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| I would agree, it is hard to determine right now which reel to go with for throwing 10s and one would have to think Abu Garcia came out with these reels to specifically compete with the Tranx which like it or not has become the bench mark for throwing 10s. The Tranx PG seems to be the most popular for 10s and for you guys using the HG, wow, I will not mess with you....... I personally use the Tranx PG and will admit it is big and a bear to use, however the more I use it the better I seem too do with it to the point I am using it 95% of the time and no nothing compares to it. The PG brings in 30 IPT, the Revo S brings in 29 IPT so it is very close and at $250 not bad. However the HS BEAST brings in 34 IPT, comes with 3 handles, 3 more bearings (which isn't a big deal) but also has a better drag and both magnetic and centrifugal casting control, and a few other improvements that may not matter much. The S only has the magnetic casting control and casting 10s into the wind can be an issue with some reels? It is great that both reels are offered in left handed models which my son needs. I am really on the fence?? If I get him the S, the IPT should be good but I may have to upgrade the handle?? If I get him the Beast in HS, we could always reduce the amount of line on the reel which will reduce the IPT and also add more power? But the Beast is $400, but then he would have in my opinion the Cadillac that should last him a very long time. The worst thing that would happen is I would have to purchase new gears like in the S. I did contact Abu Garcia an asked if a Beast could be ordered with same gear as the S and the answer was no. I suppose it matters how much money you have and how much you will use it? So for the casual user and those on a budget the S will probable be great. But we are more of what I would call diehards and honestly money is not an issue for me at this point in my life which is why I am considering the Beast. So please for those of you who have these reels, please go throw some 10s as that is what we all want to know. And if anyone has both the Beast HS and S please give us a comparison. Good Luck too  | |||
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curleytail - 9/11/2015 12:28 PM Seems like I read this somewhere, but can't find it now. Have there been any changes to the gearing or other factors in the Toro S and Beast series (from the Revo Toro NACL's) in regards to durability with hard pulling baits? Most of us have probably experienced a reel that is used for double 10's getting rougher and rougher over time till they start to sound and feel like a coffee grinder from continued use of hard pulling baits. Higher gear ratio reels are sometimes worse with this than lower gear ratios. I don't own one, but from what I understand, the huge gears in the Tranx offer a lot of durability. Most guys seem to be buying them for use with hard pulling baits, and there are very few reports of durability issues. Has Abu Garcia increased the gear sizes, or taken other steps to increase the durability? Is the common thought that the high speed Toro Beast will stand up to hard cranking with large double bladed bucktails with no durability problems? Has anybody received a Toro Beast or S yet, or have one on order? Tucker The Toro Beast/S use a massively larger main gear and pinion as compared to the NaCl. The larger size in conjunction with the modest gear ratios has grown both the thickness of the teeth and also the thickness of the body of the gear (important for rigidity). 1. I chose the image below of the Revo Beast low gear model (even though the spring is a bit in the way) because it shows the teeth in the Main well, but also note the thickness in the body of the Pinion. 2. The second image is of an NaCl HS. Note how much thinner the body of the Pinion is and the Main is substantially smaller, by maybe 20% in diameter. Net result: The gears in the Toro Beast/S are substantially tougher than previous. Attachments ----------------  P1030316.JPG (155KB - 531 downloads) P1020529_zpsda6c55f9.jpg (178KB - 612 downloads) | |||
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btfish - 9/12/2015 5:44 PM Thanks That's is pretty good. I obviously miss read your first post (need to wear those glasses). I wonder why the Abu Garcia lists the 4.9 in the 60 as bring in only 24IPT? 28 7/8 with the 4.9 isn't bad. Thanks 4.9 in the 60 is rated for 27 ipt.
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| Sorry for my confusion guys. I had some of the best eye sight in the world most of my life so wearing reading glasses is not something that comes naturally for me but something I MUST do more. You guys are correct. The beast in the 50 with 4.9 gears is 24 IPT, the 60 in 4.9 is 27 IPT. The beast in the 50 with 6.2 gears is 31 IPT, the 60 in 6.2 is 34 IPT. The S in the 60 with 5.3 is 29 IPT. I know the Tranx PG is listed at 30 IPT but now I am wondering what mine actually is?? I think I need to go measure it. I really think Abu Garcia has hit a home run with this new line up of reels and has provided enough options to make us all happy. My problem is figuring out which combination will work the best for my son. I really look forward to more actual feedback from the guys who have these reels. Have a good day everyone | |||
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btfish - 9/13/2015 5:10 AM Sorry for my confusion guys. I had some of the best eye sight in the world most of my life so wearing reading glasses is not something that comes naturally for me but something I MUST do more. You guys are correct. Definately, and make sure to get pictures of your fish on the bumpboard for now; .  | |||
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Posts: 1283 | Just got my 4.9 and HS 60s today. Spooling them up right now. | ||
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Jimmywho - 11/3/2015 1:04 PM I've just bought one of these revo toro beasts as an upgrade from my old Abu 6500c3. I'm a bit confused about all the adjustments to the brake, there was no manual in the box. I understand how to use the spool tension knob as I've got the same setup on the old reel, but I'm not sure how to use the brake adjustment dial. Also do I need to remove the palm side plate to adjust the brake pins? If I'm changing from a 5oz lure to a 2oz, what would I adjust other then the spool tension knob? Hope you can provide some clarity, cheers The "centrifugal" brakes (pins) on the spool are your first adjustment. Generally add pins until all 6 are being used if required. The side cover comes off very easily, the thumb screw is spring loaded to keep the plate on even if the screw is loose so you have to pop it out the last bit. Twist the side plate clockwise to get it off. Then you have the mag brakes that are adjusted with the outside dial on the face of the side cover. Add as needed to get control by turning counter clockwise for more braking. If these are not enough, then the spool tension knob is your last option. Normally I have it set so there is no spool tension, but if you need to, set it by just tightening enough to slow the drop of the lure when the thumb button is depressed (reel out of gear) and add as needed. This uses a brake pad inside that will wear over time, so I try not to use it unless strictly required. Depending on the rod used I generally play with just the mag control to adjust over a days fishing. Good luck. You should find it a rather dramatic upgrade from a 6500. | |||
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