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djwilliams
Posted 6/4/2013 9:41 AM (#644760)
Subject: Yellow belly spot




Posts: 767


Location: Ames, Iowa
2 of the muskies I've caught out of Leech and my son's 51 incher last summer all had a curious yellow spot about 1/2 inch in diameter on their belly. We were wondering bout this the other day. Is it genetics or it a marker for stocked fish?
big spotty
Posted 6/4/2013 10:02 AM (#644764 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: RE: Yellow belly spot


have seen it on a few Mille Lacs and Cass lake fish too. doubt it's genetics but I don't have any better guesses
North Philly
Posted 6/4/2013 10:20 AM (#644766 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: RE: Yellow belly spot


The fish were cowardly.
schrump
Posted 6/4/2013 10:29 AM (#644767 - in reply to #644766)
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I've seen it on a few Tigers in the metro as well. Bright yellow marks that almost appear as if the fish was injected with a dye marker.
Donivan B
Posted 6/4/2013 10:37 AM (#644768 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: RE: Yellow belly spot




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Location: Tomahawk,Wi
good line North Philly
beerforthemuskygods
Posted 6/4/2013 11:13 AM (#644773 - in reply to #644768)
Subject: RE: Yellow belly spot




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Location: one foot over the line
Lamprey?
Slime King
Posted 6/4/2013 11:23 AM (#644778 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: Re: Yellow belly spot





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Location: midwest
Most of the Leech strain fish in the Hackensack/Longville area that i have caught have the yellow spot(s).
musky-skunk
Posted 6/4/2013 11:29 AM (#644780 - in reply to #644760)
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I've caught at least 15 with a yellow spot and I'd have to say it's genetic, almost like a birth mark. Sometimes it's near the tail, sometimes the belly, sometimes on their cheek. If it was something done to stocked fish I would think the mark would always be in the same general place on the fish.
djwilliams
Posted 6/4/2013 11:41 AM (#644781 - in reply to #644780)
Subject: RE: Yellow belly spot




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Location: Ames, Iowa
So right now it's phenotype. A lot of fish look like this. The question is how does it have anything to do with the genetics of the Leech Lake strain of the spotted muskie.
Rudedog
Posted 6/4/2013 12:10 PM (#644784 - in reply to #644781)
Subject: RE: Yellow belly spot




Posts: 624


Location: S.W. WI
I have seen it on several Chippewa Flowage fish.
-Jon

.........I can do a pic or 2 later today

Edited by Rudedog 6/4/2013 12:41 PM
dtaijo174
Posted 6/4/2013 12:19 PM (#644786 - in reply to #644760)
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Location: New Hope MN
How about you provide a picture?
Rudedog
Posted 6/4/2013 12:45 PM (#644791 - in reply to #644786)
Subject: Re: Yellow belly spot




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Location: S.W. WI
Actually... If you go to last yrs Big Fish page and go to my entry on 7/22/2012 you can see yellow spot on middle lower side. -Chip fish

Edited by Rudedog 6/4/2013 12:47 PM
djwilliams
Posted 6/4/2013 12:54 PM (#644793 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: Re: Yellow belly spot




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Location: Ames, Iowa
Here is a good pic of such a spot on a 41 incher.


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beerforthemuskygods
Posted 6/4/2013 12:56 PM (#644795 - in reply to #644773)
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Location: one foot over the line
beerforthemuskygods - 6/4/2013 11:13 AM

Lamprey?


Well, after seeing the picture, i can see it is not a lamprey. Interesting...
fishhawk50
Posted 6/4/2013 1:22 PM (#644802 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: Re: Yellow belly spot




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Location: oconomowoc, wi
does it affect the taste? (just kidding!)
Larry Ramsell
Posted 6/4/2013 3:55 PM (#644831 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: Re: Yellow belly spot




Posts: 1291


Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
I've seen it on muskies and pike all over North America but have no clue as to what it is.
djwilliams
Posted 6/4/2013 4:44 PM (#644834 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: Re: Yellow belly spot




