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Ranger
Posted 3/3/2003 12:35 PM (#62226)
Subject: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





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Yo Jason, when will you/we begin planning for the match fishing this season? Seemed like a big success last year, so we'll do it again, right?
Slamr
Posted 3/3/2003 1:05 PM (#62229 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Yeppers, doing it again! Going to be a few changes....for one, I will be winning this year!

Slamr
Shep
Posted 3/3/2003 1:11 PM (#62231 - in reply to #62229)
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Gonna hire a guide again this year, Slamr? HA!!
MuskyPippo
Posted 3/3/2003 1:18 PM (#62232 - in reply to #62231)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003




Posts: 532


Location: Chicago, IL
You guys better watch out for me.....the late entry. And best of all I'm going to do it on Illinois waters...do I get a handi-cap for that? lol...I dont need it...Beware!

-Phil
tomyv
Posted 3/3/2003 1:32 PM (#62234 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003




Posts: 1310


Location: Washington, PA
Can't wait.
nwild
Posted 3/3/2003 2:06 PM (#62238 - in reply to #62234)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





Posts: 1996


Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain
Didn't make it last year, but count me in this year. I can see the finals all ready, my boat against Worrall's on Pelican.
Mikes Extreme
Posted 3/3/2003 3:00 PM (#62242 - in reply to #62238)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
Slamr are you going to fish this time. By the way who won the match fishing thing. It was down to two last time I checked, never new who won. How about last years standings? Can someone post them? Thanks, Mike.
MeHabeeb
Posted 3/3/2003 3:18 PM (#62246 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





Posts: 492


Location: Lindenhurst, Illinois
Team Dave is in.
theedz155
Posted 3/3/2003 3:40 PM (#62247 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





Posts: 1438


I'm sure you can count me and Sluggo in. Maybe we'll actually advance by catching a fish this year.

Scott
PunchandJudy
Posted 3/3/2003 4:20 PM (#62250 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





Posts: 267


Location: Lake City,Pa.
We are ready to rumble again!!
Trophymuskie
Posted 3/3/2003 4:42 PM (#62253 - in reply to #62226)
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Posts: 1430


Location: Eastern Ontario
I almost had it in the bag last year, but I let the kid from Mn have it. this year is going to be different and the Ottawa Rivermen will kick butt.
Ranger
Posted 3/3/2003 10:12 PM (#62284 - in reply to #62253)
Subject: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





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I see I'm not the only one looking forward to this year's competition. Team Stella Blue will be ready.
MUSKYJ
Posted 3/3/2003 11:15 PM (#62287 - in reply to #62226)
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Location: in front of my comp
Vive the Rivermen!
sworrall
Posted 3/4/2003 11:51 AM (#62333 - in reply to #62287)
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Posts: 32885


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I'm thinkin Beav and I will be in again, and this year will stick those pigs thay slipped us last year...
DUCK
Posted 3/4/2003 4:15 PM (#62364 - in reply to #62226)
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Posts: 536


Location: Brainerd Area
TAEM GNOGH IS IN AGAIN FOR SURE.
DUCK & CADY WILL MAKE IT PAST THE FIRST ROUND THIS YEAR. I HOPE!!!!!!

DUCK
esoxjunkie
Posted 3/4/2003 8:41 PM (#62394 - in reply to #62226)
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Posts: 364


Location: in the white boat
If I drum up a partner can I play too?
Krappie
Posted 3/4/2003 8:46 PM (#62396 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





Posts: 419


Location: Appleton, WI
Looks like my brother doesn't want to fish with me. Something like, Mike's Extreme kicking his rear end too hard, and he can't take another whooping.

But count me and my fishing partner Frogger in. We'll be known as Team Clubbin' ... (Thought you'd appreciate that Mike,John, and Jason.ha,ha,ha.)

catch ya later,
Krappie

Edited by Krappie 3/4/2003 8:48 PM
Thick Shady
Posted 3/4/2003 8:58 PM (#62397 - in reply to #62396)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003




Posts: 136


No Mille Lacs this year Duck.

Lake AX!

or Bust.
Thick Shady
Posted 3/4/2003 9:03 PM (#62399 - in reply to #62397)
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Posts: 136


Or we could go to Bemidji!!!

