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Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?
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YES102 Votes - [74.45%]
NO35 Votes - [25.55%]

Message Subject: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?
Slamr
Posted 3/5/2014 4:36 PM (#696513)
Subject: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 7038


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Would you guys want to see/read weekly reports from area guides or resorts? Though they probably wouldnt give spot names, more to discuss general patterns, post pics, make us drool and be jealous etc.

Vote Yes/No, Please!
Flambeauski
Posted 3/5/2014 4:57 PM (#696516 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?




Posts: 4343


Location: Smith Creek
No thanks. I like that this site has relatively little advertising.
Slamr
Posted 3/5/2014 5:19 PM (#696527 - in reply to #696516)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 7038


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Flambeauski - 3/5/2014 4:57 PM

No thanks. I like that this site has relatively little advertising.


I get your point, BUT, I would try to push those posting to actually give info on fish catches, conditions, tactics...not just "fish are biting, come to my place/hire me". AND, there would NOT BE ANY 'for my fishing report, go to my site at http://www.fishingguidepleasehireme.com

Point well taken, feedback appreciated.
esoxaddict
Posted 3/5/2014 5:31 PM (#696530 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 8781


Hmm. How do you get around the shameless self promotion? How do you get around the fishing reports that basically show a bunch of pictures of big fish that may or may not have been caught this year or even out of that resort? How do you get around the posters who tell everyone fish have been caught in the weeds on an orange bucktail, only to have the guys headed up that week spend three days throwing orange bucktails in the weeds, get frustrated, hire a guide, and find out that it was really black bucktails and it was really rocks, And said resort owner was just trying to get more guide business?

While I am generally FOR the idea, and I think it would be a great asset to both anglers and resort owners alike, there's a lot of lying that goes on in musky fishing. Most of the guys are honest and really just want people to come up, catch fish, and have a good time so they come back next year. But there are those who just want to promote their business, and will not share anything of any substance...
Slamr
Posted 3/5/2014 5:36 PM (#696532 - in reply to #696530)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 7038


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
I think our users have a pretty good 'BS Filter', and not to worry, if I go out to these types of people and say "hey, post your reports here", I'll be pretty clear with expectations.
Flambeauski
Posted 3/5/2014 6:01 PM (#696539 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?




Posts: 4343


Location: Smith Creek
If its an open forum it will require a TON of babysitting, especially in August when temps are high. Then there's the disgruntled clients, weekend warriors who were cut off, or worse yet, skunked when the guide did well.
It could get messy, just sayin.
Slamr
Posted 3/5/2014 6:03 PM (#696540 - in reply to #696539)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 7038


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Flambeauski - 3/5/2014 6:01 PM

If its an open forum it will require a TON of babysitting, especially in August when temps are high. Then there's the disgruntled clients, weekend warriors who were cut off, or worse yet, skunked when the guide did well.
It could get messy, just sayin.


Versus the B/S/T forum? Oy, that one I moderate before 7AM and still have to check in and hack away at crap all day long...for you, I do it all for all of you!!!
Kirby Budrow
Posted 3/5/2014 6:49 PM (#696558 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 2325


Location: Chisholm, MN
I don't care to see reports. All it would do is help guys chase internet bites, and by the time they chase it the bite is over anyway.
Propster
Posted 3/5/2014 6:51 PM (#696560 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?




Posts: 1901


Location: MN
Sure, could be just like Outdoor News. Info that's a week late and not that accurate to begin with
teddy b
Posted 3/5/2014 7:54 PM (#696573 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?




Posts: 158


I like the idea. "All the negativity in this town sucks"
muskiewhored
Posted 3/5/2014 8:43 PM (#696587 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Location: Oswego, IL
Create their own little section like "guide reports" or "guide news" However, I can almost bet you'll have "GUEST" making false claims on guides shortly after launching this topic. Not everyone can see BS, especially if they say the right things (maybe a competitor guide).
Sidejack
Posted 3/5/2014 9:24 PM (#696599 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?




Posts: 1084


Location: Aurora
I like the idea.
Guides and resort owners live & die by referrals.
Misleading or playing games with their bread & butter would be suicide for um.
They're takin the risks - Jest more info for us.
sworrall
Posted 3/5/2014 9:48 PM (#696608 - in reply to #696587)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
muskiewhored - 3/5/2014 8:43 PM

Create their own little section like "guide reports" or "guide news" However, I can almost bet you'll have "GUEST" making false claims on guides shortly after launching this topic. Not everyone can see BS, especially if they say the right things (maybe a competitor guide).

As with all forums on MuskieFIRST, we can choose to allow or not allow 'guest' posts. This one would not.
ARmuskyaddict
Posted 3/5/2014 10:55 PM (#696617 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 2024


I would be for it, but only if the guide states if they fish out of the front of the boat or not...
muskiewhored
Posted 3/6/2014 9:26 PM (#696891 - in reply to #696608)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Location: Oswego, IL
sworrall - 3/5/2014 9:48 PM

muskiewhored - 3/5/2014 8:43 PM

Create their own little section like "guide reports" or "guide news" However, I can almost bet you'll have "GUEST" making false claims on guides shortly after launching this topic. Not everyone can see BS, especially if they say the right things (maybe a competitor guide).

