Was just wondering what length rod is the most effective for working Suick? Do prefer a shorter rod? or the stick with the trend of the longer rods that are being used?....I find I can work a Suick best with a shorter rod.
Posted 9/24/2012 7:32 AM (#586661 - in reply to #586639) Subject: Re: Suick
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I have the St Croix "Classic Jerk" as well and it is an excellent rod, just like all the rest of their line of great sticks. And, there is no question that this was the rod in my locker that had the solid wire leader I use for jerks and glides....but not any more! No question at all that the shorter rod is a joy for working the glides into the boat and the 8'6" Sling Blade or 9'0" Big Nasty that is my "true love" provides a clearly more difficult challenge in creating the desired action to the bait. But...for making the figure eight (that you still have to make) or for fighting a fish (which you really hope you'll have to do) the longer rods shine for me over the shorter ones. My advice is to change it up a little with what your "hard and fast" regular rules dictate and try something new. It certainly looks different when you see someone working a Suick, Twisted Sucker or whatever with a long rod, but "different" can often be "better!"
Posted 9/24/2012 8:46 PM (#586876 - in reply to #586634) Subject: Re: Suick
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I couldn't use anything over 7'6". Id rather lean over to figure eight rather than struggle throughout the whole cast beating my rod in and out of the water for the majority of the cast. I'm about 12 inches off the water and I'm pretty tall so the 6'9" classic jerk is perfect for me.
Posted 9/25/2012 6:03 PM (#587097 - in reply to #586634) Subject: RE: Suick
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Location: Eagan, MN
8-6 thorne bros custom on a steel 20 blank. The length and soft tip help with casting, working the bait, figure 8's and keeping fish hooked. I don't work suicks with big, downward jerks, so hitting the water is not an issue for me.
Posted 9/27/2012 6:30 AM (#587391 - in reply to #586634) Subject: Re: Suick
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steve do you not believe in tweeking the ring in the nose of the bait for straightning out the running of the bait?just asking normally this is what i do an it works,just wondering if theres a reason that you dont do it?
Posted 9/27/2012 10:45 AM (#587451 - in reply to #586634) Subject: Re: Suick
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Thanks Steve that was quite interesting, I know many people T their hooks so the wooden lures do not get all scratched & scraped up. But now according to this if noise is what you are trying to produce with your lure we should not T the hooks and let them bang along the bodies of the lures. I guess The Ideal thing would be to use a True Oil or simply add a very thin coat of some type of epoxy coating to protect the lures finish so the hooks can bang away without hurting the lures finish.. As old as I am I still Learn something everyday. Mike Sr.
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Posted 9/28/2012 7:30 PM (#587762 - in reply to #587451) Subject: Re: Suick
T the hooks to get them away from the body for better hook-up, not to save paint.z
Posted 9/28/2012 8:31 PM (#587774 - in reply to #587762) Subject: Re: Suick
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I don't t the hooks and the lure hooks up very well. The Suick is one of the loudest baits you can throw. I use the tail to make the lure dance, so don't find the need to mess with the eye much.
Posted 9/29/2012 10:08 PM (#587901 - in reply to #586634) Subject: Re: Suick
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Location: Wakefield, MI
2 more on 9" weighted black Suick's today. My dad caught one on the first cast (before I even had a lure in the water) and I caught one just before we left. Last week, same lake, I missed about a 45" (didn't get a good hookset) and caught a smaller one on the same Suick.
Posted 1/16/2013 7:12 PM (#610249 - in reply to #586634) Subject: Re: Suick
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Ahh, I see. Apologies, hard for a guy 30 miles from the Suick factory to believe someone hasn't tried one. Try one!
The first Suick is a non weighted. The tail placement makes it dance, dive, and wobble, hence the video on how to tune it. A floater can be tuned to nose into vegetation and rise backwards out of it too, great presentation. Even the weighted will be neutral buoyant or float, but can be tuned to dive and hold with a VERY slow rise.
The new molded Suick is a nice middle ground between the two.
Posted 1/16/2013 8:09 PM (#610260 - in reply to #610242) Subject: Re: Suick
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cave run legend - 1/16/2013 6:14 PM
I have never used a suick or a dive and rise and was doing research. No need to make someone feel dumb. I figured the non weighted version would sink a couple feet and the weighted would sink deeper.
Suick's are a great bait but dont overlook bobbie's and big daddy's as well, big daddy's work great on deeper weed edge's. I'll often reach for one of these three baits on tough days or when fishing large weed beds on tough days, something about these baits worked through pockets of weeds that will get fish to react when nothing else will...definitely a tool every muskie angler should have.
Posted 1/16/2013 8:53 PM (#610270 - in reply to #610260) Subject: Re: Suick
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Location: Walker, MN
A couple of years ago I removed the rear trebles from all of my Suicks. I don't feel like I miss any more fish this way. There is less fouling and fewer hooks to remove from Muskies and especialy Pike. Does anyone else do this?
Posted 1/16/2013 11:39 PM (#610301 - in reply to #586634) Subject: Re: Suick
Great video, Steve. I'll definitely be asking you some questions when I try the ones from the contest. Gotta learn from the master while I have the chance.
Posted 1/17/2013 6:28 AM (#610321 - in reply to #610270) Subject: Re: Suick
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Masqui-ninja - 1/16/2013 8:53 PM
A couple of years ago I removed the rear trebles from all of my Suicks. I don't feel like I miss any more fish this way. There is less fouling and fewer hooks to remove from Muskies and especialy Pike. Does anyone else do this?
Yes, on the 9" I remove the back hook and move the middle hook back an inch or so. 10" and up I leave alone.
Posted 1/17/2013 10:33 AM (#610365 - in reply to #586634) Subject: Re: Suick
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Location: Wisconsin
thanks for the video, I have generally used the rod for the action w/ the reel vs mostly the reel doing the lions share. Always have had good luck with the suicks, but I am going to try playing around with a few more variations this year.
Posted 1/17/2013 1:20 PM (#610402 - in reply to #610321) Subject: Re: Suick
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Location: Pewaukee, WI
Besides removing the back hook, I increase the hook size to 7/0 and secure the second hook with a plastic tie down or wrap a heavier rubber band around it to secure it up and against the body of the bait.
Posted 1/17/2013 1:55 PM (#610409 - in reply to #586634) Subject: Re: Suick
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Location: Leech Lake, Walker MN
Don't leave the dock with out a Suick
BenR
Posted 1/17/2013 9:18 PM (#610476 - in reply to #586634) Subject: Re: Suick
cave run legend - 1/17/2013 1:33 PM
I think I am going to hold off adding some suicks to my aresenal. I just now got a hang of working hell hounds and phantoms, I like my lures to work well out of the box instead of having to do a lot of tuning.
A suick is one of the few baits that lasts the test of time. They just plain catch fish, they did before the baits you listed and they will after. They also produce actual strikes more than follows and have a good hook up rate. You really cant use them wrong, just cast them out and make them move. BR
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