Slamr
Posted 3/5/2003 12:43 AM (#62418 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





Posts: 7036


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
I am probably going to be running this deal this season, so are there any suggestions going into this? Figure that we do the mad seeding dash about the last week in April....then start this in June, with 5 rounds, championship to be done in October.
Here's some ideas (JUST IDEAS!!!)

-seed from the top 2 to 4 finishers from last year? they did kind of earn it (that would make MNEsox #1, TrophyMuskie #2)
-alternate partners/alternate teams only used in the first 2 rounds.
-IF we have EXTRA alternate teams (ie. can't get in before 32 teams are seeded), where they can (thinking WI and non-closed season waters) they duke it out for the right to be alternates by competing in May.
-Prizes? this sort of increases the importance of the HONOR SYSTEM
-sticking with the household items in pictures, to be displayed within 3 days of the stated duke it out day, item to be given the day before.
-no picture on site, no counting the picture.....no household item in the picture, no counting the picture.

Any other ideas? Like I said, I want ideas, but I can't promise we will use all of them! Luke_Chinewalker/JM03/MuddButt/Joey/Lunch_Box....I know you have ideas, you know I value your opinions, just don't hurt my feelings....you know how fragile I get.
*tell your friends, neighbors, enemies, co-workers, in-laws and ex's about this, lets get it ROCKING!!!
**Musky for Lunch is going to win by the way.

Slamr


Slamr
Posted 3/5/2003 12:57 AM (#62419 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





Posts: 7036


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
OK, the question of GUIDES came up last year....think of how you want to deal with this issue.
My thought: guides are in...if they (in the first 2 rounds) can't fish with their allotted partner, then they can use a client, A client, not 2 or more (honor system). If you are fishing with a guide (ie. you are PAYING him more than coffee/gas) for the day, if you are with your partner, or in the first 2 rounds with an alternate, cool. But after the first 2 rounds, the guide cannot become your alternate, its the rules anyways. THIS IS FOR FUN AND GOOD NATURED COMPETITION(with growling and snarling), IF WE HAVE PRIZES, THEY WILL PROBABLY NOT BE WORTH SPENDING ALOT OF MONEY ON TO WIN.....GOD HELP THE PERSON WHO HAS AN EGO SO BIG THEY HAVE TO WIN THIS CONTEST SO BAD THEY HAVE TO SPEND $200-$300 TO DO SO.

A few things I want to stress now, and throughout the contest:
a. this is for fun, no feelings need to get hurt, no friendships ruined over it.
b. whenever possible, blame me...I am the root of all evil, and therefore shall take all responsibility for all the problems of the world, and the problems with this contest. If you have an issue, or a difficulty in scheduling, consult me first. I will mull the problem over/consult my crack think tank of minds, and we shall resolve problems.
c. interpret the "spirit" of the rules, don't push the wording of the rules to your advantage...see rule a. for further reason why this is.
d. the "musky gods" are judging you at all times.....consult rules a. and letter c.
e. before entering, please consider the amount of time that you will have to fish....this does take time, and yes we bent the rules to a large degree last year to get everyone to fish....but I would like to try to avoid more conflict this year, while still filling at least 32 teams.

Bring on the suggestions...if they are of a "sensitive nature", please email me.
[email protected]
Slamr
*just a thought....if anyone would like to SPONSOR this event....email me?
Ranger
Posted 3/5/2003 6:54 AM (#62424 - in reply to #62419)
Subject: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





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Hey Slamr - I have an idea for you to consider. (Actually it's a whine I've carried with me since last year's event.) Not sure if there is a way or a good reason to do somthing about it. Here goes...

I was beat out first day because, even though I boated two fish, the rascal I was competing with (Ralph Florio) boated two bigger fish. It kind of burned me to see fishless team advance only because they were seeded lower than the fishless team they fished against. In fact, didn't Steve Cady make it to August or September without boating a single fish?! Or was that Shep?

Anyway, I was hoping that we could consider changing the rules so fishless teams are "trumped out" by teams that boated fish but still lost the match.

