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Location: NE Wisconsin | http://dnr.wi.gov/news/BreakingNews_Lookup.asp?id=3177 |
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| Some interesting results there. Thanks! Here's a link directly to the results from this year.
http://dnr.wi.gov/About/WCC/Documents/spring_hearing/2014/2014_Stat... |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The trolling vote was interesting. |
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Location: The desert | Interesting....7000 total in attendance. |
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Location: Watersmeet, Michigan | sworrall - 4/15/2014 10:24 PM
The trolling vote was interesting.
Interesting indeed, as is the continued opposition to it in Vilas County. (69 - yes, 116 - no.) I've never understood this and guess I never will.
I find the opposition to effective panfish management disappointing. Even though we now understand the necessity of the presence of mature males in maintaining healthy panfish populations, fishermen refuse to recognize the need to have effective regulations that would preserve those bull gills.
Fr. K
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Location: Oregon, WI | Yes, trolling vote was interesting. The opposition in Dane county was a surprise. |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Actually, if you think about it, it wasn't about trolling at all, it was about being able to drag a sucker while casting and not get busted for "trolling".
Trolling has always been legal on Green Bay, but go out there on a nice summer day and 18 out of 20 boats will be casting. It's tradition and a way of life for most Wisconsiner's (is that a word?).
As stated in the Question, there is no biological reason not to troll. It is legal in the rest of the world and now we have finally moved into the 21st Century. |
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| Here we go again!! If they would have worded it to only pertain to sucker fishing which is the whole intention and clear up that issue only it would have easily passed. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Mr Musky - 4/16/2014 11:14 AM
Here we go again!! If they would have worded it to only pertain to sucker fishing which is the whole intention and clear up that issue only it would have easily passed.
Not really. walleye anglers also were getting the bite on them if their line was not vertical when the were fishing using their trolling motor. Besides, you can't do it for one group and have it unlawful for another. |
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Sure there is Larry. I guess you missed reading Dettloff's recent letter to the editor in the Sawyer County Record. 
Larry Ramsell - 4/16/2014 7:39 AM
As stated in the Question, there is no biological reason not to troll. It is legal in the rest of the world and now we have finally moved into the 21st Century. |
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| 1) eliminate confusion about where trolling is legal; 2) allow anglers to trail a sucker or other minnow while under power anywhere in the State; 3) eliminate the need for disabled anglers to apply for trolling permits; and 4) provide additional fishing opportunities for anglers who may have more difficulty fishing by other methods.
1. Do you favor this compromise trolling proposal, which would allow trolling with 1 “line” (i.e., hook, bait, or lure) per angler in the 17 counties listed above (except the 31 waters already open to trolling) and would allow trolling with 3 “lines” per angler in the other 55 counties?
1. YES____
NO_____
They word it above under #2 Allow anglers to trail a sucker or minnow while under power anywhere in the state. They should have left it at that and the position fishing would have easily been cleared up. And yes that wouldnt leave out any other parties that fish for walleyes or what not.
Edited by Mr Musky 4/16/2014 11:37 AM
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Location: Appleton | I just want to know if this will actually go into effect in 2015? The DNR appears on board with this plan but it was shot down by the governors office last year saying they wanted public input. I'm fine with trolling 1 line. I have 2 younger daughters that would love to come musky fishing with me but aren't about to cast all day for a shot. Minnesota and Canada are both destination musky areas and 1 line trolling doesn't seem to be hurting their fisheries. Green Bay right here in WI doesn't seem to have problems brought on by trolling either. Just my opinion. |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | No dfkiii, I didn't miss the obviously erroneous and misleading "scare tactics" that Dettloff used in his "Letter to the Editor" of the Sawyer County Record last week. He has exactly nothing data wise to substantiate any of his false claims and therefore offered nothing to substantiate his claims. Conversely, the DNR did their homework and gathered a ton of data that shows trolling will not be harmful to the state's muskellunge fisheries and so stated at the Sawyer County meeting. According to our biologist, this "question" had absolutely nothing to do with biology! |
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Location: Appleton | jonnysled - 4/16/2014 12:14 PM
ahhh, the little johny add a line program …
It's really not about adding a line. I'd be happy with just 1 line trolling per boat. It's more about opportunity for them to get involved. |
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Location: Smith Creek | How did kids fish before trolling motors were invented?