As with all forums on MuskieFIRST, we can choose to allow or not allow 'guest' posts. This one would not.


Then Sir I believe this will be fair and heavily monitored. Have fun Slamr

Edited by muskiewhored 3/6/2014 9:27 PM
Netmaster
Posted 3/6/2014 11:28 PM (#696909 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?




Posts: 68


I think guides already bring enough pressure to some lakes get clients out do good then there clients bring there buddys out it gets packed quick, also I dont know why a guide would want to share that information online if the reports are specific to there lake I think thats why your paying them

Edited by Netmaster 3/6/2014 11:30 PM
chadw18
Posted 3/6/2014 11:44 PM (#696911 - in reply to #696608)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 364


Location: Central Wisconsin
sworrall - 3/5/2014 9:48 PM

muskiewhored - 3/5/2014 8:43 PM

Create their own little section like "guide reports" or "guide news" However, I can almost bet you'll have "GUEST" making false claims on guides shortly after launching this topic. Not everyone can see BS, especially if they say the right things (maybe a competitor guide).

As with all forums on MuskieFIRST, we can choose to allow or not allow 'guest' posts. This one would not.


x3
Cody
Posted 3/8/2014 5:24 PM (#697443 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?




Posts: 358


I like the idea.
MuskyMulisha
Posted 3/8/2014 8:06 PM (#697482 - in reply to #697443)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Bad Idea.
sworrall
Posted 3/8/2014 8:25 PM (#697488 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Maybe the unobservant haven't noticed....this has been a regular occurrence scattered throughout the forums for years.
Moltisanti
Posted 3/8/2014 9:21 PM (#697500 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?




Posts: 639


Location: Hudson, WI
Do it. Spice it up a bit.
VMS
Posted 3/8/2014 10:25 PM (#697509 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 3480


Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Let's say I'm planning a vacation to a certain county of a certain state. If my time is limited, for fishing muskies, I can come on here, quickly check to get a feel for the general pattern that might be existing on the area lakes, and use that information to determine my strategy for fishing....

I know when I am up north, I listed to radio reports, which gives me an idea of what may be going on with the area lakes. I feel this forum would be no different other than it is written word rather than spoken word on the radio.

Specific lakes may or may not be mentioned, and if an area guide is leaving a message or giving a report, it may be a general report if he fishes many of the area lakes, but if the guide is fishing only one body of water (like leech, vermilion, etc. and only spends their time at that body of water) it could be a forum just for that body of water.

I would think you could have guide report forums such as:
Vilas county Lakes
Sawyer County lakes
Oneida County Lakes
Leech Lake
Vermilion Lake
Mille Lacs Lake
etc...


Steve
Trophyseeker50
Posted 3/9/2014 8:52 AM (#697542 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 791


Location: WI
If it is a separate section it give those guys a spot. We don't have to look at it if we don't want to. I'm sure there are sections of this website that don't interest some people. I do agree that you guys would probably have your hands full monitoring that though.

Edited by Trophyseeker50 3/9/2014 8:58 AM
horsehunter
Posted 3/9/2014 9:10 AM (#697546 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?




Location: Eastern Ontario
I never expect the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth from fishermen even less so from guides.
muskyhunter47
Posted 3/9/2014 10:17 AM (#697580 - in reply to #697546)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
I say go for it. I like Seeing big muskies give it a season sees how it goes. If it Works keep it going if not don't do it next year
VMS
Posted 3/9/2014 10:32 AM (#697584 - in reply to #697546)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 3480


Location: Elk River, Minnesota
"LOL Frank. You know it will be an ego fest. All about how many and how big nothing about how to or where."


I believe it to be very unfair to make assumptions without seeing the product out there yet. Slam'r does an excellent job of moderating, and I am quite confident the guidelines he sets out for a forum section such as this would be followed quite well.

Steve



Edited by VMS 3/9/2014 10:34 AM
esoxaddict
Posted 3/9/2014 2:38 PM (#697655 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 8781


There will be this or that guide or resort owner who just doesn't get it, and posts information that's not worth much. There will be those who just post the usual "come to our camp our camp is great" speech.

But there will be others who realize that the amount of publicity, the amount of traffic we get around here, and the sheer exposure of your name if nothing else is a gold mine. Word of mouth is great, but this is a lot like national television.

It won't be long before the smart ones figure out that their camp is full and their calendar is booked with new business because of a bunch of guys who had no idea who to hire or where to go found them on MuskieFIRST and read great reviews.

Doesn't matter how great you are if nobody has ever heard of you.
pondigger
Posted 3/9/2014 5:07 PM (#697683 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: RE: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?




Posts: 118


I've always appreciated Justin's posts from Mylies.....I'm sure he's gotten a lot of guests from that alone......even tho I fish a different part of LOTW, it gives me an idea of where to start and what to throw.....surprised at how few resorts posts reports of any species and how the fishing is......
jonnysled
Posted 3/9/2014 5:30 PM (#697694 - in reply to #697683)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
can we dedicate a thread to leader recommendations too?
Langkamp's Guide Svc
Posted 3/9/2014 6:06 PM (#697705 - in reply to #696513)
Subject: Re: Guide and Resort Reports - Yes/No?





Posts: 77


It'd give us Hayward guides a shot showing this forum some of the hawgs we pull from this area!
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