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Message Subject: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?
Peter Stoltman
Posted 2/26/2013 7:21 AM (#620730)
Subject: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?




Posts: 218


I just read the ballot for the annual "Spring Hearings" and curious how you think this will go. The question asks: "Do you favor allowing trolling statewide with up to 3 hooks, baits, or lures per angler?". So there is not an option for less than three hooks or anything about lake size etc. What do you think? Pass/Fail?
Johnnie
Posted 2/26/2013 7:27 AM (#620734 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: RE: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?





Posts: 285


Location: NE Wisconsin
Once everyone realizes, if they want to "troll" a sucker with any kind of motor they had better vote yes, I think it will pass. Trolling is trolling, no matter want kind of bait is on the end of the line.
guest
Posted 2/26/2013 7:34 AM (#620738 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: RE: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?


This is WI we are talking about. We can't assume reason and logic will get in the way of tradition. I mean this is the way it's always been done.
Johnnie
Posted 2/26/2013 7:53 AM (#620742 - in reply to #620738)
Subject: RE: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?





Posts: 285


Location: NE Wisconsin
The DNR has been charged by our Governor to simplify fishing regs. Motor trolling is currently mentioned 117 times in the regulation booklet, equivalent to about 3 pages. Wisconsin currently allows trolling in at least one water of 64 of its 72 counties. In 19 counties all waters are open to trolling. In fact trolling is allow in 29% of all Wisconsin musky water down to 17 acres, with no evidence of any problems. There is no rationale for this disparity between counties or waters. Also trolling is a legal fishing method in virtually every state in the union. I am sure the DNR would not purpose this reg just to eliminate confusion or complexity unless they were sure the resource would not be hurt.
guestee
Posted 2/26/2013 8:56 AM (#620776 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: RE: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?


it's another tool used for fishing for any species, trolling all the way! I hope it gets the vote.
mreiter
Posted 2/26/2013 9:04 AM (#620779 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?





Posts: 333


Location: menasha wi 54952
Good points Johnnie. I agree with you 100%. I will be up ridding the 100 miler tomorrow. Talk to you about it over a beer!!!
cincinnati
Posted 2/26/2013 9:48 AM (#620802 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: RE: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?




Posts: 1120


Location: West Chester, OH
"Pass" because the momentum seems to have been gathering for some time. I'd feel better about it, if the line limit was lower.

My concern is w/the boat, dragging planers off both sides, that feels entitled to the piece of real estate that I'm trying to cast.

Can't legislate courtesy or common sense.

millsie
Posted 2/26/2013 10:27 AM (#620821 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?




Posts: 189


Location: Barrington, Il
You don't need planer boards to troll effectively. Its about time it passed. And remember its not just about muskies. I'm sure there are alot of walleye fisherman that want to troll, too.
Guest
Posted 2/26/2013 10:53 AM (#620834 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: RE: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?


Trolling should not be allowed in small vilas co lakes. The lakes are small, with three lines out per these lakes are going to be picked appart and fished out by mid june. Not to mention the size of boats vs the size ofthe lake. In a 150 acre lake, how many trollers can a lake support vs casters? Not a good idea.
cave run legend
Posted 2/26/2013 11:02 AM (#620838 - in reply to #620834)
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How did the state pass that certain areas like green bay are allowed to troll?
Mr Musky
Posted 2/26/2013 11:19 AM (#620844 - in reply to #620730)
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My vote will be NO unless it's put on lakes 1500 acres or larger only. I know the Wisconsin Musky Alliance has also voted against trolling statewide.

Edited by Mr Musky 2/26/2013 11:20 AM
guest
Posted 2/26/2013 11:28 AM (#620848 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: RE: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?


I'm voting Yes all the way!! Wisconsin is THE most backwards state there is. You can troll any lake in Minnesota and they seem to be doing just fine. It's about time Wisconsin puts it's big boy pants on and joins the modern world. I think that new mine will destroy the fishery long before trolling ever will.



