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Posts: 399 Location: Burton, Ohio | Attachments ----------------  DSC02415bigperch.jpg (66KB - 2122 downloads) | ||
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Posts: 680 Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | If that is the case, I would remove the tail hooks as Muskies tend to grab larger prey from the side and towards the head. Smaller baits will often just get inhaled any which way. Tigger, no thanks needed for recieving the complements you deserve. All of us have our own twist that makes us stand out and your foil and colour schemes are awesome! I'm almost tempted to try making a foil pattern but that is something that you have really perfected and I'm not going to just copy your style. Tempting though cause they look really #*^@ good!!!  | ||
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| Big baits have there time and place. I fish them as much as possible as I have confidence in them. Kingfisher,I have to get a hold of a couple of those spoons in Lake Trout!! WOW! Here is a pic of a shallow running(6ft) speed trolling lure(got her up to 11mph). Next to a big stalker and Dadson's 20" Custom..... Joe Trueglide.com Attachments ---------------- Slugger compare.JPG (71KB - 438 downloads) 20inch troller.JPG (21KB - 283 downloads) | |||
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| Musky Snax |
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Posts: 680 Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | |||
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| Thanks Snax! I lucked out and was able to buy thousands of eyes up to 35mm at a factory that was closing down. I also purchased the molds. Although, the ones I have tried haven't turned out as nice.  HRJ- You going to Chicago this year? | |||
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Posts: 613 Location: big cove tannery pa | |||
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| Here is the head and side view of my latest 15 inch Deepthreat. This is a new and much improved lure from a couple years ago. The bait is not as tall in the belly area making it balance much much better. These will run over 6 mph with no added weight. Not a rock smasher but still very tough with Oak reinforcing in the head behind the lip. They will not split when accidently hitting boulders at 5 mph. The lure measures 15 inches from nose to tail. The lip is 1/4 inch Lexan,wire is .078 stainless half hard 302. Very sweet runners. Kingfisher Attachments ---------------- head.JPG (17KB - 325 downloads) body.JPG (14KB - 246 downloads) | |||
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Posts: 613 Location: big cove tannery pa | |||
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I had not noticed the Dick post  . Hes right you know. My Deepthreats are not the same quality as a Wishmaster. Rolf is willing to wet sand 20 coats of polymer to make the finish on a wishmaster second to none. I just said mine look as good Wishmasters will take out a boat propeller and never touch the wood. That is why his lure is 250 to 290 bucks. If I put 20 coats of polymer on one of mine it would be as tough and cost just as much money. I have one with a Titanium Lip that has 8 coats of wet sanded envirotec that you can split wood with. Its as tough as a lure needs to be . Dick has his opinion hes entitled to it. Most of us know what works and what sells and what works and sells. Im loving some of the jobs you other guys are doing,Snax, Fat fingers, Tigger, Grunts, Novac, Joe (true glide)50 or so others Ive missed. The guys getting into FOIL work remind me of the old days when my mother did gold leafing on Weathervanes. Man that is artistry. My goal is to Build Lures that the every day guy can take out and catch Muskies with. My big baits get tougher every year as more guys ask for extra coats of etec or oak reinforcment. More guys are asking for lures that can stand an entire year of bashing rock. That is a brutal test of your babies. Take one of your baits and run it into a rock pile when the water temps are cold(48) watch the polymer explode and the lip split the body like firewood. My hats off to Rolf(Wishmaster) he builds a friggin tank and has helped me on several occasions when I was starting out. His finish is really the standard in toughness. The closer I get to that quality the better. But I have to keep costs down to stay competitive so I am at three coats of envirotec now and have not raised my prices. I found other ways to speed up other steps without losing quality. A little more speed in the machining end and Ill be up to 5 coats of etec for the same price as three. Its all about getting better and staying affordable. All you guys are doing some awsome stuff. I miss this site when Im off working and dont have time to post. Keep up the great work everyone, KingfisherEdited by Kingfisher 1/5/2007 7:41 PM | |||
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| Musky Snax |
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Posts: 680 Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | A great way to show that appreciation is to donate a bait or two for a special event. I wish I could give more to truly show my gratitude but I have to pay the bills first!  We are all gratefull for any website that allows these kinds of posts. Sadly many sites don't and ultimately they lose out because the more baits we sell, the more we are able to give back. | ||
