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| The water in a lake is over 80 degrees and their are idiots muskie fishing! If people don't know that temps like this can harm the muskies when caught then they should stick to golf.
Edited by PounderDawg 6/25/2012 7:51 PM
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| yep! gonna be real close to danger temps after this weeks heat wave. hopefully guys take up another sport for a while til we cool down. se wisconsin |
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Location: La Crosse, WI | Already? Fight them fast, get them in the net quick, water release, one quick pic if its a nice fish. More fish die from improper handling, not having adequate tools, or being deeply hooked than high water temps. However, if the water is above 80 and has been for sometime, might as well go bass fishing or swimming. Also, avoid fishing in the heat of the day. I tend to fish in an area where water temps rarely hit 80 for extended periods of time, but I've never seen it be much of an issue. Yes I understand what delayed mortality means. Also, deeper lakes with creeks flowing in tend to have lower temps even if the surface temp is 80 plus |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | shoot the ba$tards .... |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | May be education instead of complaining and insulting would be a good start. |
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| it is enough to really pity the Musky-only fishermen. you guys wait all year for opener, then before you know it, too hot, then a window for fishing in the fall before ice-up. plus half the time you're outraged or p/o about something: cutoff, wrong hold, too hot, too many pics, wrong net, not as large as stated, ramps closed arbitrarily.
real fishermen fish all year round, not less than half the year. grab your bass/walleye/crappy rod, shut up and fish.
Edited by curdmudgeon 6/26/2012 4:05 AM
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Location: oswego, il | I ride with sled but you have to get the family too. |
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Location: So. Illinois | PounderDawg - 6/25/2012 7:49 PM
The water in a lake is over 80 degrees and their are idiots muskie fishing! If people don't know that temps like this can harm the muskies when caught then they should stick to golf.
If people don't know that warm temps can harm muskies, then they will continue to to fish for muskies. If you had taken the time to politely inform them of the dangers, they may have choosen to go golfing instead. If they choose to ignore your advice, then I would say it would be appropriate to refer to them as idiots. |
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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | PounderDawg - 6/25/2012 7:49 PM
The water in a lake is over 80 degrees and their are idiots muskie fishing! If people don't know that temps like this can harm the muskies when caught then they should stick to golf.
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I don't own a water temp gauge of any kind so..... What area do you live in? I am looking to go out today and for the next four days in a row... but I am just gunna bring the bass rod if the waters are like that near me. |
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| So I only get 1 week of vacation to go fishing for muskies with my son. We picked the week that happens to be when the water temps are up. My son loves musky fishing. He talks about it all winter. Looks like I can't take him fishing for muskies because that would make him an idiot!
I love this board but, sometimes!!! |
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| Also, we need to make sure all of the guides cancel all their trips with their clients until the temps come down. They will need to go golfing too. |
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Location: Hudson, WI | That's just surface temp and it's much more variable at this time of year. Two cooler/cloudy days and your electronics will show it at 76. 80's are more of a problem in July/August when high temps reach deeper into the water column. If it was a sunny day and I was going out for the evening and had surface temps of 80, I'd have no problem fishing in it at this time of year. Just keep the fish in the water and handle it properly. |
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| I'm sorry you feel this way, but if you fish in high water temps the fish has a much greater chance of dying. Future generations will not have good musky fishing. WHen you go on the trip, make sure you have the proper tools, fight the fish fast, net it quick, quick picture and get it back. I'm sorry I offended you.
Musky53 - 6/26/2012 10:28 AM
Also, we need to make sure all of the guides cancel all their trips with their clients until the temps come down. They will need to go golfing too. |
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| Pewaukee was 77-78 on Friday. Given the cooler nights we've had, I expect that it may be a little less than that now.
This heat spell will raise temperatures, but let's see how humid it gets and how the nights are before we say that people are "idiots" for fishing muskies.
Last year I saw that when temps exceeded 84 degrees, people really stayed away from the lake. And when temps started rising into the 80's, lots of people used water releases on their fish. We found only a couple floaters during a 3 week time period when the temps were quite high.
If you are looking to see the true water temp, get a thermometer and put it on a rope, or line. Drop it down 8-10 feet and see what that temp is. Lots of time our transducers only pick up the heat of the water in 1-2 feet of water, not the true temp down there a little deeper. |
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| ToddM - 6/26/2012 8:47 AM
I ride with sled but you have to get the family too.
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Location: Eagan, MN | I agree with vegas. Before you get too worked up make sure you know what you're talking about. A foot or two of warm surface water with cooler underneath is not an issue. Unless you're just looking for something to be outraged about, then have at it. |
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| Looks like the informant needs better information. |
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| Go easy on the guy. To each their own. You have to respect someone who wants the musky population to be safe.
