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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Ok, I'll ask this question again.......Will there ever be another MNTT here in Minnesota.
We have so many top notch musky Lakes in this State, Why not a Muskie Circuit ?
It's like not having Pro Hockey here...Remember that !
I would Fish it in a Heartbeat.
How about You ??
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| 100% agree! You could count me in. Been hoping they would do this again. Sounds like good musky fun! |
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| My son and I would be in!!!!
Edited by BLIZZAK 11/23/2014 7:22 PM
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| I could be talked into going to the Big-V for an event, just to beat G-Rome on his own water! |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Junkman - 11/24/2014 7:36 AM
I could be talked into going to the Big-V for an event, just to beat G-Rome on his own water!
Bring It, Packer Slacker ! Hahaha.... I'd even show you a few out of the way spots Marty. Just because I'm a nice guy. |
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Location: Minnesota | My buddy and I were just discussing this over the weekend. I myself would fish the tournament, if we could get back to the dates Hartman had when he owned and ran the tournament. My understanding from others is that the dates were not put in for in time and the tournament lost participants rather quickly. I did not fish the tournament trail when it was going, but I am in a position now where it would on my calendar.
Steve, you own the rights to the MMTT right? Shed some light for some of us newbies.... |
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Location: Appleton, WI | As recent history has shown, pulling permits to run big musky tournaments in MN waters is not easy. Whoever takes on the task has a tough job. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | I'd be happy to fish 1 big dollar event in Mn. like in yrs. past. |
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Location: The desert | I'd come follow G Rome around. Maybe even hook up a tow line so I don't need to bother with boat control. |
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| The answer is probably not... Everyone wants to fish a new MN trail but NOBODY wants to organize and run one! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Especially me. Not after my experience a few years back. No way. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Ben Olsen - 11/25/2014 5:36 PM
The answer is probably not... Everyone wants to fish a new MN trail but NOBODY wants to organize and run one!
I may have to step up.... What about 1 bigger event with 75 boats at $1000. per boat or $500. per man.....$25,000 for first place and paying down to 10th place.
I'll kick in $2000. for Stocking.
Perhaps in the Fall on a Northern MN. Lake.
I've been thinking ....Could be Dangerous. |
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| I'll mail the cash in today. do it. |
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Location: Eagan, MN | GRome, if by chance 'Northern MN' means Lake Vermilion, maybe checks should be sent directly to Luke Ronnestrand? Hah. I might bite on something like this, depending on the timing. BrianF |
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| you won't get 75 boats to pony up $1000 in the fall.
maybe summer. maybe. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | BrianF. - 11/26/2014 8:09 AM
GRome, if by chance 'Northern MN' means Lake Vermilion, maybe checks should be sent directly to Luke Ronnestrand? Hah. I might bite on something like this, depending on the timing. BrianF
Oh, Luke.....He would only be allowed to fish Stuntz Bay for 2hrs.....Haha .. Gota handicap him.
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | M Winther - 11/26/2014 9:05 AM
you won't get 75 boats to pony up $1000 in the fall.
maybe summer. maybe.
Mike,
You know the last big money Tournament up here drew 80 boats in Mid- September.
First place paid $80,000. with a $2,500. entry fee.
I was thinking of starting with 5o boats, but the payouts didn't seem as Tempting as a 75 boat format... Also thinking of adding a $10,000. bonus for boating a 55" Musky.
The end of July and the first of August may be a problem with getting a permit and the possibility of High water temps... Plus the lake would be much more crowed than after Labor Day.
Also this would have to happen on a Friday and Saturday unless the permitting Rules have changed.
Wouldn't want to schedule this at the same time as other Tournaments.
Did I mention kicking in $2,000. for Stocking.... Maybe $3,000. would help the permitting process go a bit smoother.
Would also like to reach out to the Local Sportsmen's Club in some way. Maybe get some Resorts involved.
