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nazercl
Posted 6/12/2012 11:17 PM (#564836)
Subject: Who had the biggest impact on the sport?





A discussion came up in the boat today that I don't think my partner and I adequately addressed--so as much as I generally don't care for these questions, I thought I would pose it to a greater audience.  Over the life of the sport, who has had the greatest and perhaps most lasting impact on the sport of musky fishing?  And of course why?  Thanks everybody, and if the question has been addressed already I do apologize.
esoxlucifer
Posted 6/12/2012 11:52 PM (#564842 - in reply to #564836)
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Posts: 305


buck perry and the lindners. perry with the foundations of modern sport fishing, lindners added such things as emphasis on baitfish and made info more attractive to the masses. lots of you will no doubt want pure musky people here, but they stand on shoulders such as these...maybe throw in rizzo as first that i know of to write about suspended musky.
woodieb8
Posted 6/13/2012 5:25 AM (#564859 - in reply to #564836)
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Posts: 1530


thats a regional question..
Guest who knows
Posted 6/13/2012 6:06 AM (#564862 - in reply to #564836)
Subject: RE: Who had the biggest impact on the sport?


Gil Hamm. Pretty easy one.
Slimeball
Posted 6/13/2012 6:12 AM (#564863 - in reply to #564842)
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Posts: 332


Location: Michigan

Rizzo

Edited by Slimeball 6/13/2012 6:18 AM
Dave
Posted 6/13/2012 7:02 AM (#564869 - in reply to #564836)
Subject: RE: Who had the biggest impact on the sport?


Not an individual, but I would argue that Muskies Inc. has had the greatest impact on our sport by being the pioneers that encouraged catch and release. Almost all muskie fisherman release 99% or more of the fish we catch, and Muskies Inc. is largely responsible.
BenR
Posted 6/13/2012 7:07 AM (#564870 - in reply to #564836)
Subject: Re: Who had the biggest impact on the sport?


Muskies Inc is regional and the best muskie fisheries in NA have very little to do with MI. In the midwest thought MI was big in the past. Still think Homer Leblanc was the man. BR
horsehunter
Posted 6/13/2012 7:22 AM (#564874 - in reply to #564836)
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Location: Eastern Ontario
The old Fishing Facts magazine of the 60's gave us the Lindners,Buck Perry, Babe Winkleman, Spence Petros,it spawned Inn fisherman and Muskie Hunter in the 70's. Imagine a magazine devoted entirely to muskies. Thunder on the Water a whole TV show about muskies
We learned from Art Lawton, Len Hartman,even if the truth was stretched.
We learned from fellow members of Muskies Inc. and Muskies Canada who we fished with over the years so its been a progression of influence.

But the thing that I think that has had the most influence on Muskie fishing is the internet and not always for the better.
BNelson
Posted 6/13/2012 7:22 AM (#564875 - in reply to #564836)
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Location: Contrarian Island
my first reaction to the question acually was Brad Hoppe...cowgirl...how can you argue w that...there isn't a day spent on the water we don't hear the clank of 2 blades hitting each other on the cast... there are def times I wish he hadn't come out with that dammn thing!!!! ; )
Reef Hawg
Posted 6/13/2012 7:28 AM (#564877 - in reply to #564836)
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Location: north central wisconsin
O.G. Schmidt
Mr Musky
Posted 6/13/2012 7:59 AM (#564880 - in reply to #564836)
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Posts: 999


Great point Brad. My first thought though was Joe Bucher. I think he's done alot for our sport over the past 30 years.
UP musky guy
Posted 6/13/2012 8:25 AM (#564883 - in reply to #564836)
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In michigan: Will Schultz
MyliesPlace(Justin)
Posted 6/13/2012 8:26 AM (#564885 - in reply to #564836)
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Posts: 439


Location: Lake of the Woods, Morson, Ontario
Robert F. Strand - Retired Fisheries Biologist, MN DNR

The most important man in muskie fishing you've probably never heard of.

Anyone that's caught a muskie in Minnesota in a lake that doesn't have natural reproduction can thank "The Godfather" of muskie fishing.

Rebel9921
Posted 6/13/2012 8:36 AM (#564887 - in reply to #564836)
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Posts: 203


Location: Minnesota
Cant forget George Wahl who brought us the MN Muskie Expo along with the Eagletails... There are quite a few who would make up the ELITE list, it would seem...
BNelson
Posted 6/13/2012 8:43 AM (#564889 - in reply to #564836)
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Location: Contrarian Island
who was the biggest advocate for C&R back in the day... look at the % of fish killed back in the 70s and now...who had the biggest impact on getting us all on board with C&R...? Bucher was in that era...
Gil Hamm founded Muskies Inc...look at what that org has done for the sport...stocking/education etc.....lots of guys come to mind when you stop to think .......
Zib
Posted 6/13/2012 8:43 AM (#564890 - in reply to #564883)
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Posts: 1405


Location: Detroit River
Jon Bondy gets my vote for most recent impact.
Zib
Posted 6/13/2012 8:50 AM (#564893 - in reply to #564870)
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Posts: 1405


