slime King
Posted 4/14/2008 7:17 AM (#313227 - in reply to #307449)
Subject: Re: The Hydrophone is IN; What would you like to see and hear?





Posts: 494


Location: midwest
I would like to hear a Lee Lure's Top H2O and a Delong Flying Witch.
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