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NOFEAR
Posted 5/18/2012 10:14 PM (#560645)
Subject: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 208


With a new season approaching (Thank you Lord!) lets talk about things that are truly
important.

ETIQUETTE

1: Always tip your hat or say hello to the next fishermen.
Why? You know what i'm talking about! Ever get that look from the other boat at the launch like your on there private lake. Just go out and have fun! I'm seeing a trend where some people act like there fishing the WMC (World Musky Championship)
2: Keep your distance
Why? I feel your OK to follow a boat but never cut in front!! And if you can see what bait their throwing your following to close. If it's a small reef stay away!
3: Load & Unload
Why? Time is against all of us but be respectful at the ramp. There's nothing better than to see someone helping out the next person. Just asking if you need help goes MILES but keep it MOVING! Then again theirs nothing worse than to watch someone unpack there boat and load there vehicle while there still in the ramp area blocking others.

4: What have i missed?

Have a great season everyone!

FISH ON!






ulbian
Posted 5/18/2012 10:24 PM (#560647 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 1168


If you are a boat slut at least offer the guy taking you out something. Gas money, a beer, a burger... I personally won't accept it because I'd be out anyway but it's nice to know you aren't intentionally taking advantage of a guy and his equipment.

A related point about that first one...if you hop in someone else's boat and don't offer anything to the owner, don't turn around and turn into a whiny little spoiled brat when someone hops into your boat and doesn't offer anything to ride along with you. That's being a hypocrite. It's annoying and people talk about this type of thing. Do it enough and no one will offer a spot in their boat for you anymore.

Don't cut your boat partner off. If the two of you are easing up onto a point or a reef there is no need to get competitive and shotgun as many casts in front of the guy on the trolling motor or vice versa just so you can get your bait on that water first. You are destroying an efficient and effective approach to a piece of structure.

If you see a buddy on the water and you notice that three guys in that boat all are figure 8ing at boat side, making short casts back to nearby spots you can pretty much guarantee that they have a fish up. This is not the time to come barreling in and pull up along side them and ask; "Have you guys seen anything?"
Ranger
Posted 5/18/2012 10:32 PM (#560651 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





Posts: 3913


1) Don't take any #*#* from anyone if you've done nothing wrong.

2) Be nice

3) Share info

4) See #1
FAT-SKI
Posted 5/18/2012 10:42 PM (#560652 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: RE: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 1360


Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished
adding a little to the not crowding point.

If you are in a larger boat like a 20ft Ranger, Don't come barraling in a the guy in a little boat (me) and try to push us off of a spot. Just because you own the nicer and better boat, does not mean you own the lake.

2 more weeks and I'll be sleeping on the water...
Kirby Budrow
Posted 5/18/2012 10:47 PM (#560654 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





Posts: 2385


Location: Chisholm, MN
Release all your muskies very quickly where you caught them. Don't bring one back to the dock for a picture or try and put it in another lake!
sworrall
Posted 5/18/2012 10:52 PM (#560656 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





Posts: 32935


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Remember sounds travels over the water. Apply accordingly.

Get out of the way after pulling your boat out of the water, and don't back down until you are ready to launch

Not everyone is a muskie angler. Let's not convince the rest of the entire freshwater fishing world it's an unattractive attribute.

Remember... when the dust all settles it's just a fish. Apply accordingly.

If you see me, offer to buy me a beer. I'm deserving. I have no clue why. In fact, most of the time, I have no clue. That is why I fish muskies.
bmxrider11976
Posted 5/19/2012 8:49 AM (#560686 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





Posts: 147


Location: Northern New Jersey
most of the time a simple acknowledgement is enough for me. the cliche "any luck" or "beautiful weather" are fine. i don't even care if i know youre lying about what you tell me, just do not be rude about it. was launching the other day with my buddy and i noticed a guy at the dock by himself trying to launch. we got my buddies boat ready to go, and headed down to the dock (as we always do to check the water level to see if we can launch), and i noticed the guy was struggling. i offered up a hello and got a grunt in return. i offered to grab his dock line if he threw it to me on the dock, and he gave me a death stare. said good luck to him as he was leaving the dock and he didn't say a word in return. well his bitterness probably escalated when i boated a fish before we left dockside and he saw us elated about it. it seems as if some people go out of their way to be grunchy. we are fishing. youre on a boat, most likely with a good friend. you are doing what you enjoy. you are in what is supposed to be your happy place. as i said earlier i don't care if you lie to my face, just have a smile on when you are doing so and only you will find only courtesy in return.
Pointerpride102
Posted 5/19/2012 9:07 AM (#560690 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Remember, I carry a firearm.
esoxaddict
Posted 5/19/2012 10:53 AM (#560703 - in reply to #560690)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





Posts: 8842


Pointerpride102 - 5/19/2012 9:07 AM

Remember, I carry a firearm.


