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| Overthinking things will prepare you... thinking in general will provide ideas... Ideas are made possible by putting fourth action. With so many actions available... I find it hard to believe under-thinking can outweigh overthinking as long as you keep your actions in check :P What up B-RAD?  | |||
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| Reelwise |
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| Short version... short versions within long versions. short versions within long versions to form a longer version. Short casts and long casts... Angles... how about a revolution? :P 360 DEGREES | |||
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| jonnysled |
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Posts: 13688 Location: minocqua, wi. | |||
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| The lake I fish holds both pike and musky’s. By summer the weeds are so densely packed that they hold few if any fish. This is true up to 13 or more FOW. Fishing inside these weeds would not produce fish. Perhaps on other lakes where the weeds are not so densely packed would produce different results? My guess is that for this inside casting to work these must be space between the weeds for the fish to maneuver? | |||
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Posts: 2325 Location: Chisholm, MN | |||
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Location: Contrarian Island | |||
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MTJ - 9/23/2016 1:29 PM The only time you really know when someone in our sport is just offering 'opinion' is when they use the words 'always' or 'never' to describe muskies. Overthinking and out thinking yourself on the water almost certainly will cost you more fish than failing to adjust when you should but staying out of your own head is just about impossible sometimes. You're more likely to see a unicorn from your deer stand than nail down an absolute in musky fishing. Since the group is all about disagreeing... Can I disagree for once? The only time you really know when someone in our sport is just offering opinion is when they rarely use the words always or never to describe Muskellunge. Overthinking gives you more options. It mainly comes down to how much data you can analyze and break down at one time in your head when you do not have certain tools to help you make things easier than they would be if you had those tools. In order to come to the conclusion to deserve to throw the words always and never around, I believe I would have to have experience when it comes to just about everything... or have access to my own or others data based on all of the experiences I can not go through myself. There are few absolutes... and believe it or not - it takes a ton of data to get to the majority of them. If you do not believe so... I will be happy to send you a couple projects to work on I mean well... I promise. I do pretty well, also. Overthinking has not only lead me to a good number of catches (which are absolutes by the way), but positive opportunities in several other subjects as well as different arenas within the same. Each Muskellunge has a code based on scripts within a system. Edited by Reelwise 9/23/2016 4:30 PM | |||
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| BNelson... When we trigger a Muskellunge to react to our lures - we insert a script into it's zone of awareness. The script that triggered the initial response can lead you to the most absolute result we are speaking of, but sometimes we need to change the code within the script with an absolute code in order to get them to "bite." This is when we need to get the proper script in the strike-zone - with an absolute code that leads to an absolute result that can be added to a data base full of irregularities literally within a database full of irregularities hoping for a positive, absolute in order for comfortable survival. Edited by Reelwise 9/23/2016 4:35 PM | |||
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Posts: 4269 Location: Ashland WI | Reelwise - 9/23/2016 4:33 PM BNelson... When we trigger a Muskellunge to react to our lures - we insert a script into it's zone of awareness. The script that triggered the initial response can lead you to the most absolute result we are speaking of, but sometimes we need to change the code within the script with an absolute code in order to get them to "bite." This is when we need to get the proper script in the strike-zone - with an absolute code that leads to an absolute result that can be added to a data base full of irregularities literally within a database full of irregularities hoping for a positive, absolute in order for comfortable survival. Are we still talking muskies??? Or are we talking mushrooms?? | ||
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Location: Contrarian Island | |||
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| Mushrooms in a can... Great idea for the boat. Thank you. All of us go out there to break down all the variables to the point where we can insert the best piece into the equation in order to reach an absolute result - which is a catch... as well as... enjoy our time and take things easy or put our best effort forward if we choose. We can do one or the other, or do both. Everything takes time. Intelligence is a unique word in itself and one that can absolutely be argued when it comes to Muskellunge. Since each and every fish is different, each fish is intelligent in a sense that they hold different, and unique information or data based on variables that each fish within the lake have an opportunity to experience, but they do not generally experience the same conditions and often find themselves in a variety of situations at different times throughout their life-time, which just so happens to be a different time period if we are talking Muskellunge of different ages. Our own personal time frame allows us to break our own individual experiences with each fish down to the point where we can call them dumb - but, at least we all know it would be out of respect. We would not put in the time if we did not love them | |||
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| "not smart" Have you ever spooked a fish? I have spooked some fish... They reacted pretty quick... possibly, never to be seen again. What about memory? Storage? | |||
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Location: Contrarian Island | have you eaten a bucktail when you are hungry?  Edited by BNelson 9/23/2016 5:20 PM | ||
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| Muskellunge, like us, have instinct. Muskellunge have obviously carried an instinct to feed from a young age to where they get when they reach the point of you catching them on a bucktail. Sure, we believe they should be eating fish... but, what do Muskellunge eat when they are too small to eat those fish you now believe are normal for them to eat? Probably anything that would fit in it's mouth... The idea that Muskellunge seize the opportunity to eliminate something within the environment that it may perceive as a threat exists also. Who knows... I guess I'm not very smart in the sense that I actually believe that each fish sometimes requires something requires a unique approach in order to be caught - especially if you want to catch it multiple times throughout the season. I have not figured out every fish yet and I accept that it will not happen. For all we know, Muskellunge may be thinking a bucktail is a super-giant insect! So, what do you think about bucktails? Edited by Reelwise 9/23/2016 5:34 PM | |||
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| You guys obviously have more experience than I do. I would rather not put something in my body with the thought that my memory and projections may be altered in a negative fashion. At least not until I buy a house and put 5 swimming pools in the backyard with a few Muskellunge in all of them. Would be cool to film their intellectual activity in a controlled environment to see if we can come up with some patterns that work every single time. Realistically, though... An entire lifetime on Lake St. Clair would probably be the best option as far as a natural place to figure out the whys and wheres with the most relevant comparisons possible. I still believe that Muskellunge are smart... I just do not believe they have a high storage capacity. Memory is just too hard to delete - which is why some of us may believe they are not very smart... All due to the fact that most of them all behave in similar ways and like Brad said - must eat to survive. We must do the same things ourselves... | |||
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