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Location: Sawyer County, WI | jonnysled - 2/23/2016 10:49 AM
Junkman - 2/23/2016 10:13 AM
I use to be a horseshoer (farrier) and my hands were sliced and diced daily by nails not always going where planned. My hands were those like any brute sort of a guy who worked outdoors at a real job, gloves were for sissies, and my wife bristled at the touch. No real man I knew would wear gloves period. Now, I'm a refined sort of gentleman with the smooth sort of hands that a beautiful woman likes to hold. So let the mob know I'm wearing a glove, it's not a problem. And, when I release the head back into the water with my gloved left hand, my bare right hand holds the tail until she swims away. I just don't know a better way.
i'd just like to acknowledge that this paragraph flowed like it came out of a John Steinbeck novel.
Ah yes. A great book, 'Of Mice and Musky Guys'... |
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Location: Ludington, MI | I demand satisfaction!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnx9zt5Wzmg |
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| One question: was that a fresh, clean, new glove? |
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| ToddM - 2/23/2016 8:47 AM
Vice clamps ok?
I'm sorry...I know I shouldn't laugh...but...dangit.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaaaa!!!!
Cracking me up...
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | tkuntz - 2/23/2016 11:21 AM
Musky Brian - 2/23/2016 6:07 AM
Bob, better make sure you correct Saric on this next time you fish together as I have seen him wear one....it's an "accepted truth" and a guy online says so!
Well don't I feel foolish making my decisions based on scientific evidence rather than a gut feeling. You sure showed me who the ignoramus is.
would you mind sharing your "scientific evidence" that illustrates holding the underside of a fishes jaw for 30 seconds with a wet glove is damaging to a musky?
Edited by Musky Brian 2/23/2016 2:14 PM
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| This discussion makes me think that I'd hate to be the 1 out of 5 dentists that didn't recommend a toothpaste in all those commercials. |
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| I would think nets do far more harm than gloves. |
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| Smell_Esox - 2/23/2016 2:32 PM
I would think nets do far more harm than gloves.
Exactly.
We inflict multiple puncture wounds in their face [and potentially their gills and/or other locations on the body], let them wrap up tightly in small-diameter, tight line, make them fight for their life against up to 25 pounds pulling at their face (gills, or other body part) for up to a couple minutes, then force them into a small contraption which abrasively rubs against their entire body while they desperately try to break through, out, or over said contraption...
and then worry about whether you should gently lift them from the net with a wet, smooth glove or a wet bare hand [while also depriving them of oxygen for up to a minute or so]...
Nothing better to argue about? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i think it was the Kuntz was the one who started it ... |
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Location: oswego, il | Michael Jackson wore a glove and no harm came to any adult muskie.
Edited by ToddM 2/23/2016 4:41 PM
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| jonnysled - 2/23/2016 10:49 AM
Junkman - 2/23/2016 10:13 AM
I use to be a horseshoer (farrier) and my hands were sliced and diced daily by nails not always going where planned. My hands were those like any brute sort of a guy who worked outdoors at a real job, gloves were for sissies, and my wife bristled at the touch. No real man I knew would wear gloves period. Now, I'm a refined sort of gentleman with the smooth sort of hands that a beautiful woman likes to hold. So let the mob know I'm wearing a glove, it's not a problem. And, when I release the head back into the water with my gloved left hand, my bare right hand holds the tail until she swims away. I just don't know a better way.
i'd just like to acknowledge that this paragraph flowed like it came out of a John Steinbeck novel.
More like Nora Roberts.... Now admit it, you googled her....  |
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| ToddM - 2/23/2016 3:44 PM
Michael Jackson wore a glove and no harm came to any adult muskie.
Or any adult anything else... |
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Location: Minnesota. | horsehunter - 2/23/2016 8:52 AM
Is it possible that the infection rate is a lot different for a fish released into the lake as opposed to two weeks in a small tank for filming. I have recaptured a number of fish I tagged back in the 90's wearing gloves and never saw any ill effects. Muskies do regenerate slime over time. Any fisheries worker I ever watched or assisted with netting was always wearing gloves. We have caught muskies in the late fall in the outlet from Lake Ontario to the Larry with the slime hanging off like gelatin leaving much slime in the net. An American biologist told me that he thought these were fish feeding in deep cold water on lake trout.
Good points Frank.
If those recaptured fish didn't show any ill effects then my post was pointless I guess. Maybe our muskies are a bit different in their slime-producing...at least I hope so. Trout might be different critters, who knows??
Still, I have my doubts but I figured it would be good to hear varied opinions.
