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Location: Smith Creek | Been seeing a lot more traffic on my local rivers from guys casting the fat line, how many of you would read or contribute if the Almighty Administrators added a Fly Forum? |
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| I would contribute, super fun way to fish. |
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| I've been flyfishing for muskies for five years. I played with it for a season, now it is all I do. Started tying flies again. At least I can see the hooks. 6/0 and 8/0. 10"-18" flies. It would be great to see more Flyfishing equipment at the Muskie expos.
It is dangerous on windy days. Only had to use hook removal tools on myself twice.
No barbs any more. |
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Location: WI | If I could figure out an easier leader system, and casting far wasn't so @#$ hard... I would try it more. |
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| I typically run a shorter leader, 80lb to 60lb fluoro and it works fine. I use smaller flies and an 8wt, makes it more enjoyable and good results. I tend to sight fish, those neutral to negative fish seem to enjoy the fly. BR |
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Location: Smith Creek | Struggling with a leader system myself, each has advantages and drawbacks. But yeah, short.
Been tossing the big flies mostly, taken a few on the back of the noggin. Like getting shot with an air gun. Right rod and line (and technique) and they practically cast themselves.
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| I use the KISS formula for leaders. I tie blood knots in 24" of 50#, 16" of 40#, 12-10" of 30# and then nail knot an 8 inch section of 174# wire, and twist the wire back over the knot and on itself twice. I then put a stay-lok on the end and use shrink-tube to keep it straight. |
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Location: Roscoe IL | I just purchased a Sage Response 990-4 with a larger reel and a handfull of flies. Holy cow do I need to practice my casting and I need lot's of clearance. Landed a huge tree branch on a backcast and put it away after I cut the line. Need a new leader already. I also smacked myself on the back of my head, laughed it off and set it down before I hurt someone or myself. Sure would like to take a few lessons from April Vokey. |
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| A lesson doesn't hurt, but also keep in mind that 80 feet is a super long cast. If you learn to feel the rod load and also keep to shorter casts you will catch on in no time. You will also keep from hurting yourself:) |
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Location: Grantsburg, Wisc | I have a Loomis 12 wt that's been sitting in the corner of my rod room for about 6 years.
Maybe this is what I need to get me motivated to use it.
Otherwise I could probably use it to pull stumps....
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Location: Ontario | I voted no, but would like to change my vote due to the trolling option being added. |
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Location: Smith Creek | ski junkie - 7/2/2013 2:32 PM
I have a Loomis 12 wt that's been sitting in the corner of my rod room for about 6 years.
Maybe this is what I need to get me motivated to use it.
Otherwise I could probably use it to pull stumps....
I test drove a 12 weight for about 30 minutes. I think lead-core might have loaded it. Fly line definitely did not. |
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Location: Elgin, IL | It seems like too much work.
And the economy and my family are beating me up enough already. |
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| Northwind Mark - 7/2/2013 4:16 PM
It seems like too much work.
And the economy and my family are beating me up enough already.
It is less physical work than burning big blades, just takes a bit more smarts. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | can you just drive the boat around with a fly dragging behind? i want easy ... |
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Location: Elgin, IL | Can I fish live bait with a fly rod? |
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Location: Minnesota. | I'd be more than willing to contribute. It's nearly taken over my life, that fly rod. From panfish to bass, pike trout and now muskies.
I'll be on the V right after the 4th in a white Ranger/Yam 150 and sometimes will be swinging the fly rod. If you happen to notice swing by and ask what everyone else does when I'm on their muskie spot..."What in the H are you fishing for?"
The BIG net might give it away.
Wolf Bay, a couple seasons back...(old 681 that I now longer have)...
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Little guy (just under 40") but a ton of fun topside. My best on the fly is 43" on an 8wt w/a 9 line. No need for huge flies for me.
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| Count me in. I had Elk River build me a 10 weight. Had one on but learned the hard way that the hook set isn't the same as fly fishing for trout. Looking forward to getting more (fly) time on muskie water! |
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| jonnysled - 7/2/2013 4:57 PM
can you just drive the boat around with a fly dragging behind? i want easy ...
I know someone who was getting fish on the fly when nothing else was working, then the next day it was too windy to cast so they pulled the flies around with the trolling motor and continued to catch fish, open water fish I might add. |
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Location: Bloomington, MN | I've purchased Mr. Tomes beautiful book, and love the photographs. I've acquired
lots of gear...12wt., 11 wt., 10 wt., 8 wt., qualitly rods with not so cheap reels and spare spools to match. I had good intentions, but have completely fizzled out with my desire to pursue the elusive with a fly. Maybe an additional forum would help light a fire under my @$$ to get me motivated, but it may also present an opportunity to sell this stuff for next to nuthin'! I will have a rigged fly rod in the boat during the KWMC on Pelican and the Hodag in case I do have fish follow a lure. They do mindlessly eat a fly for some strange reason.
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I'd contribute, but I don't know if it'd have much traffic. Only see a few fly fishing threads on here every once in a while. There's a couple groups of muskie fly guys and one of those groups hang out a lot on fly fishing websites that have muskie/pike/warmwater sections.
As for leaders, 15 years ago I worried about leader formulas and blood knots; and it's not wrong to do that...now I run short and sweet. Sometimes running a bite tippet directly off a clear fly line. I keep them simple and just use different leaders for each fly line. |
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Location: Minnesota. | If I might offer, I do a good bit of fooling around with my flycasting in the backyard and love it. It's my main hobby.
