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| The Senate voted down the amendment for the fishing and hunting lic. increase yesterday. We need to act fast, please read the instructions on the opening page as some legislators wont use e-mail and have to be contacted on their webpage. please take the time.
Without this we are out of money next year.
www.votervoice.net/Groups/MNMUSKIE/Advocacy/
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Location: Bemidji | If this doesnt get passed good luck trying to get new muskie lakes. |
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| There's a good possibility they wont be managing allot of fish they way they did this year if it doesn't go. Some of these people didn't understand what they were voting on from our indications, one of the key players thinks it needs some work and our hope is he will help it go. One legislator that will only take input by phone is Senator Tom Bakk his phone is 651.296.8881 Please call him as well.
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Seriously? I thought this was a no brainer!!!!!!! Didn't they combine this with the early opener bill too? What a crock!!!!!!! |
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Location: syracuse indiana | can anyone say anything about this. or do you have to be a mn resident |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | I think anyone can |
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| I think its working for even non-residents
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Location: Bemidji/Cass Lake | "Some of these people didn't understand what they were voting on from our indications..."
Do they ever? These people should not be involved in decisions involving lakes/wildlife. When I've listened to the discussions it sounds as though all senate/reps are reading these things for the first time and jotting notes in crayon. If you're not qualified to make a decision then please dont. Beef up the DNR stucture a little more and let them do it all. |
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Location: WI | Since when do politicians dislike fee increases? |
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| The MN legislature is really on a roll this week... |
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Location: Minnesota | JKahler - 4/19/2012 12:00 AM
Since when do politicians dislike fee increases?
They're being held hostage by the NFL. They have to make cuts where they can. |
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Location: Minnetonka | Time taken. Thanks for the heads up. |
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| I must be the only one that is pleased by this anouncement. Private companies and individuals can still donate there time and money to have things like stocking, research and lake maintenance be done on that waters they use and enjoy. No need in my opinion for the state/dnr to mis-spend my money. |
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| glad to help John |
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Location: WI | Kodiak_HL - 4/19/2012 1:40 PM
I must be the only one that is pleased by this anouncement. Private companies and individuals can still donate there time and money to have things like stocking, research and lake maintenance be done on that waters they use and enjoy. No need in my opinion for the state/dnr to mis-spend my money.
Ha! |
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Location: The desert | Kodiak_HL - 4/19/2012 12:40 PM
I must be the only one that is pleased by this anouncement. Private companies and individuals can still donate there time and money to have things like stocking, research and lake maintenance be done on that waters they use and enjoy. No need in my opinion for the state/dnr to mis-spend my money.
Hahaha!
My guess is you have absolutely no clue where your license dollars go. |
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MN DNR BUDGET
Fisheries budget: $33.8million
Wildlife budget: $31.7million
Enforcement budget: $21million
Ecological and Water Resource budget: $4.7million
Licensing budget: $4.5million
Boat Access budget: $2.2 million
Forest and Land Management: $2.7million
That's 100.6 million dollars to work with a year. License fee's make up about 1/2 of fisheries budget, which puts it at 16.9 million. Dirk Peterson is quoted in saying that license fee's make up 18million of the over 100million dollar budget, so we'll use his numbers. The MN DNR sold about 1.4million fishing licenses in 2011.
They want to raise the fee's on hunting/fishing licenses between 4-20 dollars. I don't hunt anymore so I won't include those (and this is a fishing site as well). My adult married license goes up $16 dollars. 50% of that increase goes towards fisheries.
Now.... outdoor activities by individuals and families are being cut because they have less disposable income. (Oh by way, this is the reason why they are running out of money.) In 2 or 3 years when things are back to normal, are they going to reduce the licensee fee because more individuals are enjoying the outdoors and they have a surplus of funds......
The simple fact of the matter is local/state government, including the DNR has to be able to budget and live on the funds that they have available at the time including the lean years. If the people that manage the money would just simply save money from year to year. Things like "this" are significantly less likely to happen, but that is not what states and the DNR do. If they have extra money before the end of the year, they go into a mad rush to spend it, because the next year's budget is based on there previous years spending.
