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Location: St Paul, Minnesota | Don't get sucked in to the echo chamber, don't get sucked in to the echo chamber, don't get sucked in to theaaaaaagh..... alright. Didn't read half of the other posts but here we go.
Yes the Tranx 500HG can reel blades in faster than the PG, 13 inches per crank faster, assuming you reel both reels and the same speed/cadence. I myself don't enjoy reeling 10's in with my HG because of the extra resistance (because you're doing more work) which over time is taxing, so I actually prefer just reeling big blades in with my PG and just reeling a little faster.
If you're fishing with a Tranx 500PG or HG you are definitely not shooting yourself in the foot by any means, the even at the PG level 30 inches per crank is faster than most "high speed reels" from 3-5 years ago.
I use my 500HG for Big Rubber and jerk baits.
I use my 500PG for pretty much everything else.
I can use both the PG and HG interchangeably, but over time my comfort level with be compromised in certain applications on each reel.
I'll probably pick up the 400AHG for a dedicated Jerk/Glide rod as well as back-up/girlfriend duty for fall rubber.
I'll probably pick up the 400A for back-up/girlfriend duty as an all purpose lighter tackle/topwater reel.
But at the end of the day it comes down to feel for me. Everything is a tool and making that tool work for you and your fishing needs is the important thing.
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| HG definitely faster...there is no doubt. That being said PG all the way for big blades. If you need to pickup a full spool of line faster than that to catch fish i haven't seen it. Speed doesn't always "kill" and the PG is plenty fast to burn a big blade anyway. As much as i use my PG and still have to replace parts every year i can imagine it would be that much more bearing,gear and line guide pawl wear with the HG . Love the reel though and could see applications for both , but i could see myself using the HG more for rubber line pick up. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | A guy trolling 5 mph is going much faster than anyone can bring in a bucktail even with an hg. To me, I want the fastest speed I can get. Because. At times, that means more hits... we all want to catch more fish right? Or are you just happy with sunset pictures???? 
But use whatever you like...just giving my thoughts.
so what were the 2 guides Vegas? |
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| Im a big fan of the high speed reels myself I have the beast in the 50hs the 60hs and the reg 60 low gear along with teh revo rocket...which reel gets used the least the 60 4.9 beast...great reel but only use when I dont need speed or just pulling monster blades and dont want the xtra work...love the high speed reels you can reel slower but you can only reel so fast thats my opin |
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| "People seem to really like the lexa 400 for big blades....why assume the 400 Tranx wouldn't be able to handle the job? Plus it would be a lot lighter on the wallet..."
The 400 Lexa isn't near the reel that a Tranx 500 PG is. I have a couple of each. The Lexas I have didn't last a season and I didn't throw anything bigger than 8's for blades. In the long run getting a 500 will save money over getting the 400 Lexa repaired again and again... |
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| A better way to go is figure out what the "Big name" Pro's are using HG or PG....of course they would have both and use them for different applications, but what is their go to reel if they only had one to hook up with? Some of us can't justify buying just one of these let alone two of them and two rods.....that's a lot of coin.... |
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Location: S.W. WI | my 2 cents.
The faster 500 HG version is more versatile. It can do both speed and power. the PG cannot.
I have the 500 HG, added a LJV longer handle. Very fast and not hard to reel at full spool with that longer handle at 40" per turn.
I can always make it a slow power reel (like a PG) by dumping line off (smaller spool+big handle = super easy pull) I do this in the fall. 30" per turn.
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| BNelson - 2/16/2017 10:56 AM
well good for them, they are on the water about every day, they should catch a lot more per season. duh! ..and I'm not argueing with anyone (figure 8 ) if you look thru this thread there are many others that agree w me as well... it's pretty funny to me when guys come on here and try to use other ppls opinions as their own and with lack of actual results to back up those opinions. Me, I come on here with facts and the results that back up what I say...take it or leave it...as usual, the many m1st experts that catch 1 or 2 fish over 45" a year seem to know more than the rest of us who actually catch big fish regularly...comical.
