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| http://www.startribune.com/local/west/159885555.html
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | They can only do it if they own the landing. If they took State, DNR or Federal dollars I don't think they can do that. |
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Location: Ames, Iowa | Better not want to go fishing Monday-Thursday in the late morning/afternoon. Bet that will change. |
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| Look at the bright side, less pressure and less mishandling of fish! H |
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Location: Okoboji | when is the fishing tournament on christmas lake? |
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| I realize this isn't the point but I get a kick out of how the pictures' comment is that the two guys with spinning gear are there to muskie fish on May 9th... |
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| This is a really serious issue, it sets the ball rolling for privatizing public waters via city sanctions.
They are not limiting access they are denying it. |
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| I can't believe there are only six now seven replies on this.
Bob is 100 percent correct they are denying access. Thought it would take longer for rights to slip away but we have arrived ladies and gents. |
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| Bob is correct. This is very serious and another example of government imposing its will on its citizens.
I have no problem with the inspection portion. I have gone thru this at multiple lakes and it has not been a problem, but we are now talking about *denying* access. They have already closed a public access in its entirety at Wirth.
95% of all users would still be inspected during the proposed inspection hours, but the Park Board has taken the wrong approach by closing the launch when inspectors are not present. (And then the lake magically opens up October 1).
As it stands if you want to fish according to the moon at 4am you are out of luck. If you only want to work a half-day and launch at 1pm on a Tuesday, you are out of luck. Not to mention there is no way that canoes and kayaks can be inspected as they can put in anywhere on the lakes.
Would be interested in hearing about the legal ground the Park Board has in making this unfortunate decision.
TW
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| There is a fire ban in Colorado on public/national land. Don't see it an limiting my rights at all. Also have had to stay off lakes when water was too high due to flooding. Made sense. At times it makes sense. H |
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| I doubt they will be able to legally get away with this... Also, as stated above, canoes and kayaks (possibly transporting invasives) can access those lakes at any point along the shoreline. I think that fact alone would be source of enough conflict/enforcement headaches/etc. to maybe make these dummies realize they are making a mistake. Then again common sense never really seems to register with these folks on so called boards and committees. |
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| I can't believe this one will fly. There are way too many people who launch and load outside of those hours. Suppose you have a home on the lake, and need to get your boat out of the water during the week. Suppose you are out fishing past "inspection hours"...
I can't believe anybody involved in this would expect anything to come of this other than this costing the DNR a lot of money spent replacing chains, probably on a daily basis.
Edited by esoxaddict 6/21/2012 3:48 PM
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Location: minocqua, wi. | get involved!!!
there was a similar slippery slope in our area not long ago.
go get involved. now would be a good time for all of the fish-related groups to come together in unison.
jeff: can't believe?
- ventura
- wellstone
- franken
best to believe anything is possible in MN |
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| jonnysled - 6/21/2012 3:54 PM
get involved!!!
there was a similar slippery slope in our area not long ago.
go get involved. now would be a good time for all of the fish-related groups to come together in unison.
jeff: can't believe?
- ventura
- wellstone
- franken
best to believe anything is possible in MN
Perhaps I should clarify - I believe they would be incompetent and uninformed enough to think this is a plausible solution. What I do NOT believe is that it will ever be implemented after the likely crapstorm that will ensue from all the people who use the lakes outside of those hours. When the bean counters start figuring out the potential lost revenue, and they have to hire a full time crew to drive around replacing chains all day long, this one will go to it's rightful place in the file of "really stupid ideas that seemed good at the time" |
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| This definitely creates a special user class for property owners, and is the start for denying peasants rights to hunt in the royal forest.
Good luck with all this. These lake associations do NOT view you as a user entitled to use public waters, and they will exclude you if possible. |
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| Here's the contact I was sent for Minneapolis Parks and Rec, email or call and make your voice heard.
CONTACT: Robin Smothers
Communications Specialist
Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board
612-230-6410, [email protected] |
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| I don't fish the Mpls lakes but after reading the article if the access is chained when inspectors are not present if you start fishing at say 7 a.m. after an inspection but have to leave at 2 p.m., how do you get your boat out if the access is chained off because the inspectors won't be back until 5 p.m.?
Also, are the lakes going to be closed on October 1 than too? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | This has nothing to do with the spread of invasive species, and everything to do with using the threat as an excuse to limit access by the public. If the concern is a need for continuous daylight inspections, they need to fund them and make it so.
I can't believe this is going to fly, but one never knows. |
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| xmas lakes going to be chained off-I thought Christmas was all about sharing!!!!!!
Has a MPLs born resident dosent surprise me about the city lakes
now the yacht club that have their boats tendered on the lake harriet can have it to themselfs alot of the time,,,we cant use gas motors but the sailboaters can use gas motors to get to their boats and use has regatta judges..
they kick a little 14 yr old kid out of the park for renting little toy remote control sailboats that EVERYBODY loved that have no motors make no noise have no impact on the lake a chance for him to make some money for cd's or maybe Xbox because they think its private vending but at the same time allow a private restaurant on Calhoun and Minnehaha falls park
mark my words,,,launching fee,yearly pass is next somebodys gotta pay for those inspectors
Edited by happy hooker 6/21/2012 6:29 PM
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Location: Land of the Musky | I have a truck and a log chain in the back of my truck. I am sure my 4x4 can take care of the access being blocked if I need to get off the lake  So does this mean I can pay less taxes for every public lake I am blocked from too? Awesome! More money for tackle and fishing vacations out of the state.
What a bunch of BS!
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| What makes those lakes any more important than any other? I bet if you ask a resident of those lakes you wil get a clear answer. |
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Location: Victoria,MN | happy hooker - 6/21/2012 6:04 PM
I thought Christmas was all about sharing!!!!!!
It is, as long as you live on the lake!
You know that the Mpls park board has been preasured big time by any "special interest" groups etc. and the will continue to apply preasure until they get their way.
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| This is what I am talking about. If you live on the lake you are King at the public's expense. |
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Should just about do it, wouldn't you say? |
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| This is scary but doesn't really surprise me. I don't see a lot of protest about being required to have the plug out of your boat on the highways or allowing the MN DNR to search your boat and vehicle with no warrant, etc. I'm sorry but it seems that Minnesotan's don't put up much of a fight when the state takes away their rights one at a time as long as the state claims it's for the good of the natural resources. |
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| Of course we don't protest. Ventura, Wellstone, Franken, Ellison we love our "progressive" elected officials! |
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| Under the new AIS law in Minnesota, paid or volunteer "inspectors" at the landings have the right to touch your boat/trailer and look inside your boat compartments/livewells. This goes well beyond looking at your boat and asking you to pull the weeds off the trailer.
This is a right that even police officers do not have when they pull you over on the highway! Can you say illegal search and seizure / invasion of privacy?
The AIS bugaboo is being used to infringe upon many of your Constitutionally guaranteed rights.
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| Exactly, show me your papers! |
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| And if I'm headed to North Dakota from Wisconsin towing my boat and get pulled over for not having the plug in my boat didn't they just interfere with interstate commerce? |
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Location: Okoboji | I am serious on the Christmas lake "tournament" lets get together as many boats and gear as we can and have a swap and whatever and just cruise the lake....make a statement |
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