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sworrall
Posted 4/26/2013 10:02 AM (#637612)
Subject: Question for you all...





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
In light of the incredible blather being posted here lately by a couple anonymous folks, we are seriously considering changing this board... and this board only... on the forums to registered only for posting.

We currently have over 220 new posts a day on the average. About 10% are from our anonymous friends.

What say you?
ammoman16
Posted 4/26/2013 10:07 AM (#637616 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Posts: 130


Location: Duluth, MN
Please do. It will eliminate the spam as well.
Flambeauski
Posted 4/26/2013 10:13 AM (#637620 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Posts: 4343


Location: Smith Creek
I like the Basement being the only "members only" area of the site.
But I wouldn't think any less of you if a change was made.
Pointerpride102
Posted 4/26/2013 10:14 AM (#637621 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
I actually think it would be far more entertaining if you simply outed every guest by their IP. I know that you changed your software to make this a bit more challenging, but it would be far more entertaining to post the full name of those who don't have the cajones to post under their name.
Guest
Posted 4/26/2013 10:14 AM (#637622 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: RE: Question for you all...


this site would be super boring if not for the occasional blather
tcbetka
Posted 4/26/2013 10:14 AM (#637623 - in reply to #637616)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Location: Green Bay, WI
I would favor that Steve. I completely understand your desire to anonymous posters, and we've talked about this several times before. But people take things to extremes, and I think it's time for the sort of change you are considering. Personally speaking, I've found that it can take an extraordinary amount of time to "defend yourself" against a few anonymous posters who are just trying to stir up trouble. I can certainly appreciate someone wanting the ability to post without using their name--but I think it's being abused, and probably has been for some time. I favor the change.

As for the "research" section (not that this was mentioned specifically), I would concur that leaving it as it current is (allowing anonymous posters) is a good thing...for the obvious reasons.

TB
ARmuskyaddict
Posted 4/26/2013 10:19 AM (#637624 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...





Posts: 2024


I am for registering to post comments. I already have enough stupid thoughts running through my head, so I don't need anonymous guests giving me more.
Jeff78
Posted 4/26/2013 10:19 AM (#637625 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...





Posts: 1660


Location: central Wisconsin
I vote for registered only. There is far to much hammering on certain tackle companies/sellers and it is always by non members. They have absolutely nothing invested in the site so therefore have nothing to lose.
horsehunter
Posted 4/26/2013 10:23 AM (#637626 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Location: Eastern Ontario
Good Idea
Sam Ubl
Posted 4/26/2013 10:25 AM (#637627 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...





Location: SE Wisconsin
Game on.
honkermusky
Posted 4/26/2013 10:26 AM (#637628 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Posts: 383


Location: SE Wisc and Vilas County
i agree steve thought there was talk of doing this a while ago??
Guest
Posted 4/26/2013 10:31 AM (#637629 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: RE: Question for you all...


Any chance to have people post with REAL NAMES only? Keyboard tough guys would leave.
Northwind Mark
Posted 4/26/2013 10:34 AM (#637630 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: RE: Question for you all...





Posts: 566


Location: Elgin, IL
Sure...if you have to. But I'm going to miss those occasional great deals on new handbags and Viagra.
cincinnati
Posted 4/26/2013 10:36 AM (#637631 - in reply to #637621)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Posts: 1120


Location: West Chester, OH
Pointerpride102 - 4/26/2013 10:14 AM

I actually think it would be far more entertaining if you simply outed every guest by their IP. I know that you changed your software to make this a bit more challenging, but it would be far more entertaining to post the full name of those who don't have the cajones to post under their name.


Yes!!

Steve Petree
West Chester, OH
Brad P
Posted 4/26/2013 10:40 AM (#637633 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Posts: 833


I think getting rid of guest/annonymous posters will make the board better. It is way too easy to come on here and post garbage with minimal consequence.
bulldogger
Posted 4/26/2013 10:42 AM (#637634 - in reply to #637624)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Posts: 8


Location: Iowa
ARmuskyaddict - 4/26/2013 10:19 AM

I am for registering to post comments. I already have enough stupid thoughts running through my head, so I don't need anonymous guests giving me more.


This + 1
Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/26/2013 10:42 AM (#637635 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Posts: 1291


Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
I vote YES! And while you are at it, I agree with "GUEST" above and make people use their REAL names and not just "board names". I always use my name and it would be nice to know whom I am conversing with. If they can't own up to it, they shouldn't be saying it in the first place!!
Attention Grabber
Posted 4/26/2013 10:44 AM (#637636 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: RE: Question for you all...


recently? a couple? this has gone on for YEARS. that's just the nature of a forum. i like to participate once in a while as a guest. the moderators know who i am i'm sure. why should a bunch of random strangers know too?

my posts are usually sparked by messages from several people linking me to read something ridiculous on this site. i'm sure everyone can agree it makes for some interesting reading as long as nobody is personally insulting an individual. which is completely different than disagreeing with their opinions or methods, or calling them out because they rip off every lure manufacture known to mankind and run a successful business by doing so.

