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| Ok guys, I've been going to Canada for 15 years now. I've always followed the 1 case of beer or 1 liter of booze rule except once. I brought a case of beer and 1 liter of Captain Morgan. I declared the extra and from what I remember they asked me what I paid for the Captain Morgan and I told them $18 or whatever it was. They then just basically told me that costs X amount here in Canada and made me pay duty on the difference pretty much making it no different had I stopped and bought it there.
I play hockey with a guy from Canada and tonight he swore to me up and down that it's cheaper to bring extra from the US and pay duty than to buy it in Canada.
From my experience several years ago I question him.
What have you guys seen lately?
Let's assume for example a case of beer in the US is $18. And it's $48 in Canada. Are you paying $30 in duty per case nowadays or is it much cheaper than that?
This isn't an "I can't afford beer in Canada" question. Just more so an interesting thing about crossing the border.
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| I was just in Canada for the opener. My fishing buddies brought in a half gallon of rum and 5 bottles of wine and the duty was only around 40 bucks---- only took 5 minutes at the border to declare everything------ well worth it , if you ask me----- definitely better than the Canadian prices. Good luck---SN |
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| Assume your case of Canadian beer is $36 Canadian for 24 bottles (because it is), that your American dollar is going to be worth another 7% more. You should also get more mileage out of the Canadian beer at 5-6% alcohol/volume. Bring a case or bottle of your favorite drink, but buy the good stuff once you get here.  |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | If you come up here and don't spend money we don't need you. Tourism is about the money generated. When we go to Florida we spend spend spend. |
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| If you want people to spend money then don't charge $38 for a case of Coors Light. One thing to charge a little more, but good god. I'm not exactly sure how the alcohol thing works there but when we went we stopped at the LCBO store. I'm assuming this is government controlled and most of the extra money goes to the government anyway and not the individual business holder -- but I could be wrong so feel free to correct me. |
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| If you come up here and don't spend money we don't need you. Tourism is about the money generated. When we go to Florida we spend spend spend.
my plan with my fishing partner this year is to each bring 1 case plus 1 bottle, declare it and pay the tax. so it's true, the Canadian LCBO won't get that 40 bucks from us.
of course, the resort we're staying at will get $600 in lodging costs, $100 in clothing purchases, and $500 in boat gas sales. and oh yeah, that's right, we're bringing another 14 people/7 boats along with us...so that's probably another $4000 in lodging, $500 in clothing, and a $2500 in gas.
but you're right, they probably "don't need" that business and we should stay home.
Edited by M Winther 7/17/2014 7:48 AM
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| I haven't bought beer, booze, or tobacco in Canada since I experienced the sticker shock the one and only time I did. Way cheaper to pay the duty than to pay the ridiculous Canadian prices. In fact, when I used to go to AML, each year I'd bring a log (10 cans) of chew for the guides. A log of Grizzly here cost $28 or so ($2.75/tin). They were paying over $200 locally ($10/half tin). Beer was $45/case. Quit overcharging for that stuff and I'll spend my money in Canada. |
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Location: Blaine, MN | last years crossing for us... 3 guys, 10 cases of beer + 3 bottles (1 each)... We owed just shy of $80.00 at the border for everything. The border agent was appreciative that we bought everything together and just handed him the itemized receipt with individual costs and total. |
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Location: ON | Fellas, those are prices we pay here for locals. Not like were charging you guys more, those are the prices.
Imported beer upwards or $50/case. Domestic is $31 and up. There is nothing cheaper than $31 for a 24 or beer.
26 oz of whatever liquor you want will "start" at 24-25$ per bottle. There is nothing sold cheaper.
Bring it up, pay the duty, stop whining. You don't have to pay this 12 months of the year.
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Forget the booze - just FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Drink at home. |
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| Bring what you want and pay the duty |
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Location: The desert | muskie! nut - 7/17/2014 7:18 AM
Forget the booze - just FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Drink at home.
Yep. Just was up north with a buddy and we each brought a case in. I think we brought a case and a half back. |
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| I always found it cheaper to buy my 2 bottles of Crown at the Duty Free store and then pay the Canadian duty on them. |
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Location: Blaine, MN | Pointerpride102 - 7/17/2014 9:02 AM
muskie! nut - 7/17/2014 7:18 AM
Forget the booze - just FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Drink at home.