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| I really dont think anyone has to justify the cost. What Rolf sells is an indestructable lure that will last for hundreds of trips and days of pounding. For someone who fishes this type of lure all the time there is no question that the Wishmaster is the best choice. Rolf explains how to build a lure retriever to make sure you dont lose your investment. Now on the other hand there are a lot more guys like me who build a big bait that is more affordable for the guy who makes a couple trips to big bait waters per year. If I were going to georgian bay for one week and it was the only week I would ever have to go in my life would I buy 4 wishmasters for 1000 bucks or four of my baits for 240? Both run great and both catch fish. The difference is one will out last the other. The truth is most of us dont have the water in our back yards to warrent owning Wishmasters. So we buy less expensive ones so we can still take a few shots at those world record fish and not have to sit home with 3 grand in 12 lures hanging on the wall. Its that simple. If I were fishing Georgian bay three days per week or guiding clients on this body of water where banging rock is the way to catch fish I would be pulling Wishmasters . But there are more guys out there who have a week or two every year who can still take a few shots with big baits and not kill the pocket book. Another fact to consider is that One of my Deepthreats or a Frankie bait will last just as long as a Wishmaster if you keep it off the rocks. So on Lake erie or Buffalo Harbor where you troll for suspended fish and do not contact the bottom whos lure is the better choice there? Legend Plows catch a ton of fish in Buffalo harbor but explode on contact with the rocks of Georgian bay. Same with Hooker baits. I could sell 20- 12 to 15 inch deepdivers per week if I could get the price down to 40 bucks each. I watched Legend sell out in three hours at Pittsburg in 2002 at 45 bucks per plow. My booth was right next to them. It was humbling. I had 100 guys pick up a deepthreat and say wow are these nice and go next door and buy three Plows. Three plows 135.00, two Deepthreats 120.00 I think My 12 and 15 inch baits from 2006 and 2007 are tougher than both the Plow and the Hooker bait. and whats really cool is I can custom make one for anybody that will take all the abuse they want including oak reinforcment in the nose,oak dowel glued in thru the lip, lead behind the lip etc. Hooker and legend dont do that. I know it will never happen but I think Rolf should make a more affordable version of the Wishmaster for the average guys to buy. Maybe only 5 coats of finish for 100 bucks eh? Just Kidding Rolf . The paint jobs out there today are way better than they were even in 2002. Thats just a few years ago. So any way Im going to keep trying to find ways to get my prices down and still build a better lure than the production Plastics. The public wants quality at an affordable price and I aim to give it to them. Kingfisher | |||
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Posts: 680 Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | |||
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| Mike, I am saying exactly what your saying. I really like Wish's, but just can't spend that coin on a lure i could lose in a flash. I am not bashing them. Your right, if he made a lure that was in my price range, i would own it. Everyone doesn't drive a Mercedes, atleast i dont. Peace, PS Snax, i own your baits and really like them. There is a ton of distance between a bait that cost $50 and one that cost $350... You gotta see where i'm com'in from. How many dudes on this site own wish's? And this is hardcore.......When i look at Rolfs site, he is sold out, so i guess he is definitely smarter than me. Edited by Pikiespawn 1/6/2007 8:51 PM | |||
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Posts: 786 Location: Minnesota | King, $20 will buy you one of these stainless syringe models. Would allow you to hit it with a small amount of heat to lower the viscosity of your epoxy. I have used these types for high viscosities. I would think you coudl also use low viscosity epoxy resin for your internal work... Just a thought. The smaller syringes do come in high pressure models but, they do cost about $100-$150 from what I coudl find. Some require external syringe pumps. You can find those on eBay sometimes under medical supplies or analytical equipment. James Attachments ---------------- Large Ear.jpg (29KB - 241 downloads) cr stainless.jpg (19KB - 262 downloads) | ||
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| HR, Yeah, i shouldn't cry....... I'll just sell my old explorer instead of trading it in and buy a couple wish's if i can beat you to the punch. Your my hero, but you already knew that.... AYYYYYYY........ | |||
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| King, I've been great! It's a nice break not having to fish all the time Expect bigger offerings from most companies as they continue to gain popularity. I don't see why a 49 lb MI state record wouldn't eat a Wishmaster? | |||
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