if you take my post the wrong way and have anything negative to say, by all means do it. you can't even make a post about a boat on here without people degrading you or sending you nasty PM's half the time, so its nothing new. if anything, every single post should be made by a "guest." afterall, what is the difference between using the name "guest" and muskiehunter?

if steve would post as a guest and nobody knew who he was, there wouldn't be so many people on here that either left the forum or stuck around and deal with his public bashing's and posts that simply refer to the meaning of "duh, what kind of stupid question was that?" he comes off as a jerk, but i know hes not... or has never been to me. so do a ton of other people. BUT........ what happens when everybody is at the Muskie swap? good times, lots of beer, and awkward moments if anybody tries to discuss the forums.

the only problem i see is that children may be reading. for that, and thank you for the reminder, i will refrain from any profanity (i believe i usually do) and references to something children should not read on a muskie fishing website for as long as i'm able or allowed to post.

my apologies. i hope everyone is okay.
muskyhunter63
Posted 4/26/2013 10:44 AM (#637637 - in reply to #637631)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Posts: 706


Location: Richland Center, WI.
I would be fine with registering to post. Own your posts people, don't hide!
Ken
sworrall
Posted 4/26/2013 10:47 AM (#637638 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I 'come off as a jerk'?

ha.

That there is truly funny.

Someone has to control the 'crazy' traffic and moderate the catfights, arguing, nasty commentary, product bashing, name calling, general bad behavior, and other untoward activity that occurs from time to time here, and it's me and Slamr. We both ARE jerks and offer no apologies. We weren't jerks until we took on this project.

You'd be stunned to know how many absolute unique users there really are here. If someone does take a virtual hike because they can't say any derned thing they want any time they want, that's a shame, but it's the way it is and always will be. This ain't your personal blog. It's a copyrighted publication.... which is why moderation here is somewhat strict. And that's worked for 13 years, but the HUGE volume of increased traffic has made things 'more interesting'.

We wouldn't require an 'actual name'. Just registration.
dfkiii
Posted 4/26/2013 10:48 AM (#637640 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...





Location: Sawyer County, WI
I'm in favor of requiring registration to post.

People tend to think more and post less blather when their IDs are attached.
Will Schultz
Posted 4/26/2013 10:49 AM (#637641 - in reply to #637635)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Personally, I think it should be all of the forums but this is a start.
wicked
Posted 4/26/2013 10:51 AM (#637643 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Location: sneaking out to get on the water ;-)
I'm for registering some of us with board names list our real names if you check the profiles. Granted not all of us but the screen names are fun. If real name was required I'd say keep screen names and make real name required in profiles only.
FishingFool
Posted 4/26/2013 10:51 AM (#637644 - in reply to #637633)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Location: Eau Claire,WI
I agree 100 % !!!

Brad P - 4/26/2013 10:40 AM

I think getting rid of guest/annonymous posters will make the board better. It is way too easy to come on here and post garbage with minimal consequence.
Attention Steve
Posted 4/26/2013 10:52 AM (#637645 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: RE: Question for you all...


At times, yes. Because some people don't know how to keep there mouth shut or refrain from drama and talking about things nobody cares about in person just as bad as in a public message board, so they like to talk about other people at times. You are quite popular in the muskie industry Mr. Steve. I was not insulting you. People think I'm an idiot, a jerk, uneducated, a bad muskie angler, etc etc etc. because of the internet or what some people say. Good. I guess that means I will never stop learning. Too bad most guides decide to teach and quit learning after a couple years.
MuskyMATT7
Posted 4/26/2013 10:55 AM (#637648 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...





Posts: 553


Location: 15 miles east of Lake Kinkaid
I agree as well
sworrall
Posted 4/26/2013 10:58 AM (#637651 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I have no idea what that guy is saying. Does anyone else?

Back to the original question, please.
jonnysled
Posted 4/26/2013 10:59 AM (#637653 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
posting what you believe and having your identity known???? preposterous!!
tcbetka
Posted 4/26/2013 11:11 AM (#637658 - in reply to #637651)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...




Location: Green Bay, WI
sworrall - 4/26/2013 10:58 AM

I have no idea what that guy is saying. Does anyone else?

Back to the original question, please.
.

Oddly enough, I think that I do actually know what he's saying Steve...

He gave you an atta-boy for doing the job you do (I concur...and that goes for Slam'r too), and then he showed some humility in saying that he basically comes here to learn--and still has much to learn. We all do. And it seems as though he also wishes guides would continue to share knowledge, instead of just taking people fishing to get paid.

Of course I could be way off on all this...

TB
sworrall
Posted 4/26/2013 11:14 AM (#637659 - in reply to #637612)
Subject: Re: Question for you all...





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Actually make sense, Tom. it's a beautiful day in Red Wing, MN, and I did talk to Gary Parsons for you. Will hit up Mr. Okada this afternoon.
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