MartinTD
Posted 2/26/2013 11:51 AM (#620856 - in reply to #620848)
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Location: NorthCentral WI
guest - 2/26/2013 11:28 AM

I'm voting Yes all the way!! Wisconsin is THE most backwards state there is. You can troll any lake in Minnesota and they seem to be doing just fine. It's about time Wisconsin puts it's big boy pants on and joins the modern world. I think that new mine will destroy the fishery long before trolling ever will.


How many lines is Minnesota allowed per person? Big difference there buddy. I say NO to the hearing question.

Regarding the mine, just read this article yesterday... Pretty interesting to say the least. http://mediatrackers.org/2013/02/25/epa-data-points-to-clean-water-...
Mr Musky
Posted 2/26/2013 12:32 PM (#620887 - in reply to #620730)
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how big are the Minnesota lakes compared to wisconsin's potholes. Not room for both on some.
CiscoKid
Posted 2/26/2013 12:40 PM (#620891 - in reply to #620730)
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI
The way it is worded...I say No as well. I HOPE it is a FAIL unless there is some wording about the size of lake where it is acceptable, and not acceptable.
BenR
Posted 2/26/2013 12:56 PM (#620901 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?


If size of lake is the issue, perhaps we need to start limiting the amount of casts you can make in a single day:)
MartinTD
Posted 2/26/2013 1:06 PM (#620909 - in reply to #620901)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?





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Location: NorthCentral WI
BenR - 2/26/2013 12:56 PM

If size of lake is the issue, perhaps we need to start limiting the amount of casts you can make in a single day:)



Is it really that hard to understand how it would effect small lakes? You don't have to agree with it.

I'd support one trolling line per person statewide. Not three.
ToddM
Posted 2/26/2013 1:39 PM (#620922 - in reply to #620730)
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Location: oswego, il
Take a look at the lakes that do allow trolling? Is everybody trollling? Not hardly. I am for trolling and moving suckers with a trolling motor.
BenR
Posted 2/26/2013 1:50 PM (#620929 - in reply to #620909)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?


MartinTD - 2/26/2013 1:06 PM

BenR - 2/26/2013 12:56 PM

If size of lake is the issue, perhaps we need to start limiting the amount of casts you can make in a single day:)



Is it really that hard to understand how it would effect small lakes? You don't have to agree with it.

I'd support one trolling line per person statewide. Not three.



On small lakes I believe you can work structure better casting, I think you tend to be more thorough. I don't see trolling as being much of an issue. I would be curious to see on smaller lakes or chain of lakes where trolling is allowed whether casting or trolling wins more of the tourneys. BR
MD75
Posted 2/26/2013 2:02 PM (#620932 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?





Posts: 682


Location: Sycamore, IL
I am sure that it will pass, as I just started building a row troller for the Vilas co. area:)
Northwind Mark
Posted 2/26/2013 2:17 PM (#620936 - in reply to #620922)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?





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Location: Elgin, IL
ToddM - 2/26/2013 1:39 PM

Take a look at the lakes that do allow trolling? Is everybody trollling? Not hardly. I am for trolling and moving suckers with a trolling motor.



I'm with "Bob" on this one....pass it, and let the fishermen do what we do best.
Not everyone trolls...either in the bars like Todd, or on the water.
The Fox Chain here in Illinois has no issues with either. In fact, I see more casting than trolling for muskies there.
I'm tired of constantly looking over my shoulder while position fishing with suckers up there, always thinking about tickets from the DNR.
Illinois needs concealed carry....and Northern WI needs trolling. Get with the times.

Edited by Northwind Mark 2/26/2013 2:22 PM
Guest
Posted 2/26/2013 3:07 PM (#620954 - in reply to #620856)
Subject: RE: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?


MartinTD - 2/26/2013 11:51 AM

guest - 2/26/2013 11:28 AM

I'm voting Yes all the way!! Wisconsin is THE most backwards state there is. You can troll any lake in Minnesota and they seem to be doing just fine. It's about time Wisconsin puts it's big boy pants on and joins the modern world. I think that new mine will destroy the fishery long before trolling ever will.


How many lines is Minnesota allowed per person? Big difference there buddy. I say NO to the hearing question.