And last year there were a lot of really good anglers who stayed away from Pewaukee when the water temps soared. I feel that this was due in part to websites like this who educated anglers about delayed mortality. |
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| If you live ten minutes from the lake, and you can fish today or tomorrow or next week when the water cools off, it's one thing. But you can't expect the folks who have planned a trip for months to cancel it because it's hot. You can't expect someone who drove 6 hours to go muskie fishing for the weekend to just go find something else to do because it's hot. For all you know, those people out fishing when surface temps are 80 are doing so during the only week a year when they get to go somewhere and fish. You gonna tell them to stop? |
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Location: Madison, WI | cast10K - 6/26/2012 11:15 AM
I agree with vegas. Before you get too worked up make sure you know what you're talking about. A foot or two of warm surface water with cooler underneath is not an issue. Unless you're just looking for something to be outraged about, then have at it.
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY. |
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Location: Suspended | I agree with this completely.
sworrall - 6/25/2012 11:26 PM
May be education instead of complaining and insulting would be a good start. |
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| Calling someone an idiot is not educating in my opinion. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I don't know, I'm an idiot some days. Freely admit it. |
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| Since when did everyone get so up in arms about using the word idiots? Why so sensitive? I call myself an idiot all the time when I do something dumb. If someone calls me an idiot I just agree and move on.
As far as the temps being to high possibly harming muskies its fact not opinion. If you ignore this and intentionally cause extra harm just because you want to fish for muskies still you are being selfish.
Edited by Ja Rule 6/26/2012 1:41 PM
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| Fishing in general is selfish and the better fisherman you are the more harm you are inflecting on the fish. We all work hard to hook as many as we can. H |
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| Ja Rule - 6/26/2012 1:41 PM
Since when did everyone get so up in arms about using the word idiots? Why so sensitive? I call myself an idiot all the time when I do something dumb. If someone calls me an idiot I just agree and move on.
As far as the temps being to high possibly harming muskies its fact not opinion. If you ignore this and intentionally cause extra harm just because you want to fish for muskies still you are being selfish.
You need to define what a high water temperature is... Believe me, it isn't 80 degrees on Pewaukee yet. And if this hot spell shoots it up there, it will be a while before that 80 degree surface water penetrates the depths.
Careful calling guys selfish. There are a lot of really good musky guys down here who know when to put the musky poles away for a while. These are the guys who put them away every year. Now is not time.
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Location: Eagan, MN | Vegas is spot on, again. Nobody is ignoring warm water releases being a factor. Each of the past two season I have hung it up for a week or two due to temps. But it takes sustained high temps to matter. Get a temp gauge that you can drop down 6-10', you might be surprised.
I'm in MN, and I get that this is more of an issue down south. Daytime high water temps here have been around 74, 76 if it's an especially warm day. We are supposed to get 90 degree heat for the next few days. I'm sure we'll get surface temps over 80, but I'll be fishing. Release fish by giving them a good push down into deeper water (dougj tip) and the fish will be fine. |
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| I didn't say it was time at all. Just saying the premise of not fishing muskies once it gets too hot because of extra stress and harm is a good one . I'm no biologist so I can't say what that exact temp is. To me its not only when the surface temp hits the 80's but when temps 5-10feet down and more are in the high 70's and 80's. I wasn't calling anyone specific selfish just saying the "I'll fish them when I want, nobodies gonna tell me I cant fish for them" attitude is selfish. |
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| I have to take my vacation when I am able to--don't have a job where I can pick up and leave anytime I want to. We go when job says we can take off---So myself and my kids fish when we can--I don't care about the surface temps--jsut try and do the RIGHT THING as afar as water releasing and getting them back when we get 1. Sorry if this offends some but thats the way it goes. And I have to agree--some on the board and others are just out of control with their thinking that they are RIGHT all the time and everyone should do as they do. Hate to break it to them but there is going to be some dissapointing times for them in their life. I know several locals here in Wisconsin where we have a lake home who will purposely keep and kill a MUSKY if they think it will bother some MUSKY NUT who has said something to them about their way of fishing. Some people just take a negative attitude when the are told how they should be doing things. Education and understanding is by far the best method to approach something like this---certainly not calling people IDIOTS !! Good Luck to all and keep on fishing -- just do the right thing and use the best tools to get them back swimming as soon and safely as possible. |
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| esox911 - 6/26/2012 7:13 PM
I know several locals here in Wisconsin where we have a lake home who will purposely keep and kill a MUSKY if they think it will bother some MUSKY NUT who has said something to them about their way of fishing..
Overheard in a bar one night:
"I cut their bellies when I catch one. Used to let 'em go, but every musky fishermen I've ever met in my life has been an a-- h---, so I figure f--- 'em! Maybe they'll stay home in their own states if there ain't no more muskies up here!"
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