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Location: Janesville wi | Seriously?
I'm not saying we should just let people do whatever they want. I was only talking of trolling. Trollers will still have to follow all the other laws like size limits so I don't think there will be nothing left. Some lakes are better for casting,some for trolling,and others for both. Guys will roll into lakes that fit their style.
I rarely fish out of a motor powered boat and I have no problem reading the book from cover to cover so the state wide trolling won't benefit me at all. The sky won't fall.
Edited by wiswimbait 3/1/2013 9:44 PM
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Location: The Yahara Chain | I had no idea that trolling was so easy and so loud.
I haven't scene one legitimate point made by the anti- trollers.
Can somebody please point me to studies that show where trolling 'ruins' a fishery. It is a method that is allowed everywhere else in the world, surely there are lots of examples of trolling destroying lakes all around the world. Can somebody please point me to such a study?? |
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| Bytor - 3/2/2013 1:38 PM
I had no idea that trolling was so easy and so loud.
I haven't scene one legitimate point made by the anti- trollers.
Can somebody please point me to studies that show where trolling 'ruins' a fishery. It is a method that is allowed everywhere else in the world, surely there are lots of examples of trolling destroying lakes all around the world. Can somebody please point me to such a study??
I was going to say the same thing, you guys here pounding trolling like its the easy way to catch a muskie, do you truly believe the muskies are going to jump right in? trolling is an art and to any guy that thinks casting a lure behind the boat and driving around in circles is trolling? you have no clue what it is. trust me your lakes get more abuse casting then trolling will ever do. good luck to whatever happens to your state but trolling is the last thing that hurts your fisheries. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | troll the rainbow ...
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Location: Muskegon Michigan | If folks in Vilas county don't want trolling its none of my business. What they do on their side of the border does not make any difference to me. Trolling is legal in Michigan and that includes border waters on our side of the state line. If you guys in Vilas want to troll just fish the border waters and fish the Michigan side. This is the beauty of our country. Each state can have it the way they want it. There are plenty of lakes in Wisconsin where trolling is legal.
As for effecting the numbers and pressure? Ive been trolling here in Michigan for near 40 years and have never seen any effect either way. All this stuff about planer boards and too many lines. We can run three per man plus sliders. You dont do this on a small lake because you would spend more cleaning lines then catching fish. Its relative. On st. clair we go all out, boards sliders, maximum rods but on little 200 acre lakes we use two to four rods all boat rods no boards and only troll around the lake a couple times to rest from 3 to 4 hours of casting. In reality that is how its done.
My guess is very few people would change the way they fish anyway. Every year we get the same 4 arguments on this board. How big do they get, sucker rigs, world records fights and should you troll in Vilas county. What ever Vilas wants to do is fine with me, I dont have to fish there. Mike |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | Can somebody please point me to studies that show where trolling boosts the economy ?
That argument is as silly as some of the arguments against trolling.
Bytor - 3/2/2013 1:38 PM
I had no idea that trolling was so easy and so loud.
I haven't scene one legitimate point made by the anti- trollers.
Can somebody please point me to studies that show where trolling 'ruins' a fishery. It is a method that is allowed everywhere else in the world, surely there are lots of examples of trolling destroying lakes all around the world. Can somebody please point me to such a study?? |
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Location: Hudson,WI | muskyhunter47 - 2/26/2013 7:34 PM
here in minnesota we get one line dont matter if your casting trolling or using a sucker. one is all you get, i seen a musky show he was using 6 lines im hoping one of the lines was his camra mans. it would be nice to use more then one line but we cant may be i neen to head east start fishing wi
Nope, No muskies over here 
I perfer to cast, but I'd like to be able to troll once in a while without needing some sort of degree to interpret the regs. |
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Location: Elgin, IL | Bytor - 3/2/2013 1:38 PM
Can somebody please point me to studies that show where trolling 'ruins' a fishery. It is a method that is allowed everywhere else in the world, surely there are lots of examples of trolling destroying lakes all around the world. Can somebody please point me to such a study??