Now, I can live with however this turns out, don't try to make big changes just for me. But I thought my idea is worth considering.
Trophymuskie
Posted 3/5/2003 8:07 AM (#62431 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





Posts: 1430


Location: Eastern Ontario

I think last years event went pretty well. Now there is a few things that can be improved on that's for sure. I like the idea of " fastest loser advance vs seeds" but this can be a problem if we have 3 fishless winning teams and 2 losing teams with fish. Then your getting down to a draw and not good.

One thing that I saw that will need improving is the schedualing, I would suggest a limit as to when the dates should be set in stone and not changed, like lets say the 7th of the month giving the teams 7+ days to get things together. Once dates are set in stone they cannot be changed by nether team. I would also suggest that we set a weekend vs just 1 day, still make it a one day event but one team may fish Saturday and the other Sunday but the dates would be set on the 7th and maybe a week in advance as to it be the Sat or Sun. Now for the Championship in October now this should be a 2 day all out bashing event as everyone has more time to fit this in.

Have to stick with the "item" in the pictures thats a classic but lets limit it to items on the smaller size. Having to carry a lawnchair on a trip was a bit** and the rake in my boat got me a lot of questions.

mavmskyb8
Posted 3/5/2003 8:38 AM (#62433 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003





Posts: 260


Location: Kentucky
Where can I get a copy of the rules? It sounds to me like you 'all pick a day or days to fish, people fish on thier home waters and report back there success or lack of? Or is everyone fishing the same waters on the same day?
tomyv
Posted 3/5/2003 9:11 AM (#62441 - in reply to #62433)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003




Posts: 1310


Location: Washington, PA
mav, It is set up to fish on the same day, any waters you like. Basically just to have some fun and "friendly" competition.
Jim K
Posted 3/5/2003 9:29 AM (#62445 - in reply to #62441)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003




Posts: 736


Location: Hartford, WI
I have been in plenty of baseball, waterfight and other tourneys. and in most of them you draw a number for the starting position, like we did last year, first 32 teams sign up and your seeded on how the post was, and I think this was fair, even though I had the same problem that ranger did, and its part of the draw. I think its fair, and you need to keep it very simple other wise we will spend more time trying to figure it out and no time to actually fish. The other option, is to have a qualifing round. Everyone would have to have 1 day fishing, before June 29 and have the date announced to the organizer so they can get them a house hould item. Then the fish from that day would end up altimatly being there seed. The highest they could seed would be number 5. Because the final 4 from last year automatically get the first 4 seeds. The ideas for this are endless but all you need to do slamr is set rules, if they dont like them, then dont participate or just deal with them. If you make this too complicated it might get ugly.

Jim
MuskyPippo
Posted 3/5/2003 2:14 PM (#62468 - in reply to #62445)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003




Posts: 532


Location: Chicago, IL
I don't know if someone has already mentioned this, but I do beleive there should be a day chosen by the contestants to place. This way it will keep a fair ranking of teams.

In other words, each team competing tells Slamr the day they are going out...depending on how they do that day (inches of fish) determines where they stand before the 1st round (except the top 2 from last season). This way we have a decent feel for teams being matched up instead of random match-ups.

Might also be a good idea to keep rankings by inches of fish like in a tourney this way there are no teams passing rounds on fishless days and teams being DQ'd after having a good day.

After reading my post, I guess just kind of base it on the NHL playoffs..LOL

-Phil C.
Jim K
Posted 3/5/2003 3:08 PM (#62472 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003




Posts: 736


Location: Hartford, WI
Slamr here is a wild Idea. Everyone who CAUGHT fish last year are in. and will be seeded accordingly. Teams that blanked, and new teams fight it out for the remaining spots, having a one day qualifying day. Just a though

Jim
Jim K
Posted 3/5/2003 3:09 PM (#62473 - in reply to #62226)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003




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Location: Hartford, WI
Sorry Double Post

Edited by Jim K 3/5/2003 3:10 PM
MuskyPippo
Posted 3/5/2003 3:17 PM (#62474 - in reply to #62473)
Subject: RE: M1 Match Fishing in 2003




Posts: 532


Location: Chicago, IL
New year, new standings...if you benefit teams from last year (other than finalists) you deter new people from getting into this fun event.

Everyone starts back at the big goose egg if you ask me....Last year is gone.

-Phil C.
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