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| I've been having some issues with hookup ratios of certain lures lately... and in the past. so, that raised the question, what lures get you bit but not necessarily a hook up?
and its hard for me to not use that lure due to the bites, but then leaves me with an angry feeling every time i miss the fish... very frustrating. |
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| Mine is some single bladed riveted bucktail, only one treble 5 hits and only one hookup. Frustrating. |
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Location: VA | I had tubes that looked like Swiss Cheese until I started building my own harness. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Most times I find missing multiple fish on a particular lure to be as much operator error as lure design....just a long term observation. |
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| Whatever I'm throwing while I'm daydreaming, and one hits. Or when you start getting lazy on the 8's...thats when they'll show up every time. |
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| I agree with Steve. Most of my failed hook ups were my fault. That being said, I've had difficulty hooking fish with tubes, as well. |
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| The Pig and the Manta.
Not only is the Pig incredibly hard to work it hooks up terrible. I did catch a very large musky on one though once and so I can't dis it too bad. |
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| Mullhead - 7/16/2012 9:52 PM
I had tubes that looked like Swiss Cheese until I started building my own harness.
I will second that
Landry |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Try this using tubes:
When a fish hits, give it line. Yes, give it line for a 4 count, Let the fish tighten up the line and hammer the steel home. |
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Location: IL | Glide baits |
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Location: North Metro, MN | Jackpot... missed more fish on wtd baits than anything for sure, great for making them show up though! Caught some nice fish on them but plenty never really got hooked |
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| in the past i missed a ton of fish on jig&creature combos, i ended up switching to a slower action rod and had to learn to not set the hook the instant i felt something but wait till i felt the actual weight of the fish |
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Location: Muskegon Michigan | Ill second the Jack Pot. I have had over 100 fish miss them, knock them out of the water etc. Only caught one fish and that was on a figure 8 . Then the Weagle was invented and I hooked up almost immediately . Never looked back. Mike |
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Location: Canada | Manta |
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| Hellhound and The Jimmy. I've had good luck hooking up with my mantas. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i know one particular dude who would have a few nice photos if he'd moved the back hook further back on a shallow invader ... great bait, bad hook placement. one of them was particularly large if my memory serves me correctly. |
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Location: Minocqua, WI | any glider or walk the dog bait... and rubber... hookups yes but so many lost fish... ugh. Can be SO frustrating when fish decide to start head-hitting the bait everytime... not sure why they hit differently some days... could be the way they are relating to the structure or the level of aggression or maybe they just like to mess with us. Either way, there have been days where I want to take every rubber bait I own and make a sacrifice to the musky gods over an open fire or deep lake.
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| Jackpot, many misses and a few missed hooksets. Seems the fish always hit the bait wrong. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Eel and flying witch, without a doubt. |
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| jonnysled - 7/17/2012 7:24 AM
i know one particular dude who would have a few nice photos if he'd moved the back hook further back on a shallow invader ... great bait, bad hook placement. one of them was particularly large if my memory serves me correctly.
I agree. I love the shallow invader and it gets lots of action when I use them but I rarely do because I got sick of hooking up and losing fish. |
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| Mr automatic glide bait. I have had the bait thrown at me so many times that I want to keep a catchers mit next to the net! |
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| jonnysled - 7/17/2012 7:24 AM
i know one particular dude who would have a few nice photos if he'd moved the back hook further back on a shallow invader ... great bait, bad hook placement. one of them was particularly large if my memory serves me correctly.
Sled, do you even allow them in your boat any more?? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Ja Rule - 7/17/2012 9:42 AM
jonnysled - 7/17/2012 7:24 AM
i know one particular dude who would have a few nice photos if he'd moved the back hook further back on a shallow invader ... great bait, bad hook placement. one of them was particularly large if my memory serves me correctly.
I agree. I love the shallow invader and it gets lots of action when I use them but I rarely do because I got sick of hooking up and losing fish.
there's a hook-fix out there ... which reminds me that i need to get some rigged up. |
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Location: Ontario | Any WTD top water...man does it get frustrating! |
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Location: Manitowish Waters WI | I'm glad someone started this thread. I'm in a recent slump this season, I'm a glider guy, deep or shallow, I love them. My slump has been running from mid June till current, even though I have not been fishing in the heat since the 4 th week. My "slump" consists of 5 missed quality fish all on gliders. Is been like clockwork, smash, thrash at the surface, jump, and spit. I've lost fish in the past on gliders but never like this. Two of the fish completely crushed the bait (hellhound) and had it tboned in their mouths, still lost!!! I'm sure some of it is user error but man its depressing!!! And yes I sharpen my hooks. |
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| Great topic! A buddy and I have been talking and trying to figure out why we are losing so many fish on tubes. The issue is we have great success raising, hooking and seeing fish on tubes. More than any other plastic and we've tried them all. We bothcame to agree that we land only 25-30% of fish hooked on tubes. We both and a few more fishing buddies of ours have lost some serious giants over the years and lots of fish ranging in all sizes. Most would say its part of fishing for big game species like Muskie but I'm telling ya we are losing so many fish year after year. We've messed around with less hooks, more hooks, rushing the fish to net, taking time to get fish in net, set hook immediately and wait a few seconds and set hook like Steve mentioned. It's by far my favorite "go-to" bait where I fish. It always catches fish for me even in the dog days of summer but it's startling how many fish we all are losing day in and day out. I just lost another slob Sunday night. Crushed my tube, perfect hookset and got her halfway to boat, couple head shakes and gone. Typical as most fish seem to pop off with a head shake or two easiily with these tubes. Problem is they work all the time and seem to raise fish when nothing else will..... |
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Location: Ames, Iowa | Maybe the loss of the fish on tubes has something to do with the fixed nature of the hooks vs. swinging hooks on most other baits. Fish gets leverage against the fixed point and out rolls the hook (???) |
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | For me, the worst hook-up lures are gliders of any kind. Mantas, Phantoms, Fat Boys, Sledges, and Hell Hounds all provide lots of hits and few fish. I don't even throw them anymore because there seems to be no point. All I do is cast a lot and then go home disappointed. |
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Location: VA | These rigs seem to have fixed most of my problem. 8/0 in the head and 8/0 where the body meets the tentacles. One goes thru the nose the other is about 60 degrees they both fall at a different angle. I can make them both from 1 to 3oz.
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| I agree with the Jimmy !me and jimmy have a talk every single time i get a hit and then they let go .but have caught fish on them before like 5 to 10 hit to losses!
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