No, there is no such study. Just the opinion of some that think that every fish hooked while trolling will die. Therefore, decimating every lake and stream of any living creature.
If this ever passes, which it won't as written, I will offer to buy some of you some earmuffs to drown out the trolling noise. |
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Location: Roscoe IL | My family, friends & I have been fishing Northern Wisconsin for over 20 years now. In the last 10 I have yet to see the DNR out checking anyone, much less catching a boat trolling when it shouldn't be. I do see locals engaging someone when they see something wrong now an again, and not in a bad way. This happened last year on a lake in Tomahawk, a boat was trolling in an area that's not allowed and when they stopped they pulled up close and nicely explained the law. No screaming, no ill will, just a hey did you know.. The DNR is spread out so thin, it's too bad really. But it's very cool to see others taking ownership. Things seem to be going pretty good right now, I say if it ain't broke don't break it. |
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| Northwind Mark - 3/4/2013 12:00 PM
Bytor - 3/2/2013 1:38 PM
Can somebody please point me to studies that show where trolling 'ruins' a fishery. It is a method that is allowed everywhere else in the world, surely there are lots of examples of trolling destroying lakes all around the world. Can somebody please point me to such a study??
No, there is no such study. Just the opinion of some that think that every fish hooked while trolling will die. Therefore, decimating every lake and stream of any living creature.
If this ever passes, which it won't as written, I will offer to buy some of you some earmuffs to drown out the trolling noise.
Why is a trolled hook fish going to die, and a casting hook fish not going to die? please explain this because it makes Zero sense |
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| It's not just about muskies,we have many lakes that the walleyes suspend and are virtually uncatchable by any other means.let the trollers target those fish and with the right slot limits 17-28inch our tourist and locals will be able to catch and release more fish,and keep them coming back to the north woods.the north woods really need the tourism. |
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Location: S.Wisconsin | I say yes all the way...will I troll probly not but it would be nice to run suckers wile working structure and such. Just because its legal I doubt there will be a bunch of guys trolling puddles. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | I'd be ok with 1 line. That means 1 line, not one in and one casting. If you want to troll suckers, pay attention to that sucker line only.
I wouldn't be opposed to lakes 1000 acres or larger going to 2 lines, but then you'd leave it up to the anglers to know how big of lakes their fishing, so there lies a huge excuse.
Heck, people are trolling up here all the time anyways. |
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| "I say yes all the way...will I troll probly not but it would be nice to run suckers wile working structure and such. Just because its legal I doubt there will be a bunch of guys trolling puddles."
I'm totally against trolling on the smaller lakes but if trolling passes I will be the first one out there doing it because like mentioned in the other trolling post the bite isnt going to last long. Might as well pound the snot out of one little lake and head to the next. With a 500 acre or less lake fish cant hide from 9 lines. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | if they get trolling you will be line-limited (more than likely) ... do you still want to "work the shoreline" when you have to pick 1 sucker or 1 casting line? i highly doubt it will ever be 2 suckers and 1 casting line if motor trolling is legalized. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Agreed. At most, 1 line and one trolling line. |
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Location: Elgin, IL | 2 lines a man would be nice.
Then how many hooks per line?
Does a treble hook count as 3 hooks then?
I also wonder if this passed.....would it increase the number of entries in the Tournaments that are held up that way? Not that I care, just wondering if it would create more interest to enter if you could troll a line or two. |
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| And do you think the Salmon charters, bago trollers,GB trollers, and everybody that can currently troll would be cool with 1 or 2 lines? I highly doubt it. |
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| You guys are funny! We troll a 400 acre lake here in Indiana all the time, with 4-5 lines. We didn't fish it out, plenty of nice fish left for the casters. Indiana DNR stocks it @ 1 fish per acre, and we have caught a lot of nice fish there. The biggest danger to the Muskies there are the locals, they hate them! |
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| hambone - 3/5/2013 12:54 PM
You guys are funny! We troll a 400 acre lake here in Indiana all the time, with 4-5 lines. We didn't fish it out, plenty of nice fish left for the casters. Indiana DNR stocks it @ 1 fish per acre, and we have caught a lot of nice fish there. The biggest danger to the Muskies there are the locals, they hate them!