Like I said: I've been Thinking,.....Which my Wife said "Can be Dangerous"
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| Probably the last guy you'd expect this from....but I'd love the "big-money" concept but not from a big entry fee. I think in today's world $600.00 a team (a PMTT entry) is about as expensive as you would ever want to go. That's big enough to cause a really nice event not to fill. If I ever get around to winning one of these things...I'd really rather beat 150 teams than win a few more dollars. Even 125 teams at $500.00 each would make a really nice $31,250 if half went to the winner. I'd also feel less like a donor if a really high entry was not likely to favor a few hot locals. An adddict like me is likely to go anywhere for any purse, but you really have to do your market research poroperly before you launch a product. And oh yea...please don't bring back that "staying up all night stuff 20 hour tournament--I'm already tired!" |
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| You know the last big money Tournament up here drew 80 boats in Mid- September. First place paid $80,000. with a $2,500. entry fee. Yes it did. In 2004. I'd love to be wrong about 2015!
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| 50 boats - $2,500 per team - 50K to the winners would fill fast if it was promoted well.
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| 1st Place 50K
2nd 20K
3rd 10K
4th 5K
5th 2.5K
Plan on taking $17,500 for promotion and organizing and donate 10K to Muskie stocking MN...Bam! done deal!
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Location: Eagan, MN | I like IAJustin's format. Question to the organizers though: How do you discourage some one from tying-off a couple of muskies on the end of a remote dock somewhere?? If folks are going to put what might be considered to be big money for an event, I'm sure they'd want to feel certain that the tournament will be 'clean'. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | gear it towards paying out the top 3... more money on the line for the top few spots will draw more..at least it would to me.. 2500 is a stretch imo for an entry fee... I do hope someone makes a run at doing another Bobby M type tourney |
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| if you can get 80 boats in 2004 - you would have no problem getting 50 now....there are a lot more muskie guys now!!!...make it exclusive, promote it well, get some sponsors behind it, get the MDNR behind it. It's one tournament with a big payout, and worst case - 8% of your entry fee would be going toward stocking muskies in MN - I think 50 boats would sign up in 10 days if it was promoted well. "The Minnesota World Series of Muskie fishing" - One three day tournament held every October :)
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Paying down to 3rd place, would give those who didn't place a feeling that they just donated their money, as Marty said. I would think.
Promoting this Tourney would be a major key to it's success......
Getting some sponsors would really help with the success of this Event.
$2,500. may be a bit to high for a lot of people, but $1,500.-$1,000 might draw more people in.
As far as having Fish tied to a dock... I would like to see "a no Pre- fishing day", the day before the event started.
I like that people are thinking about something like this.....Keep the thoughts and suggestions coming. |
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| do a $10,000 buy-in Winner walks away with a cool quarter million ! That would add a little excitement to any lost fish ..ha ha.
Edited by IAJustin 12/3/2014 10:54 AM
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Location: Eagan, MN | If the top prize is big, say >$50k, i think there should be a polygraph deterrent, giving the tournament organizers the right to conduct polygraph tests on the winning teams. Back in the day, this was done in some of the bass tournaments I used to enter...and, I for one, was glad they did it. They would take one member of the top three winning teams and give him/her a short and private polygraph by an expert who was on-site at the weigh-in. Took only a few minutes, but helped ensure fair play. Yes, I know there are problems with polygraphs, but most fraudsters would probably want to avoid the scrutiny. Entrants would have to agree to forfeit prizes if they could not pass. Of course, the tournament organizers would have the right - but not the obligation - to administer these. If someone like LukeR wins, I would think the organizers could feel good about foregoing them. The key is the deterrence factor.
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Location: Eagan, MN | And if I'm in for $1.5k, I'd be in for $2.5k. Don't just make it another musky tournament. This is the World Series of Musky Fishing! The Simply Fishing Classic is still looked upon as probably the biggest Musky event of all-times...brought out all the big names and generated quite a bit more interest than your run-of-the-mill musky tourney. Isn't that what we're talking about here? Go big, or go home.
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Location: Minnesota | I just seen on face book there having a " Minnesota esox challenge " this year. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | BrianF. - 12/3/2014 11:09 AM
And if I'm in for $1.5k, I'd be in for $2.5k. Don't just make it another musky tournament. This is the World Series of Musky Fishing! The Simply Fishing Classic is still looked upon as probably the biggest Musky event of all-times...brought out all the big names and generated quite a bit more interest than your run-of-the-mill musky tourney. Isn't that what we're talking about here? Go big, or go home. .
I agree Brian but, some people will be scared off by the $2,500 entry fee as opposed to the $1,500. entry fee... I think.
Going Big is the intention here. Absolutely.
A Polygraph test would be a must have for this format. |
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