Also good to toss a bone into the pen and stand back a bit and watch ;-)) ( - but that wasn't my initial intention.)
Jeremy.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | throwin the bone to kuntz can make it entertaining in a hurry! |
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Location: oswego, il | Trout and salmon have much smaller and more delicate scales. You can scale a coho for instance with a hose. You net one and you have scales all over. |
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Location: Blaine, MN | jonnysled - 2/23/2016 5:57 PM
throwin the bone to kuntz can make it entertaining in a hurry!
If not entertaining, at least there is usually a happy ending! |
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| White cotton gloves?? Only upitty "fly guys" have Jeeves release their fish!! I think the results would be a little different with Lindy gloves or even the Musky Armor gloves. I think it should be pretty obvious that touching fish with super absorbent material is probably uncool...so scratch the terry cloth bump board idea! |
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Location: Cedarburg, WI. | So if I clamp down on a healthy muskie's tail that is clearly trying to swim away under its own power with a glove on, it will get infections on the 2 main pressure points where I applied the force nessecary to restrict it from swimming away?!? Wow! Mind blown! I understand slime and why fish need it. That video in my opinion was a great example of a poor release if anything. I may be newer to musky fishing, but very light grip just to hold it upright is all it takes. In my experience the fish had no problem letting me know when it was ready to go. |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | thats it! Dadson Musky Armor gloves for sale! $150.00! |
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| short STRIKE - 2/23/2016 6:02 PM
jonnysled - 2/23/2016 5:57 PM
throwin the bone to kuntz can make it entertaining in a hurry!
If not entertaining, at least there is usually a happy ending!
Bwaaaaa hahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. |
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| Michael Jackson was a muskie fisherman,,,had a place in Hackensack,,he loved to be in and out and all over "little boy"
His best tactic was moon walk the dog baits,,,,his favorite-"the phat boy" he loved working little phat boys!!!
God this is a new low,,,even for me!!!!
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| I understand it. I don't get the negatives. A dry glove tail hold can remove the slim coat and the video shows what can happen. Lots of stuff can happen when we handle fish and it's a great example. The video wasn't about a wet glove gill hold.
Thanks for the video. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | But does the dry glove need to be cotton too? or are all dry gloves bad?? |
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| Fishing Basics 101: When fishing for sport, with intent to release fish...always handle fish with wet hands.
Any fish. Any species.
If fishing for table fare...well then...
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Location: Madison, WI | jonnysled - 2/23/2016 10:49 AM
Junkman - 2/23/2016 10:13 AM
I use to be a horseshoer (farrier) and my hands were sliced and diced daily by nails not always going where planned. My hands were those like any brute sort of a guy who worked outdoors at a real job, gloves were for sissies, and my wife bristled at the touch. No real man I knew would wear gloves period. Now, I'm a refined sort of gentleman with the smooth sort of hands that a beautiful woman likes to hold. So let the mob know I'm wearing a glove, it's not a problem. And, when I release the head back into the water with my gloved left hand, my bare right hand holds the tail until she swims away. I just don't know a better way.
i'd just like to acknowledge that this paragraph flowed like it came out of a John Steinbeck novel.
Agreed. A refreshing change from the norm! |
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| Where I'm from, certain 'fly-rodders' do more harm to Muskies than gloves do, but that's for another thread. After spending a fair amount of time in Alaska, fishing salmon and Pike on fly equipment that is the best tool and adequately built for the quarry I'm after, I'm disappointed when I see the drag out epic battles with 33.5" Muskies during warm/low river conditions. I know it is an exceptionally sporting way to fish, but please, take a lesson from the guys on a couple of the Musky television episodes, and use the proper equipment and land your fish once hooked.
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| Wouldn't be the worst idea for a separate thread on "The joy of playing a musky." Clearly not a joy for all parties in my view, and with needed adjustment for water temps and much else....but it might be a spirited discussion. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Junkman - 2/25/2016 7:59 AM
Wouldn't be the worst idea for a separate thread on "The joy of playing a musky." Clearly not a joy for all parties in my view, and with needed adjustment for water temps and much else....but it might be a spirited discussion.
totally agree!! why rush a fish to the bag so fast you have no enjoyment of catching them? within reason of course but is an immediate catch, green fish in a net bag any worse than a fish that comes in ready after you've had some time enjoying their power? |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | So I don't have to use tuna gear when fishing for muskies ? Let the fight begin ! |
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Location: oswego, il | Spirited battles for everyone, even a farrier like Junkman. Can't you do the old fliparoo with a 33.5 +/- .25 (depending on the bump board) incher? |
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