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| Just ran across this. Looks like there are some new trailer laws to try and keep the invasive species from spreading rapidly. Also looks like these laws apply to EVERYONE fishing Minnesota. If you come to Minnesota to fish, you will need to go thru training and get this sticker on. http://trailers.mndnr.gov/ Just another hoop to jump through to get to the water.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Yep. Been covered already. |
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| "I'm just traveling through Minnesota from another state with my boat and trailer. Do I still need a decal?"
"Yes, Minnesota law states that anyone transporting watercraft or water-related equipment in Minnesota needs to complete training and display the decal on their trailer."
Oh yeah, I'm just traveling through and I'm going to take a course and pay for a decal just to travel through MN. OR WHAT?
I hope this doesn't catch on in other states. |
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| Why wouldn't any of the funds get put back into the DNR for research purposes to fix the problem? |
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Location: Albertville, Minnesota | Thanks Brett for posting. First I've seen of this. I'll keep my initial opinion about this to myself.
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | Iowa here I come......so if I'm going to Devils Lake or LOW I need to stop in Mn to take a trailer class? "Hello" what Idiot is in charge of that change? Whats the next thing they'll have you doing when flying and stopping at the hub in Mini, you'll need to get a colonoscopy. |
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| Does anyone really think that if they are traveling thru MN to get to the LOW or Devils Lake that will be stopped and ticketed for failure to have a stamp or sticker on their boat trailer? My guess is even if the police know about this law they will not take the time to enforce it. |
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Location: MN | I will be selling forged trailer stickers so we don't have to take this silly class. $10 a pop. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Pepper - 10/1/2014 4:14 PM
Does anyone really think that if they are traveling thru MN to get to the LOW or Devils Lake that will be stopped and ticketed for failure to have a stamp or sticker on their boat trailer? My guess is even if the police know about this law they will not take the time to enforce it.
Yeah, don't panic here guys. I realize it sounds like a huge hassle, but it will become the norm. This is meant to help the spread of the nasty stuff. It got here somehow, let's try and slow the spread. Look what it's already done to the lakes. ANYTHING I can do to help will gladly get done. |
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| Just was thinking, folks from Minnesota will be pulling into Wisconsin with a few trailers tomorrow afternoon. I wonder if they've checked to see if any running backs may be hitch hiking? Probably nothing dangerous enough to require spraying! |
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Location: Albertville, Minnesota | Pepper - 10/1/2014 4:14 PM
" Does anyone really think that if they are traveling thru MN to get to the LOW or Devils Lake that will be stopped and ticketed for failure to have a stamp or sticker on their boat trailer? My guess is even if the police know about this law they will not take the time to enforce it."
Answer to your question - No. However, don't want to get in a peeing match over this issue, but be aware of the conservation officers at the border stations coming back from Canada. Not only will they be checking skin on your walleyes, but I'm sure they will be looking for this awesome new sticker confirming you know how to unscrew your plug or drain your livewell. Just saying.
I don't know why MN went away with getting a sticker when you got checked by an AIS inspector during random landing checks. It was free and you could ask questions with the inspector.
My question is, what is next?
Edited by Serpant 10/1/2014 4:52 PM
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Location: The desert | Nershi - 10/1/2014 4:18 PM
I will be selling forged trailer stickers so we don't have to take this silly class. $10 a pop.
The real sticker is cheaper. |
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Location: Cave Run Lake KY. | sworrall - 9/30/2014 11:08 PM
Yep. Been covered already. like Sworrall said it has already been covered back to about 2 weeks to find everything you need to know. |
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| I can see them stopping people for not having a sticker, but if you're headed up to Canada, what are they going to do? You can't be forced to take a class or pay for a sticker just to drive through one state to go fish somewhere else. It's not like 10,000 anglers from IL, IN, and WI can drive around MN on their way to Canada.
I don't think the CO's are going to bother anyone either. If you've got WI tags on your boat, a passport that shows you live in WI, and WI plates on your truck, it's a pretty safe bet that when you're leaving Canada you're headed home to WI. |
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | Let's face the real issue here, is it that there trying to teach the boaters or raise more funds for the state with another fee. How many of boats are registered in Minn? How many of us are traveling down the road with weeds or a livewell full of bait? There's more than enough information at any launch to cover this issue and if you don't get it than be prepared to get fined. That will learn you more than a sticker on a trailer. Give out a couple thousand $175.00 fines and the word will spread faster than the online video.