Everywhere except IL...
fish4musky1
Posted 5/19/2012 11:06 AM (#560705 - in reply to #560652)
Subject: RE: Proper Etiquette





Location: Northern Wisconsin
FAT-SKI - 5/18/2012 10:42 PM

adding a little to the not crowding point.

If you are in a larger boat like a 20ft Ranger, Don't come barraling in a the guy in a little boat (me) and try to push us off of a spot. Just because you own the nicer and better boat, does not mean you own the lake.

2 more weeks and I'll be sleeping on the water...


This happens to me a lot when I'm in my kayak. Last weekend my dad and I were casting along a shore, probably about 200 ft apart, and a bass boat motored up and drops the bow mount right between us! Their lines were practically over my stern as they casted. Couldn't believe it.
Jeremy
Posted 5/19/2012 11:29 AM (#560709 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 1150


Location: Minnesota.
I'm always a good guy at the ramp and on the water. Always smiling and happy. Never a cuss word. Never a grumpy 'tude.

He_ _, I get real sick an' tired of myself...
GanderMTN-MAN
Posted 5/19/2012 12:03 PM (#560710 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 86


Location: north metro, MN
didn't take the time to read them all on account I have to leave for work so if someone already said this then I am sorry for posting it again.. if its dark then please turn your lights off after you have backed your trailer into the water. If you leave them on and its a double ramp the next person can not see a dang thing while trying to back in. Also after you pull your boat out don't stop 20 yards in front of the ramp, get your rig out of there! pull to the middle of the lot or if its busy enough pull as far away from the ramp as possible.
ToddM
Posted 5/19/2012 1:38 PM (#560721 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





Posts: 20263


Location: oswego, il
To the people wbo repeatedly about face me when we aproach each other i thank you and $%&* you. Thanks for thinking i am a good enough fisherman that you could not catch a fish in water i have been through. I did not have that confidence in your ability. And the latter for just being that rude.

Edited by ToddM 5/19/2012 1:39 PM
MuskieMike
Posted 5/19/2012 7:22 PM (#560746 - in reply to #560703)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





Location: Des Moines IA
esoxaddict - 5/19/2012 10:53 AM

Pointerpride102 - 5/19/2012 9:07 AM

Remember, I carry a firearm.


Everywhere except IL...


That's why I try and stay out of IL. Can't strap the glock on. Well, legally anyway!!!!!
cocathntr
Posted 5/19/2012 8:31 PM (#560749 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 86


Location: colorado
if my boat looks like a spider and after you stop right in front of me im to busy to say hi. that is because we are very busy getting lines and planner boards out of your way. sorry if you think i am being rude.
goose007us
Posted 5/19/2012 11:06 PM (#560762 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: RE: Proper Etiquette


Have to agree w / the big boat / small boat thing. Cant tell you how many times (tournaments and "free" fishing) this has happened to me on the water and even at the ramp. And yes, I am following all the "rules of the ramp/lake" mentioned above. Just makes me fish that much harder.
Hunter4
Posted 5/20/2012 7:18 AM (#560778 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 720


I know this is stating the obvious. But just be nice. Say good morning, be helpful at the launch and on the water. You're working a reef and someone is anchored on it . Don't throw your casts right up to there boat. I've seen this one a lot. Its rude and makes us all look bad. Finally, along with being nice. Smile when you're out there. Don't act like you're out there trying to cure cancer. We're just fishing.
Almost-B-Good
Posted 5/20/2012 9:40 AM (#560795 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: RE: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 433


Location: Cedarburg, Wisconsin
It's not nice to drive between the other fisherman and the shoreline if he's casting up to the shoreline.

It isn't helpful running past someone with the nose of your boat pointed towards the sky. When someone asks you how fishing was and you answer "Swell!" it shouldn't describe the wake heights.

If you see me catch a fish, please wait till I get it out of the net before you come over and start casting exactly where I caught it. Pictures need clean backgrounds.

If you want to shoot the breeze about fishing during the day I'd be more than happy to exchange info as long as you approach me from the side I'm not casting towards.

If you see a person trolling, it's not polite to pretend it's the war of 1812 and you're in a British ship of the line working on crossing the "T". (Cutting across his stern if you're history impaired)

Weedbeds are for fishing, not motoring through if there is another route.

Ripping the weedbeds to pieces on every cast is not macho. It's about catching fish, not littering the surface with salad fixin's.

If your boat runs fast enough to create a breeze, stow the empty cans, candy wrappers, lures packages, and plastic bags before motoring down the lake and looking like a garbage blizzard in progress.