Yep. Just was up north with a buddy and we each brought a case in. I think we brought a case and a half back.
Individual vacation expectations and priorities are different.. I don't fish any less nor am I less capable because I bring a fair amount of beer. I enjoy ice cold beers while on vacation, at the fire, BS'in with the neighbors, around the grill, and during some crazy cribbage games. Plus while in camp I don't have to worry about driving anywhere!!! ahh, 16 days until we leave |
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Location: Smith Creek | Pointerpride102 - 7/17/2014 9:02 AM
muskie! nut - 7/17/2014 7:18 AM
Forget the booze - just FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Drink at home.
Yep. Just was up north with a buddy and we each brought a case in. I think we brought a case and a half back.
This may be the most offensive post I've ever seen from Pointer. And that's saying something.
Yeah, drink at home with your family, and practice sobriety when you're on vacation with your fishing buddies and your family is hundreds of miles away.
You obviously haven't been married (with children) long. |
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Location: Duluth, MN | We usually pay for it up there. For some reason cnadian beer jsut tastes better. Could be the setting I suppose! |
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Location: The desert | short STRIKE - 7/17/2014 8:46 AM
Pointerpride102 - 7/17/2014 9:02 AM
muskie! nut - 7/17/2014 7:18 AM
Forget the booze - just FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Drink at home.
Yep. Just was up north with a buddy and we each brought a case in. I think we brought a case and a half back.
Individual vacation expectations and priorities are different.. I don't fish any less nor am I less capable because I bring a fair amount of beer. I enjoy ice cold beers while on vacation, at the fire, BS'in with the neighbors, around the grill, and during some crazy cribbage games. Plus while in camp I don't have to worry about driving anywhere!!! ahh, 16 days until we leave
No doubt. I can't drink what I used to be able to in college and expect to function at really any useful level. A few cold ones after 12-14 hours of throwing musky gear and I'm sound asleep.
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| $38 for a case of Canadian beer isn't going to break the bank especially when you're paying a couple thousand combined between two guys for lodging and gas. We spent $900 in gas last year alone!
Was just curious. Thanks |
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Location: Blaine, MN |
No doubt. I can't drink what I used to be able to in college and expect to function at really any useful level. A few cold ones after 12-14 hours of throwing musky gear and I'm sound asleep.
That's my problem with mixed drinks... if I have 2, I am off my rocker. I might as well pull my couch from the cabin into the lodge and watch re runs of naked and afraid all day the next day, because it is a guarantee I am going to feel like hell. But beer is no problem.... maybe that says I am drinking beer that is to watered down. better sack up. |
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| muskie! nut - 7/17/2014 9:18 AM
Forget the booze - just FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Drink at home.
Not sure if serious... |
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Location: The desert | short STRIKE - 7/17/2014 9:33 AM
No doubt. I can't drink what I used to be able to in college and expect to function at really any useful level. A few cold ones after 12-14 hours of throwing musky gear and I'm sound asleep.
That's my problem with mixed drinks... if I have 2, I am off my rocker. I might as well pull my couch from the cabin into the lodge and watch re runs of naked and afraid all day the next day, because it is a guarantee I am going to feel like hell. But beer is no problem.... maybe that says I am drinking beer that is to watered down. better sack up.
Try drinking Utah beer for 5 years.....talk about watered down! |
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| I always bring 4 cases of beer and a bottle of captain morgan. Much cheaper than buying in canada. But I do alwaysget a case of kokanee and bottle of cherry whiskey in canada since its not sold anywhere I kno in USA. Good stuff. |
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Location: Duluth, MN | Ahh Kokanee....good stuff! |
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Location: MN | I always say I have about a liter but truly there is much more. Worse that happens is they catch it and make you pay the duty. I don't feel bad one bit because I spend plenty of tourist money elsewhere when I go to Canada. |
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Location: Minnesota | Nershi - 7/17/2014 12:44 PM I always say I have about a liter but truly there is much more. Worse that happens is they catch it and make you pay the duty. I don't feel bad one bit because I spend plenty of tourist money elsewhere when I go to Canada. That isn't too smart to lie to a border crossing agent. They are federal agents from a different country with different views of foreigners asking permission to come into their country. Worst that happens? How about this? They catch you lying and decide to prove a point to you by stripping your vehicle down to the frame at the border looking for other things you might have lied about and then chuckle as they walk away telling you that you are free to go now. Good luck putting everything back together. |
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Location: Minnesota | Back to the original question....