Netman
"We need more taxes and fee's cause we're all making more money".
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Location: Elk River, MN | Yeah, it's another pain in the butt or some hoop we have to jump through. I don't think the state will be pulling people over on the highways checking for stickers, it'll be those pulling in and out of lakes. First year it will be a slap on the hand and the next year fines will be issued.
For as much as we all invest and go through to fish, taking a few minutes during the off season and a few bucks to get "certified" really isn't going to break anyone. I truly think it's an awareness issue like Netman said, and i'm sure many others have.
Even with this plan, those who don't care will continue to not follow rules/guidelines and cause the problems
In the long run a preventative plan is easier/less costly than a treatment plan |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | Pointerpride102 - 10/1/2014 5:28 PM
Nershi - 10/1/2014 4:18 PM
I will be selling forged trailer stickers so we don't have to take this silly class. $10 a pop.
The real sticker is cheaper.
"All of the training fees go directly to the company that is developing and supporting the course in order to cover the cost of running the course. No funds come to the DNR through this program."
PP - Is the company handling this for the State of Minnisota your new "garage business"? Just kidding, I know you're a big supporter of protecting our resourses from invasive species. Did you review the proposed training course? Why would nothing go to the MN DNR? Someone literally missed the boat on this one!
Someone is also going to make some big bucks, it can't cost that much for the decal and the envelope and the stamp, e.g., once they get the website setup. Is the website setup and operation on Minnisota's dime too....?
However, Minnesota lakes do benefit by raising awareness of the invasive species. I think all states benefit from this, including the Canadian Provences.
What's the penalty, if you have the sticker, and are busted w/invasives by the MN DNR or an law enforcement officer? It should be stiff!
Are all the law enforcement officers required to take the invasive species course as part of their training? That would be a good thing too.....
To bad the Great Lakes States and St. Lawrence River States didn't do the same thing for the commercial shipping industry, including requiring inspection of bilge water to ensure its salt water before entering the St. Lawrence River...
LOL- yes, I'll get the decal! However, all of us should be doing our part to protect the waters we fish automatically from invasive hitchhikers, its common sense.
Actually, I applaud Minnisota for doing this on a proactive basis, e.g., requiring all boats traveling in the state to have the decal. Is there a reciprcol agrrement with other states who have similar requirements. If not, some boat trailers will be covered in decals.
Have fun!
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Netman - 10/1/2014 3:14 PM
Iowa here I come......so if I'm going to Devils Lake or LOW I need to stop in Mn to take a trailer class? "Hello" what Idiot is in charge of that change? Whats the next thing they'll have you doing when flying and stopping at the hub in Mini, you'll need to get a colonoscopy.
No you don't need to stop in MN to take the class, you take it online before you drive through MN, pay your $5, and then don't worry about it for 3 years. I'm not saying I agree with the idea of forcing people who are just driving through to do this, but I guess their thought is that they probably don't really have a way to prove who is and is not just driving through. At the end of the day, it's not the end of the world.
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | esoxaddict - 10/1/2014 5:29 PM
I can see them stopping people for not having a sticker, but if you're headed up to Canada, what are they going to do? You can't be forced to take a class or pay for a sticker just to drive through one state to go fish somewhere else. It's not like 10,000 anglers from IL, IN, and WI can drive around MN on their way to Canada.
I don't think the CO's are going to bother anyone either. If you've got WI tags on your boat, a passport that shows you live in WI, and WI plates on your truck, it's a pretty safe bet that when you're leaving Canada you're headed home to WI.
Well technically you could enter through North Dakota. Maybe if everyone avoided MN and thus border crossing businesses took a hit, they wouldn't require it of those just passing through. |
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Location: The desert | Al,
I haven't been involved with the planning of this new requirement. There are mixed opinions about the program, but I'll lean toward the optimist side and hope that, if anything, it provides some clarification to "rumors" and "half-truths"that we run into from time to time.