Location: Detroit River
BenR - 6/13/2012 8:07 AM

Muskies Inc is regional and the best muskie fisheries in NA have very little to do with MI. In the midwest thought MI was big in the past. Still think Homer Leblanc was the man. BR


Agree with Homer Leblanc.
Mr Musky
Posted 6/13/2012 9:12 AM (#564900 - in reply to #564836)
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If we want to bring up musky stocking program founders then we must bring up Gene Allen, he was the man behing the Green Bay musky stocking. It was soley his idea to bring them back and it all started with one little jar of eggs from the indian river in Michigan.
ToddM
Posted 6/13/2012 9:17 AM (#564903 - in reply to #564836)
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Posts: 20253


Location: oswego, il
Tons of names to put on the list. To pick just one that has had the most impact hard to do. Hard not to put Mr. Worrall on the list for bringing this fish to the internet in a big way.
CiscoKid
Posted 6/13/2012 9:19 AM (#564905 - in reply to #564903)
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI
ToddM - 6/13/2012 9:17 AM

Tons of names to put on the list. To pick just one that has had the most impact hard to do. Hard not to put Mr. Worrall on the list for bringing this fish to the internet in a big way.


Was it Steve, or Jason Smith?
ski glider
Posted 6/13/2012 9:22 AM (#564907 - in reply to #564836)
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Posts: 177


Lindners,petros,bucher they had me hooked in the 80's with fishing facts and in fisherman magazine
Shep
Posted 6/13/2012 9:29 AM (#564910 - in reply to #564907)
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Louis Spray. His name has spurred more debate, mythology, and controversy than just about anyone else I know.

Either him or Dorazio. Probably a toss up. Which wouldn't be fair, because Dave is so much shorter than Louis was.
Guest
Posted 6/13/2012 9:50 AM (#564916 - in reply to #564836)
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I know most people don't care for him but do not forget Bob Mehsikomer. He did certainly have an impact.
Guest
Posted 6/13/2012 10:06 AM (#564920 - in reply to #564836)
Subject: RE: Who had the biggest impact on the sport?



How are you defining impact??

Best Lure? Biggest impact on conservation? Biggest impact on getting states (like MN) to expand muskie fishing opportunities? Biggest impact on Research?

I can think of 3 people that if any one of them had not been involved in Muskies things would be very different now; Gil Hamm, Bob Strand and Dr. Casselmen.

Lures/guides/celebrities may make you catch more fish, but if the fish aren't there it really doesn't matter does it??

JS
jerryb
Posted 6/13/2012 10:34 AM (#564931 - in reply to #564836)
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Posts: 688


Location: Northern IL
There have been many who have made many positive contributions in all sorts of areas but there's only one when it comes to who made the most lasting impact on "catching a fish" its not even up for debate. The great Buck Perry was the one who made all the 1st discovories. Many have added to but without a foundation of facts from Mr. Perry's teachings the add ons wouldn't have happened and when you ask them who that person was, they all say it was Buck!

If you havn't read this written by Ron Lindner you should: http://www.fishhound.com/blog/opening-salvo-chicago-57
sworrall
Posted 6/13/2012 10:48 AM (#564935 - in reply to #564836)
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Posts: 32930


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
'Was it Steve, or Jason Smith?'

Jason did a great job working with OFM as editor at MuskieFIRST the first couple seasons. So have a number of others working as moderators over the years. Slamr does a great job as MuskieFIRST's managing editor, and has for a very long time.

My vote is Buck followed by the Lindners.
cast10K
Posted 6/13/2012 10:54 AM (#564938 - in reply to #564836)
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Posts: 432


Location: Eagan, MN
For me personally, the anglers who have most influenced how I fish are Doug Stange, Doug Johnson, the Lindners and Tony Rizzo. Of course Gil Hamm and all of the fisheries biologists who contributed to the fishery can't be overlooked. As far as lure inventors, again personally for me, Frank Suick and whoever invented the bucktail.
vegas492
Posted 6/13/2012 11:01 AM (#564939 - in reply to #564836)
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Rizzo hands down. Easy one.
I once heard a quote from an older fisherman at a landing who was talking about great musky anglers and guides. The old guy said "Rizzo has forgotten more about musky fishing than anyone else has ever known."
guest
Posted 6/13/2012 11:05 AM (#564940 - in reply to #564836)
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Wow. I can't believe the number of individuals named who came recent that people mention?

There would be not Hoppe, or any of the Minnesota fishing or guys if it wasn't for stocking. (if Miltona didn't become a stocked lake we would probably have some super walleye bait instead of a double ten.) I agree with JS in Minnesota and Muskies Inc. guys accross the region. Without stocking, release, and the rest of the now old timers we don't have much of a sport.
Hammskie
Posted 6/13/2012 11:18 AM (#564945 - in reply to #564836)
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Posts: 697


Location: Minnetonka
It's a personal thing. Different people have impacted different areas of the sport.

Paul Hartman and Carrie Hoppe have made the biggest impacts on muskie fishing as I know it. Paul because of his relentless stocking efforts and advocacy for new muskie waters in MN, as well as his radical and competitive muskie tournament trail. Carrie because she invented the best bait(s) I've ever used–a pioneer of the bucktail world.
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