Regarding the mine, just read this article yesterday... Pretty interesting to say the least. http://mediatrackers.org/2013/02/25/epa-data-points-to-clean-water-...

What about MI, not much difference there buddy.
Huss Nasty
Posted 2/26/2013 3:07 PM (#620955 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?




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What would this do to the sucker draggers? For those who would like to see the bill allow only 1 line trolled, would that also permit casting? On another note, what does it say about those who only want to fish 'their lakes, their way?' What evidence is there that says trolling will negatively affect the fishery? It seems as though those opposed are more worried about how it may negatively affect their fishing, rather than the fishery itself. If there is substantial reasoning for the absence of trolling, then, by all means, ban it. However, if that is the case, why then would other states and Canada allow trolling?
IM Musky Time
Posted 2/26/2013 3:31 PM (#620964 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?





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Trolling is legal in Michigan....on lakes of all sizes with up to 3 lines per person....and we still have fish in our waters. Can some jerk go to a small lake and troll circles around people casting? I guess it's possible, but I don't remember it happening in the 35 years I've been alive. I have lived in Michigan all my life and fish MI and NE WI almost exclusively and always cast even though I have the option at home (running suckers would be an exception). Trolling small lakes can be nearly impossible if they are weedy during a good part of the season and the perception that you will suddenly go from 1 fish a day to 20 a day is just not realistic. Hope to see WI open up trolling to at least allow movement of suckers under power.

Edited by IM Musky Time 2/26/2013 3:33 PM
Guest
Posted 2/26/2013 4:01 PM (#620975 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: RE: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?


Everybody talks about how big Minnesota's lakes are. There's Leech and Mille Lacs. What other lakes over 10,000 acres do you have? Minnesota has over 11,000 lakes and guess what? You can troll them all. If it was up to me I'd fish in Minnesota for muskies first before Wisconsin. Heck, it took us 30 years to figure out the 34 inch minimum length limit was lame even though year after year after year the reports coming out of Minnesota was that it was a huge success.

Getting people to break tradition in Wisconsin is an uphill battle. Trying to convince the crowds of people with the "We always dun did it like that" mentality is a tough job.

Sooner or later education will triumph.
Bubba1
Posted 2/26/2013 7:19 PM (#621083 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: RE: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?


Its not how you catch em it's what you do with em after you catch em.does anyone honestly believe theres more mortality with trolling than with suckers?Dick Rose trolled the Cisco chain in 1980 for 42 days with zero muskies and on the 43day caught the Michigan state record!There will be some monster muskies caught in northern wis when trolling finally passes, great for the struggling economy.There are big muskies in open water that will bring the title back to the north woods.Most of these giants are dying of old age . it is a renewable resource!Regulate your fishery with size limits and bag limits. if anyone is really concerned about our musky fishery stop running tournaments in July and August when in some years water temps are in the high 70s,I would say survival rate is 1 out of 3.Common sense will let our fishery thrive.The only people that are against trolling are those that know nothing about it!Just thought I,d stir the pot!
muskyhunter47
Posted 2/26/2013 7:34 PM (#621091 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
here in minnesota we get one line dont matter if your casting trolling or using a sucker. one is all you get, i seen a musky show he was using 6 lines im hoping one of the lines was his camra mans. it would be nice to use more then one line but we cant may be i neen to head east start fishing wi

Edited by muskyhunter47 2/26/2013 7:36 PM
jonnysled
Posted 2/26/2013 7:36 PM (#621093 - in reply to #620730)
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Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
no
miket55
Posted 2/26/2013 8:06 PM (#621106 - in reply to #620844)
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Posts: 1267


Location: E. Tenn
no..

Edited by miket55 2/26/2013 8:09 PM
JLR
Posted 2/26/2013 8:41 PM (#621124 - in reply to #620730)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Motor Trolliing - What do you think?




Posts: 335


Location: Pulaski, WI
Maybe if they make the walleye season match the musky season and larger size limits. I find it hard to believe that allowing trolling of three lines per angler is not going to have any negative impacts on the fisheries, particularly smaller ones.
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