Vegas looks to me you have 3 over 45 since 2010..? well last year in my boat I had 10 x that number..but don't listen to me, listen to your guide buddies, they clearly know more.
.. fact is, an HG can reel them faster... that's not an opinion.
If I ever wondered why so many of the guys that catch a lot of big fish don't or stopped posting on this site, this thread is a perfect answer....
And you know, not all fish end up in the Lunge Log. 
Why are you so interested in the guides that I fish with? Seems to me like you already know one of them.
I don't think you want to continue going down the road of equipment...especially as it relates to finances and what people can afford to buy.
Yah, I know you too. Musky circle isn't that big..... |
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| Northern Falls - 2/16/2017 1:35 PM
A better way to go is figure out what the "Big name" Pro's are using HG or PG....of course they would have both and use them for different applications, but what is their go to reel if they only had one to hook up with? Some of us can't justify buying just one of these let alone two of them and two rods.....that's a lot of coin....
I'm in that boat, I can't afford both reels. PG is more versatile.
But, if someone else were paying my bills, or buying my equipment, then I'd love to own both.
Unfortunately, that just isn't the case for me. Tough enough getting one new reel in the boat without the missus seeing it, let alone two. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | yes the circle is small, it's funny what PM's I've gotten about you the last 2 days Verges.. and if 1 of the 2 was the guide I was in the boat with, he didn't have a hook sharpener, a bulldawg, or a topwater in his boat the day I fished with him, when I asked for a mag dawg after 2 hrs no follows with 3 of us throwing blades he said they don't work here... lol. no lie...,,so yah, take what he says over what I say...classic! good luck w/ that!
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| BNelson.....some prefer the PG. Calm down buddy! HAHA
If you want speed, go with the HG
If you want to go slow, save your money and buy a less expensive reel. My Calcutta works great for slowing down, and costs over $100 less.
Or just reel slower with your HG....
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Location: Contrarian Island | oh I'm calm... he just ticked me off today! |
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Location: With my son on the water | Just an FYI:
On the Tranx 500 you only need to change the Main Drive Gear and the Pinion Gear and you can switch a PG to an HG. The yoke and all the drag washers are the same parts. It is an easy job and can be done in less than 5 minutes. Last time I purchased the parts to do this it cost $51.38 with the shipping.
Let me know if you would like some help locating the parts.
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| Feeling is mutual, bud. Neither of the guides i was referring to guide or really fish on Green Bay. Not sure who you are referring to.
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| If you can't afford 2 tranx..... It boils down to this.... If you are going to spend $500 on a reel.... Why not buy an amazing bucktail reel and a amazing rubber reel and buy the Hg.... I spend 100 days on the water a year and I do not find the Hg to be taxing at all... Actuality pretty easy.... Maybe I'm just super strong. Or buy a pg to make big bucktails "easy" to pull!!! |
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Location: Contrarian Island | 1 thing I've learned on this site over the years is there are those that are just full of hot air... oh and the P in the tranx pg stands for something other than power.
oh and verges you hire guides all the time...what is one day? cost of a new tranx? ya, you can't afford one, I feel bad for you.
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| I can afford to have both a PG and an HG and a rod locker full of other fancy combos too.
I ran both last year and found myself always reaching for the HG...blades, rubber, whatever. Because it was more versatile. I sold my PG last month for half price. Meh.
If I could only afford one, and bought a PG, I'd probably tell everyone...errr, myself...that was the best choice.
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| BNelson - 2/16/2017 2:29 PM
yes the circle is small, it's funny what PM's I've gotten about you the last 2 days Verges.. and if 1 of the 2 was the guide I was in the boat with, he didn't have a hook sharpener, a bulldawg, or a topwater in his boat the day I fished with him, when I asked for a mag dawg after 2 hrs no follows with 3 of us throwing blades he said they don't work here... lol. no lie...,,so yah, take what he says over what I say...classic! good luck w/ that!