Here is a link to a duty calculator, not vouching for accuracy but it should help. http://www.canadiandutycalculator.ca/index.php
$48 Canadian value for a case of beer will cost you about $15 in duty. Add that to the $20 you paid for it and you would save about $13 per case of beer by paying the duty instead of buying it in Canada.
Don't kid yourselves.... Canadians come down here to spend the weekend and bring back as much as they can with them to save themselves from paying the high cost of beer in Canada too. I say support your local businesses that rely on tourism for survival but I won't be throwing money out the window of my truck just for the sake of it. There still has to be value. |
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn | Nershi - 7/17/2014 12:44 PM
I always say I have about a liter but truly there is much more. Worse that happens is they catch it and make you pay the duty. I don't feel bad one bit because I spend plenty of tourist money elsewhere when I go to Canada. The border patrol have already filed your post. They will be performing a complete vehicle teardown and thorough cavity search next time you cross.  |
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| brmusky - 7/17/2014 1:14 PM
Back to the original question....
Here is a link to a duty calculator, not vouching for accuracy but it should help. http://www.canadiandutycalculator.ca/index.php
$48 Canadian value for a case of beer will cost you about $15 in duty. Add that to the $20 you paid for it and you would save about $13 per case of beer by paying the duty instead of buying it in Canada.
Don't kid yourselves.... Canadians come down here to spend the weekend and bring back as much as they can with them to save themselves from paying the high cost of beer in Canada too. I say support your local businesses that rely on tourism for survival but I won't be throwing money out the window of my truck just for the sake of it. There still has to be value.
Thats not accurate. I always am honest with what I have and I tell them 4 cases and a bottle of captain. Most ive paid is maybe 30 bucks. Doesnt ever seem to be the same tho. Remember one case or bottle is duty free. I rode with my dad last trip and we had 8 cases and 2 bottles and the duty was 50 somethin bucks. |
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Location: MN | brmusky - 7/17/2014 1:04 PM
Nershi - 7/17/2014 12:44 PM I always say I have about a liter but truly there is much more. Worse that happens is they catch it and make you pay the duty. I don't feel bad one bit because I spend plenty of tourist money elsewhere when I go to Canada. That isn't too smart to lie to a border crossing agent. They are federal agents from a different country with different views of foreigners asking permission to come into their country. Worst that happens? How about this? They catch you lying and decide to prove a point to you by stripping your vehicle down to the frame at the border looking for other things you might have lied about and then chuckle as they walk away telling you that you are free to go now. Good luck putting everything back together.
Strip down to the frame eh? I didn't know border control agents knew how to disassemble a vehicle.
I have been pulled aside for a random search before even talking to the agents at the gate. They took EVERYTHING out of the vehicle and then emptied every bag, box, etc. So could the agents find your booze and decide to do a thorough search that you are subject to randomly anyhow? Sure they could. I guess I am willing to take that risk. I leave all my dope at home so I'm not worried about them finding anything else besides the booze.
I know a few people who have been caught with over their fair share of booze. All of them made it in to Canada after a duty fee and their vehicle was not striped to the frame.
If you are that paranoid about it then follow the rules. If you want to take a risk load up the sleeping bags with whiskey. Easy as that. |
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| Just to learn from my lesson (though it didnt cost us anything), but a case does not always equal a case. 24 - 12 ounce cans is considered a case. When asked last year how much beer we had we replied "3 cases", which they were in fact, 3 cases BUT they were pounders.
The Border Agent later went through our stuff because my buddy brought Bear Spray (note, please dont bring this or at least dont declare it because you are going to get checked) and found our 16 ounce cans. He was good about it, but said "I didnt ask and you didnt tell so its on me". We offered to pay extra since we had already paid the duty, but he said it was fine and let us on our way. |
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