While I'm not going to be claiming to be any better than a good, solid average, any newby's out there that would like some casting help on the lawn sometime I'd love to be able to help any way I can. You don't need to get out there 1/4 mile but I can likely help you get more distance with lots less effort if you think it would be beneficial.
I'll get you to tighten up that loop, if you need it, bigtime!
Or...just plain fun to fling some lines. Coon Rapids, MN.
Jeremy.
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| I don't know how long a 14" sucker will last whipping it around like that. I mean, whipn it real good. ?
I also don't know how thick those quick-strike rubber bands will have to be. Extra HD.
I don't know if Herbie has any of those.
I like the idea of the addition to the board though...we already have miscreants here anyway. And it seems like a cool way to fish. |
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Location: E. Tenn | PamuskEhunt - 7/2/2013 3:01 PM
I use the KISS formula for leaders. I tie blood knots in 24" of 50#, 16" of 40#, 12-10" of 30# and then nail knot an 8 inch section of 174# wire, and twist the wire back over the knot and on itself twice. I then put a stay-lok on the end and use shrink-tube to keep it straight.
That's simple enough!! Thanks!
As for adding a forum, why not give it a shot? I suppose you can always get rid of it if the traffic isn't there.. just my $.02..
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| I'm just trying to find time to learn. I have a beautiful 9 wt Cortland with a nice Lamson and a few flies. There is virtually no Muskie specific fly info out there. Its mostly "Pike/Muskie" stuff. Which is the equivalent of "apples/oranges!" |
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| Ben Olsen - 7/3/2013 11:54 PM
I'm just trying to find time to learn. I have a beautiful 9 wt Cortland with a nice Lamson and a few flies. There is virtually no Muskie specific fly info out there. Its mostly "Pike/Muskie" stuff. Which is the equivalent of "apples/oranges!"
Take a class on fly tying. "Esoxfly" has posted some killer paterns in the past. Muskie flies and pike flies are two different animals. Although, some of the smallest pike will hammer some of our biggest flies. Just stupid. If you get into the tying part you will be hooked. On windy days that could be taken two ways. Flatten the barbs. |
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| Count me in.
Tom |
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Location: Minnesota. | My fav. rigging....From the end of your fly line which has a loop tied in the end by way of 3/0 tying thread and the wraps coated with "something hard". I use Sally Hansens Hard As Nails.
Make a 6-7 ft leader out of any 20-30 lb mono. The cheap stuff. You can spend a lot of $$ if you wish ...
As you might tell, I don't use a tapered leader for turning over the fly. A tight cast, the leader straightens and you get the presentation to turn over. For warmwater that's all I need. For trout, that's a whole 'nuther story..;-)) There, it's critical for a drag-free drift etc.
Tie a Perfection loop in the end of this mono leader. Small loop. On the business end I use some supple, braided 26 lb (approx.) American brand Wire or Tyger brand wire.
Attach this to the leader via an Allbright knot and leave it about 16" long. This length makes it easier to use more flies w/o having to re-tie another wire tippet on....nothing other than that. I'll change/re-tie another wire tippet when I get down to around 6-8" left!
The knot!
It's called a Jig Loop. Tie an overhand knot about 3" from the end of the wire tippet BUT don't pull it totally shut. Leave it "just loose enough" to insert the end of this wire back into. Now put the tag end into the hook eye.
Now push this tag end through that overhand knot...that you left loose "enough" but not too loose, right? Now, take and make a 1/2 hitch just behind that overhand knot and snug it up.
Make a second 1/2 hitch again behind this one but this time pull her tight with a pair of pliers!
Done! If it turned out right..and sometimes it doesn't, depending on how tight that overhand knot was...you'll end up with a neat little "jig loop" that your fly can swing freely on!!!
If it didn't turn out just perfect don't sweat it. Fish it anyhow. And I find it best to try to tie a few of these in the plain cheap mono before I go fishing...for a test!
Really, it's simple.
Yeah, wire kinks but only when I finish tussling with a fish. If it's too bad I'll just re-tie. And last but not least I prefer to omit any and all hardware as I've had snaps come loose too often plus they're extra weight.
YMMV.
Jeremy.
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Corso Mike - 7/4/2013 10:43 AM Ben Olsen - 7/3/2013 11:54 PM I'm just trying to find time to learn. I have a beautiful 9 wt Cortland with a nice Lamson and a few flies. There is virtually no Muskie specific fly info out there. Its mostly "Pike/Muskie" stuff. Which is the equivalent of "apples/oranges!" Take a class on fly tying. "Esoxfly" has posted some killer paterns in the past. Muskie flies and pike flies are two different animals. Although, some of the smallest pike will hammer some of our biggest flies. Just stupid. If you get into the tying part you will be hooked. On windy days that could be taken two ways. Flatten the barbs. Thanks. The beauty of tying for muskies is the freedom you have to tie with; just like making conventional muskie baits...if you make it, eventually something will eat it. I've always tied on the larger side, even for pike. For patterns or styles, like I mentioned above, many muskie fly fishermen more often frequent fly fishing and tying forums in the muskie or warmwater section. Most of them will have a "muskie flies" thread with all kinds of pics. |
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Location: Smith Creek | Trouble with the Fly Fishing sites is they have Muskie/Pike threads for fly fisherman. I think it would be cool to have fly fishing threads for muskie fisherman. The Fly Fishing sites assume too much, IMO. |
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