The system is broken, agree or disagree. Jumping to the conclusion that you can fix everything by taking someone's hard earned money as a short term solution is what caused the financial mess that the state of MN, and uncle sam is in now. |
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| We need these now guys and gals, decide how important Muskie, Pike and fisheries management is to you and send the letters now. We have hours not weeks. http://www.votervoice.net/Core/core.aspx?Screen=Alert&APP=GAC&AID=1356&IssueID=28488&SiteID=-1&VV_CULTURE=en-us |
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Location: NE Twin Cities Metro | Idiots in the capitol can't get anything right and when they finally do, its too late or the damage is already done. Look at the whole stadium debacle. Blaa. |
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Location: Eagan, MN | Kodiak, I appreciate problem with the usual political 'solution' of throwing more money at a problem. However, you quote some numbers but don't really go anywhere with it. What is your point? Is $100M the right amount? What makes you think that it is? Just curious what you're basing it on.
Also, are you saying that 50% of the fisheries budget is derived from license fees, OR that only 50% license fees go towards fisheries? Two totally different meanings. |
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| http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/aboutdnr/budget/bottom_line/thankyou.p...
Lic increase info on where your money goes, pretty good lookin fella wrangling Muskies in that pamphlet as well  |
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Location: Eagan, MN | I just sent another email to my representatives as well as the senate and house leadership. Though I'm upset with the lack of progress, I kept things respectful. Please, I encourage all of you to show your support. With our lakes and streams increasingly under attack from invasive species, now is not the time to be under-funding the DNR. |
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| 10k,
the numbers portion of the response was for PP more then anything else. When I posted my thoughts on this, it was pointed out that because of my opinion I must not know where my money goes in respect to the MN DNR. The fisheries budget is 35m for MN, half of that budget is made up from license fee's that go directly to "fisheries".
My overall view on this, is that if less people are enjoying lakes, rivers, streams and the outdoors in general, that making cuts in the DNR would be a better solution in my view point until the numbers of folks that are spending more time outdoors increase, which will increase the DNR's budget. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | That viewpoint is one I am very glad very few people share.
Fisheries are not managed 'for the moment', they are managed for the future, with quite a bit of forethought going a decade or more into the future. If the budget is continuously cut drastically now, expect the future of fishing in MN to suffer accordingly. The exact same thing is happening across the country to fisheries and game management departments. In this case, sportsmen and women have stepped up and REQUESTED increases so critical services will not be lost. They are, plain and simple, asking all sportsmen and women to invest in everyone's future fishing experience. I'd do it. |
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Location: Eagan, MN | Kodiak, I understand that you posted the numbers in an attempt to vouch for your credibility, but simply posting some numbers that you could've obtained by spending 30 seconds on Google doesn't accomplish that. My point is that you posted the numbers, but didn't use them to prove any point or advance your argument.
So I'll ask again, why do you believe that the current license fee generates enough revenue to maintain the quality of fish and game that we currently enjoy in MN? |
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Location: Eagan, MN | Kodiak_HL - 4/26/2012 1:02 PM
My overall view on this, is that if less people are enjoying lakes, rivers, streams and the outdoors in general, that making cuts in the DNR would be a better solution in my view point until the numbers of folks that are spending more time outdoors increase, which will increase the DNR's budget.
So can we assume that you're going to put your money where your mouth is and do your part by spending less time outdoors? |
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| We need it NOW, they meet at 7:00 PM Send the e-mails now please http://www.votervoice.net/Core/core.aspx?Screen=Alert&APP=GAC&AID=1356&IssueID=28567&SiteID=-1&VV_CULTURE=en-us Non residents call 651-296-3135 |
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Location: Plymouth IA | called and explained that while i live in Iowa have lots of family in MN that vote and will be at the reunion to tell about who voted for what. Last time i went to the family get together there were almost 1500 of us. hope this helps and i will be following through. |
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| Definetly possible spending less time fishing w/ the cost of gas....fishing is becoming very expensive and adding the cost of gas to the bill makes it even tougher for alot of people to want to drop that much money on it..a few yrs when gas was over 4 gallon the lake traffic was alot less overall |
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| Senator Bakk worked very hard to get the Conservation Lic several years ago, basically you pay 2/3rds and keep 1/2 a limit. This works out well for me because I C&R all muskies and we only keep 2-3 walleyes and maybe 1 red finned Pike for a meal anyway. The DNR wanted it out and Senator Bakk got it back for that I thank him. Ive bought it every year since they implemented it. So you'll be able to get a lic for under 20 bucks. The alternative to this increase is doing what we have done for 12 years and piling it on Non-residents, I think its important we keep tourism attractive as well. Call now so the assistant can get your message to the Legislators in the AM or hit the Voter Voice if your a resident. We are getting some good response's from legislators from what Ive heard from others. http://www.votervoice.net/Core/core.aspx?Screen=Alert&APP=GAC&AID=1356&IssueID=28567&SiteID=-1&VV_CULTURE=en-us Non residents call 651-296-3135 |
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