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Outboard motors, before that oars, and before that paddles? |
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Location: Smith Creek | Ah yes, oars. Those were the things my dad made us use before we could be trusted casting muskie baits.
A lot of times we fished from shore too. It's amazing I got into fishing without having caught any fish trolling. |
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| ---- nothing will change ---- |
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| I am almost embarrassed to admit my first muskies experience was trolling with my great grandmother and her friend Mr. LeBlanc... |
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Location: MN | jimjimjim - 4/16/2014 4:20 PM
---- nothing will change ----
Kinda like the annual Waterfowl hearings? Gather opinions and then throw them right out the window. |
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Location: one foot over the line | Oars!!! Oars!!! you guys actually got oars!!?? i had to kick my feet off the back of the boat. |
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Location: Smith Creek | You had a boat?! We had a raft made of empty bottles of Wild Turkey! |
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| I don't understand why this is such a big deal, (on either side of the argument). Troll where legal, cast where not.....I am not allowed to drive 55 in a 25 mph school zone!!! WHAAAAA
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| BMuskyX - 4/16/2014 6:44 PM
I don't understand why this is such a big deal, (on either side of the argument). Troll where legal, cast where not.....I am not allowed to drive 55 in a 25 mph school zone!!! WHAAAAA
Jaimy
It's not a "big deal", but is worth discussion for the same reason people discuss any regulations, rule changes, policies, and politics. If the current rules in place are no longer what is best and what people want, then its worth debating whether or not they should be updated. Don't tell me there are no rules or laws out there that you disagree with too. Personally, I wish they would have just clarified that you are legally able to drag one live bait and cast another while intermittently under power by an electric motor.- would have cleared up the whole reason this was brought up to begin with (sucker fishing and moving the boat, some were concerned could be considered illegally trolling). Instead they bring trolling across the whole state. I fully support the legal ability to move your boat when sucker fishing, but as to trolling open state-wide, I really do not know how big the impact will be. Most studies say that where its been reintroduced, it has not had a significant impact...but I think there is still a valid reason to be concerned on certain bodies of water. Thank god we live in a democracy where we can at least pretend to have some involvement in rules and regulations instead of a dictatorship where we are just told what the rules are and have no voice whatsoever. |
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Location: oswego, il | Trolling is like going 55 in a 25? How did Pointer miss this post? |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | Actually it's more like going 25 in a 55. 
ToddM - 4/17/2014 10:49 AM
Trolling is like going 55 in a 25? How did Pointer miss this post? |
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| I find it hard to belive that trolling will be more detrimental to the fishery than single hook sucker rigs or improper used quick strike. |
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Location: The desert | ToddM - 4/17/2014 9:49 AM
Trolling is like going 55 in a 25? How did Pointer miss this post?
It'd be a full time job if I had to keep up with stuff like this. |
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| FishFinder87 - 4/17/2014 10:38 AM
Most studies say that where its been reintroduced, it has not had a significant impact...but I think there is still a valid reason to be concerned on certain bodies of water.
Nice post, but I'm curious...you say "most" studies.
Do you know of ANY studies showing ANY adverse impact to any fishery as a result of an introduction of trolling, or, trolling in general?
I'm not aware of any. But I'd be interested in reading any, if there are. |
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| Matt DeVos - 4/17/2014 11:44 AM
FishFinder87 - 4/17/2014 10:38 AM
Most studies say that where its been reintroduced, it has not had a significant impact...but I think there is still a valid reason to be concerned on certain bodies of water.
Nice post, but I'm curious...you say "most" studies.
Do you know of ANY studies showing ANY adverse impact to any fishery as a result of an introduction of trolling, or, trolling in general?
I'm not aware of any. But I'd be interested in reading any, if there are.
The point of my post was just to point out that it is a topic worth discussing. I'm not an expert on the effects of trolling, but realize there are two sides to this debate. I'm not taking either side here, but am interested to hear more from both. |
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