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Location: Ames, Iowa
I sent a message to the fisheries supervisor of the MN DNR Bemidji office and am hopeful of a reply.
ARmuskyaddict
Posted 6/4/2013 5:16 PM (#644839 - in reply to #644760)
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Fishhawk50, it's a natural lemon flavor... Maybe it's kind of like a birthmark?
knucklemuskie
Posted 6/4/2013 5:23 PM (#644842 - in reply to #644839)
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I firmly believe it is a warning as to what will happen to the fisherman who kills such a wonderful fish! Yellow spots all over their body.
phishmasta
Posted 6/4/2013 8:58 PM (#644869 - in reply to #644760)
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Seen a bunch of fish with yellow spots down here in illinois
djwilliams
Posted 6/5/2013 10:44 PM (#645090 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: Re: Yellow belly spot




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Location: Ames, Iowa
Here's a reply from Gary Barnard, Bemidji Area Fisheries Supervisor for the Minnesota DNR:
Leech Lake is not in the Bemidji Area but I believe I can answer the general question. We do occasionally see this and other distinguishing marks on Muskellunge in our area. It is not a mark we add for identification, but something that naturally occurs. We have not noticed any adverse affect on health or condition of fish with these type of markings.
My quick followup question to him:
Is there research that supports a hypothesis for what causes this?
Gasman
Posted 6/7/2013 4:17 PM (#645458 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: RE: Yellow belly spot





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I work with Brook Trout and notice a similar marking in some of the fish we sample. Typically it is in less than 10% of the fish we handle and mostly along the abdomen and/or lower jaws. We have hypothesized everything from birthmarks to pigment 'malfunctions' to healed hooking or predator injuries. Thus far, we haven't come up with a good answer.

It is interesting that you see it in muskies too.
djwilliams
Posted 6/7/2013 8:47 PM (#645490 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: Re: Yellow belly spot




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Location: Ames, Iowa
Sounds like a research hypothesis and the basis for a master's thesis. My hs grad is heading to Iowa State in Animal Ecology. Wish I was young nuff to be thinking bout a master's thesis.
mcfish
Posted 6/9/2013 10:19 AM (#645609 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: RE: Yellow belly spot





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Location: PA
Here is a fish my client caught at Chautauqua Lake a couple seasons ago.
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Is this the spot you guys are referring to? I remember trying to wipe if off when we were releasing the fish. Looked very much like a yellow highlighter mark. Have seen it many times but this one really stuck out.
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WI Duck Guide
Posted 6/16/2013 10:07 AM (#646765 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: Re: Yellow belly spot




Location: Minocqua, WI
Ha. Just had this discussion the other day with a a client over a fish he caught. He asked what the yellow spot was from. I have no idea but have seen it on several fish here in northern WI as well as on brook trout. Someone looking for a fisheries thesis has their work cut out for them! I have seen it on the belly white where it is most noticeable and on other parts of the body. Would be interesting to know if it is permanent. Good way to help identify a recap. Awesome question/topic.

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BNelson
Posted 6/18/2013 4:10 PM (#647271 - in reply to #644760)
Subject: Re: Yellow belly spot





Location: Contrarian Island
I've caught quite a few fish in MN with it on the belly but some even have it on the side of the fish..here is one that has a bright yellow spot on the side...

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Kirby Budrow
Posted 6/18/2013 7:51 PM (#647312 - in reply to #644760)
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Location: Chisholm, MN
How bout this one my friend Steve got with me a few years ago in northern MN. I've seen a few others like this also.


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nocturnalmotors
Posted 6/18/2013 9:14 PM (#647331 - in reply to #644760)
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Location: Maine Township, MN
Spawn scar?
Kirby Budrow
Posted 6/18/2013 9:29 PM (#647336 - in reply to #644760)
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Location: Chisholm, MN
Its was August 28th so I'm guessing not. It had a similar scar on the opposite side, only without the orange color. Very strange.
goose007us
Posted 6/19/2013 9:00 AM (#647385 - in reply to #647336)
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In an article re: Illinois DNR tracking of muskies in the recent MH mag, it states that DNR officials use a yellow/orange dye to mark the fish for tracking purposes. Could this be responsible for some of these marks?
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