That's the difference - the IN DNR stocks 400 fish in there every season. Many of the lakes in Vilas rely on natural reproduction alone. |
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| Mr Musky - 3/5/2013 12:46 PM
And do you think the Salmon charters, bago trollers,GB trollers, and everybody that can currently troll would be cool with 1 or 2 lines? I highly doubt it.
You make it sound like its not possible, pay attention now.
In Canada you know the country north of you?
Ontario we are allowed two lines in the Great Lakes with a total of 12 hook points per line, if you don't know math 4 trebles. Georgian bay is an exception where it is not part of the Great Lake you are allowed one (1) line with 12 hook points, yup you got it its easy to troll, remember trollers clean out lakes, and guess what they have salmon and walleye charters in georgian bay, you got it one (1) line per man that's it.
It works and works well to all guys here that are saying it doesn't work, are just crazy and hate change.
Now 3 lines per man like some of the states are, I can only imagine that in ontario, I wouldn't even know where to start. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | in Indiana we ....
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| Chalk me up for a yes vote. It would definetely simply things and would make sucker fishing the way most people do it legal. |
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| jonnysled - 3/5/2013 2:50 PM
in Indiana we ....
lol
I have been to WI and IN, I can see the comparison:) |
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| I will say we have it pretty #*^@ good here in Wisconsin, our rules and regulations work just fine. I feel pretty bad for you folks who are only allowed one line. I can only hope things dont change around here. WE like it that way. |
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| Mr Musky - 3/5/2013 3:26 PM
I will say we have it pretty #*^@ good here in Wisconsin, our rules and regulations work just fine. I feel pretty bad for you folks who are only allowed one line. I can only hope things dont change around here. WE like it that way.
You sound like your speaking or have spoken to everyone in your state that fish, when you say WE you mean YOU, like I said before change seems to bother many. |
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| Guest - 3/5/2013 5:07 PM
Mr Musky - 3/5/2013 3:26 PM
I will say we have it pretty #*^@ good here in Wisconsin, our rules and regulations work just fine. I feel pretty bad for you folks who are only allowed one line. I can only hope things dont change around here. WE like it that way.
You sound like your speaking or have spoken to everyone in your state that fish, when you say WE you mean YOU, like I said before change seems to bother many.
Change is welcome only when it's good. So far the only reasons I've seen to allow trolling in Vilas County are:
1. It didn't wreck the fisheries in (insert place that is not Vilas County)
2. Because I want to be able to troll there.
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Location: Sawyer County, WI |
You forgot the ever popular "it will boost the local economy" argument.
esoxaddict - 3/5/2013 5:59 PM
Change is welcome only when it's good. So far the only reasons I've seen to allow trolling in Vilas County are:
1. It didn't wreck the fisheries in (insert place that is not Vilas County)
2. Because I want to be able to troll there.
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Boosting and giving those who visit more options to fish, are two different things. What's hurting tourism up there is the cost to go, the reduced bag limits, bigger fish in other states, lack of longer snow seasons and crowding or preceived crowding on lakes.
Personally, I see no reason not to allow 1-2 line trolling up there. |
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| You guys are missing one of the big points the dnr is trying to push,uniform regs across the state .3 lines per angler and no separation from a 100 acre lake or a 10,000 acre lake ,same regs for the entire state. They will not differentiate from north to south.one set o f regs statewide so you don,t have to fish with a lawyer and a nun in Wisconsin anymore!finally |
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