People, in general, are guilty of filling in knowledge gaps with what they perceive should be the truth. That applies to most anything, not AIS specific. Often times those perceptions aren't necessarily based in reality. If anything comes from this new program, hopefully it is education. The enforcement folks I talk to are far more interested in education and awareness than writing tickets. Writing tickets galore doesn't solve much.
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Location: The desert | dami0101 - 10/2/2014 11:18 AM
esoxaddict - 10/1/2014 5:29 PM
I can see them stopping people for not having a sticker, but if you're headed up to Canada, what are they going to do? You can't be forced to take a class or pay for a sticker just to drive through one state to go fish somewhere else. It's not like 10,000 anglers from IL, IN, and WI can drive around MN on their way to Canada.
I don't think the CO's are going to bother anyone either. If you've got WI tags on your boat, a passport that shows you live in WI, and WI plates on your truck, it's a pretty safe bet that when you're leaving Canada you're headed home to WI.
Well technically you could enter through North Dakota. Maybe if everyone avoided MN and thus border crossing businesses took a hit, they wouldn't require it of those just passing through.
That's a lot of gas to save $1.67/year. |
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | Again I'm not trying to make a big deal out of $5.00, it's just that Minn does it Wiscs. does it Ill does can you see where this is going!!! Now every 3 years you need to renew a sticker for the 5 states I fish in, for what? Worrall said it in the opening post, "IT's BEEN COVERED". Don't penalize us for something we already know! Fine the violators and stay out of my wallet. |
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Location: The desert | Netman - 10/2/2014 11:36 AM
Again I'm not trying to make a big deal out of $5.00, it's just that Minn does it Wiscs. does it Ill does can you see where this is going!!! Now every 3 years you need to renew a sticker for the 5 states I fish in, for what? Worrall said it in the opening post, "IT's BEEN COVERED". Don't penalize us for something we already know! Fine the violators and stay out of my wallet.
The "it's been covered" is referencing a different post on the subject.
$8.34/year if all 5 of the states you fish adopt this program (which I very seriously doubt).
We see plenty of out of state boaters who claim to know the laws, that are essentially clueless. Often times they get educated and fined. Now, with this program there will be less availability of the "I had no idea" excuse we hear on a near daily basis, and a ticket may be prosecuted with greater ease.
I fully understand your frustration. If anyone should be exempt from doing this, it should be me. But I'm not, and I don't have that expectation (if anything I hold myself to a higher standard as I should know what I'm doing). It's really a minuscule amount of money and I don't share your fear that 5 other states will be joining the program, in some states we'd welcome it because it would be more than their current effort level. Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect solution at this time. |
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Location: Smith Creek | Pointerpride102 - 10/2/2014 12:26 PM
I fully understand your frustration.
Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect solution at this time.
Said every Vikings coach for the last 40 years. |
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| Does anyone have a link to do this class online that I might have missed. Also, what if you have multiple boats, can you request two stickers?
I think people should stop getting their undies in a bundle. From what I gather, this program is designed to educate people using waterways and to stop the spread of invasive species. Both good things in my book.. It's not like they are charging 100 bucks or something crazy.. With the cost of staffing, printing, webcosts, mailing, etc- it's not like they are making a fortune off you or anything.. They just want to protect their waterways and educate those that use it. I get that some are just driving through, but it is what it is.. I have (and am sure most of you have) peeed away a lot more money on a lot dumber stuff over the years.
EDIT: Sorry, saw link. Answered my own questions.
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | Between the 3 states of Minn, Mich, and Wisc you 2.5 million boats regisitered. Just in Minn alone you have over 800,000. Do the math. How much of this money will go towards the problem? I see there's no solution and believe me, I would like there to be one.
Bruce
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Location: The desert | The course is not up and running yet, though it is supposed to be by January 2015.
You can read the FAQs here: trailers.mndnr.gov
Extra stickers can be purchased after passing for an additional $2. |
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Location: The desert | What is AIS destruction?
Research is ongoing. Has been since the 80s.
Education has had an impact. |
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| Don't know... Chemicals? Seems they chemical the metro lakes for lakeshore home owners so they don't have to feel the weeds when they dip their toes in the water off the dock. I recently saw a full size billboard in Rogers on I94 advertising how killing weeds in the lake is great. Showed kids jumping off a floating trampoline into the lake having a good time. Research since the 80's and this paid Web class is as far as we have come? Hmmmm. |
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