Have a nice day!
The Swan
Posted 5/20/2012 12:26 PM (#560805 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: RE: Proper Etiquette


Do unto others...
Junkman
Posted 5/20/2012 12:41 PM (#560807 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 1220


I've learned over the years that there are two ways (at least) to ask, "Hey, would you like some help?" One way has a sound in your voice that sounds a lot more like, "Geeze are you going to get that thing backed up sometime today?" and another way sounds more like, "Gee, I used to have so much trouble getting my boat in here, but I sort of learned a few tricks that really help!" Just like when you talk to your dog, the words mean nothing much but the attitude means everything.
Guest
Posted 5/20/2012 4:57 PM (#560827 - in reply to #560807)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette


Junkman, you're right, but even with a pleasant disposition in my heart and the most genuine inflection in my voice, still sounds condescending to me everytime I say it or hear it get said. 9 out of 10 times what gets heard is, "Are you too stupid to load that thing?!"
JimtenHaaf
Posted 5/20/2012 5:06 PM (#560829 - in reply to #560827)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





Posts: 717


Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Sorry, Junkman ,but I have to disagree. If there is someone having trouble backing in a trailer, THAT'S improper etiquette. You should practice in a parking lot or something before heading out to the launch. Now, the actual loading of a boat, I guess that just takes some experience so I'll be a little more patient with those people.
Nick59
Posted 5/20/2012 5:41 PM (#560831 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: RE: Proper Etiquette





Posts: 548


Location: MN
Hey... You guys are posting all this great info on the wrong forum. Need to post this on the 'Walleye' forum!!!

All Muskie fisherman do things the right way.

Louis
Posted 5/21/2012 11:43 AM (#560978 - in reply to #560831)
Subject: RE: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 97


Location: Milwaukee, WI
A few rules that I try to remember and practice:

#1: Not everyone is as aware of the "unwritten rules" of etiquette. More often than not, they aren't intentionally being a jackass - they just don't know any better. If the situation allows, try to educate people.

#2: If they are just being an intentional jackass, be polite and don't get angry. Fighting fire with fire doesn't help. Be the bigger man and let it go. It's fishing, not splitting the atom or curing cancer.
jakejusa
Posted 5/21/2012 12:38 PM (#560992 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: RE: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 994


Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan!
Those of us that fish waters where we have lost a majority of our cabbage beds sure hate to see other boats rippin' it up as they fish. It's been said that it does not hinder the growth, but history shows a different outcome. Same goes for driving the bost through cabbage beds.
nwild
Posted 5/21/2012 12:45 PM (#560994 - in reply to #560978)
Subject: RE: Proper Etiquette





Posts: 1996


Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain
If you are going to be on the water after dark, please turn on your anchor light. Way too many adrenaline pumping occurences the last couple of years coming up to unlit boats in the dark of night.
edalz
Posted 5/21/2012 12:47 PM (#560996 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





Posts: 458


I think its a whole lot better to start off treating people with respect. I saw a guy having issues launching his boat and I went over to help. Turned out he had some disabilities and could use the help. We all begin somewhere and to start your day off being a tool isn't very good musky karma in my book. It's just fishing and it should be enjoyable.
Brad P
Posted 5/21/2012 1:00 PM (#560998 - in reply to #560645)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette




Posts: 833


Make sure to shine the spot light in the eyes of the pleasure boater coming at you in the channel with his head lights on BEFORE giving him the lecture about ruining your night vision and having said lights on being illegal, not after. It just doesn't carry the same weight if you do it in a different order.

toothycritter88
Posted 5/21/2012 1:13 PM (#561001 - in reply to #560998)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





I was fishing a shoreline and was maybe 30 yards off the end of the dock and had some jerks waterski in between me and the docks. After their second time around going in between me and the dock I could see that they were doing it intentionally. So I clipped on a big lure and flung it and bounced it off the side of their boat as they went around the 3rd time. They didnt do it again after that. I just don't see why people have to be that ignorant. Ya know. If your gonna water ski do it on the outside of people fishing or get off the water.
gtp888
Posted 5/21/2012 1:16 PM (#561003 - in reply to #560690)
Subject: Re: Proper Etiquette





Location: Sun Prairie, WI

Pointerpride102 - 5/19/2012 9:07 AM Remember, I carry a firearm.

So what?  What are you gonna do with that, pull it out if someone says something you don't like?  You're saying you're gonna shoot someone?  Yeah, right!  And what good is it to let someone know you are carrying a firearm just b/c they say something you don't like?  They know you aren't gonna shoot.  They'll just laugh in your face the same way I would.

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