What is this hook sharpener you speak of I'm glad you showed me those handles also to put the HG. Made the reel even better. |
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| I can bench press 400 lbs and curl 175. I've raced pro's with my Abu Garcia c3 and had no problems reeling in 13's faster than they could get their 10's in with the HG just sayin. It all depends on if you are a weakling or a BAMF. |
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Location: West Chester, OH | wisskie - 2/17/2017 9:15 AM
I can bench press 400 lbs and curl 175. I've raced pro's with my Abu Garcia c3 and had no problems reeling in 13's faster than they could get their 10's in with the HG just sayin. It all depends on if you are a weakling or a BAMF.
Awesome! What's your best marathon time? |
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Location: Contrarian Island | this is the handle I put on the hg... makes it even easier to bring in bucktails fast...yes, faster than the PG!
black eva knob. killer.
http://www.jiggingworld.com/shimano-trinidad-a-series-eva-aluminum-... |
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| Are we arguing what reels are more capable or whether or not the 400A and 400AHG can effectively retrieve big blades and rubber respectively?
For the people (Brad) saying that speed kills, you're absolutely right.... some days. Those days one wants a fast retrieve. There are other days where a slower, deeper retrieve puts more fish in the net. On those days, a slower reel is going to be easier to maintain the desired speed than an HG.
It's not entirely about what something can do, it's about whether you can do it all day, day after day, and have the focus when the big girl comes in. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | No 500 pg and 500 hg. |
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| Not trying to argue with anyone. Just trying to help out anyone thinking of buying the reel.... But the Hg is extremely easy to control speeds weather it be fast or slow. |
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| The manipulation of speed might be the best asset of the reel in my opinion. |
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| There's two reels for a reason fellas, it's called options. I prefer the PG because I find it more enjoyable to use. But I also catch a lot of fish trolling under 3 mph so what do I know. |
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| tolle141 - 2/17/2017 6:06 PM
Are we arguing what reels are more capable or whether or not the 400A and 400AHG can effectively retrieve big blades and rubber respectively?
For the people (Brad) saying that speed kills, you're absolutely right.... some days. Those days one wants a fast retrieve. There are other days where a slower, deeper retrieve puts more fish in the net. On those days, a slower reel is going to be easier to maintain the desired speed than an HG.
It's not entirely about what something can do, it's about whether you can do it all day, day after day, and have the focus when the big girl comes in.
My original question was just to see which reel people were excited at purchasing this year and for what application. Whether it be one of the new Tranx's or the older 500 model.
Personally, i was getting excited about the 400 model for bigger blades ....10's and an occasionally bigger....but mainly 10's. I would have also used it for big rubber. After hearing some of the responses from those that have held it in person i am not a little skeptical. I didn't want something as big as the 500, but it sounds like the 400 is a much much smaller reel. Theres even a pic somewhere with a guy holding probably the 300 series and it looks like his thumb is the same size as the reel!! I am not looking for a bass size reel at all. I was hoping the 400 would be somewhere in between the curado and the Tranx 500 for size and it was great that it is much cheaper than the 500.
I might just hold off entirely for now unless i find a Tranx 500 for cheap. Just use my curado to burn some blades... |
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Location: central Wisconsin | I am holding off on the new Tranx for a while, these are not built in Japan like the 500 Tranx or the Calcuttas. These are built in Malaysia which may turn out to be a nonfactor but I'll wait. |
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| The new Tranx 400 has the same spool capacity as the 400D. I use the 400D and love its silky smoothness. The Tranx 400A will have a touch more line pickup than the 400D at 30 inches vs 27. The 400AHG blows it away at 40 inches. Put the Tranx 400AHG on a 10ft rod and rip some rubber. It'll beat the heck outa the 500 all day long IMHO especially at $200 cheaper!!!!
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Location: MN | This has been a great read. I have been using dinosaurs (400 TE ). Considering a new Shimano, and after reading through this it would be a HG, if I thought I made a huge mistake I would get these parts, Main Drive Gear and the Pinion Gear and change to a PG. I'm pretty handy.
I rarely get to fish for more than a few hours at a time, so the extra work is a non-factor.
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