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Location: Okoboji | i wish i could find like 50 hellhound blanks to do customs up on and bring to the show with me.... does anyone have a channel through erc? i would like make 5 patterns and number each one.
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| Sorry wish I could help you man. When I was a partner in ERC I had boxes of them lying around. As blasphemous as it sounds, I threw out out a couple boxes of them a few years ago when I moved because I didn’t have the room. It would have been unethical for me to do anything else with them. Drifter molds them in house now doubt you’ll find any. |
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Location: Okoboji | #*^@!!! hope is still out (Maybe) |
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| WHAT PATTERNS WERE YOU THINKING? DO YOU HAVE ANY PICS? I KNOW THE BLANKS MAY BE HARD TO GET BUT YOU MAY HAVE SOME BUSINESS AT LEAST WITH RE-PAINTING. PUT SOME PICS UP AND YOU MAY GET SOMEONES INTEREST. WERE YOU THINKING A SHOW THIS YEAR OR NEXT? |
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| just realized my caps lock was on...also have you contacted erc to see if they would cut you a break if you buy alot of them? just a thought. |
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Location: Okoboji | No I haven't contacted them. I can get some pics but I was going to try to get some done for the mn show or the swaps
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Location: Okoboji | I have more than enough baits to paint. Between the two bait companies I shoot for and all my friends throwing stuff my way..I figured I would just do some for the show and try to turn em for some fishing slush fund money |
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| What two companies do you spray for? You got any pics of your stuff? |
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| Will one of the colors you paint for the shows be the "baddest on earth"?? I'm pretty sure drifter already has a lemonhead. How much will you sell a painted hellhound for? I have seen some guys sell them here on this site for upwards of 35$, but the paint jobs on those are top notch, maybe a little more than the "baddest on earth". Not saying anything bad just saying it will be tuff to sell baits for a decent profit at 15$ per blank if you don't have pretty killer detailed paint work. I am certain there is going to be a good amount of competition there too.  |
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Location: Okoboji | Joel Y. - 2/27/2012 8:48 PM
Will one of the colors you paint for the shows be the "baddest on earth"?? I'm pretty sure drifter already has a lemonhead. How much will you sell a painted hellhound for? I have seen some guys sell them here on this site for upwards of 35$, but the paint jobs on those are top notch, maybe a little more than the "baddest on earth". Not saying anything bad just saying it will be tuff to sell baits for a decent profit at 15$ per blank if you don't have pretty killer detailed paint work. I am certain there is going to be a good amount of competition there too. ;)
define top notch. 15 layers of epoxy, scales??? baddest meant how the bait flowed and how the eyes popped..and it will plain work on a certain lake,,i was happy how it turned out. i can do all the super detail work just like everyone else...i paint them for buddies and for my personal use so i bang them out fast and use and abuse them. i am not going to come on here and chest pound..guys that paint on here know what i can do.
so back to the topic at hand...i was wanting to do 5 baits for 5 top lakes in mn. not a museum piece. i would take the best historical color for lake x and do a hellhound up in it with my interpretation of the bait. i thought it would be a fun project.
why dont you guest just sign up for an account if you want to contribute,,it is free and you can join a great community with tons of info.
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Location: Money, PA | "baddest on earth" could be just a bit misleading though....just sayin'.
I'm interested in seeing more of your work kodiak. I look forward to your future paint work posts for sure. |
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Location: Okoboji | lol...maybe but i thought it rocked for the effort put into it. and the way it glows and how intense the eyes look. |
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Location: Pigeon Forge TN. | Kodiak is a very good painter and can put "knock out" work on just about anything. I have a lure with a pattern that I call the "Baddest on Earth" simply because of the amount of fish it has nailed not because it is any better than anyone else's paint job.
I see what you mean about the wording of Kodiaks phrase, but even I don't seriously think he was trying to put anyone down. He is proud of what he does and I have to say I can't blame him. |
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Location: Okoboji | thank ya stan, i was not trying to chest pound or offend my fellow painters. i respect everyone in here. |
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Location: Money, PA | Hey, I just love looking at the various talents around here...and as far as forums are concerned, I have never found more agreeable, friendly and helpful forums than that of lure making. If I ask to see ones work, it is because I'm truely interested in seeing the work/talents and NOT trying to call one out to the table on anything. Sharing our ideas, techniques and workmanship is what this is all about really. A wealth of information, ideas and pleasure is what I find in here and I truely appreciate it. |
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Location: Pigeon Forge TN. | Kodiak,
No offense taken bud.
Just show more of your work Even as a painter, I like to see what other painters come up with. The talent on this board is awesome to say the least.
ShutNFish,
Well said my man. I agree completely. I think this MF board is the best out there. And I am not not Knocking the others but this is where I go the most.
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Location: Central Wisconsin | I'm still trying to figure out what's so bad about an epoxy top coat. Good baits catch fish regardless of whats on top. Look at the repaint market for example. Sounds like you repaint a lot of factory finishes that have worn. Just curious, |
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Location: Okoboji | anything you put on a bait will weigh it down and change the action.. i repaint worn finishes and i do sand the good finish off and put what the person wants on it and hit it with 2k auto clear...i feel (opinion) that it holds up better. I know stan uses auto clear. and i feel (opinion) that a couple coats of 2k wieghs a lot less than epoxy but i could be wrong
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Location: Money, PA | DIZZYHORSE - 2/28/2012 9:45 AM
I'm still trying to figure out what's so bad about an epoxy top coat. Good baits catch fish regardless of whats on top. Look at the repaint market for example. Sounds like you repaint a lot of factory finishes that have worn. Just curious,
Who are you talking to?
As for "good baits catch fish, regardless of topcoat"....you are certainly correct there. However, in todays muskie bait market, when a consumer pays upwards of $25 to $40 for a lure; there will be certain expectations in quality and durability. I personally feel there is no more durable topcoat than an epoxy coating and I've worked with both.
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Location: Central Wisconsin | Just a general comment. I too use epoxy and factor in its weight when designing a lure. I think an autoclear coat on a wood bait is more apt to fail when subjected to temp variations. Plastic baits... I cant speak to that as I don't work with those. Good conversation though, I would like to hear more experiences on both, if its OK to use Jason's thread. |
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| I have several Hellhounds with etex topcoats and every one runds as good as factory finished hellhounds.
Some of those have three coats of etex and they all with out any noticable change in action. |
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Location: Pigeon Forge TN. | I agree with ShutupNFish on the epoxy. I, too, have used both. I just don't have the room and time to work with the epoxy anymore as my mancave is limited in space to work in. I use my auto two part on everything from wood to plastic and have been told that it holds up very well. Once in a while I forget to put an extra layer on if I have lures hanging all over the drying rack and if they let me know if it peels, I will take care of it pronto.
I haven't had any trouble with my lures. That's how I do my experimentation.
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Location: Money, PA | Now, I do have to say that one of the nicest auto clearcoat finishes I've seen out there is the Wiley.... Dale applies about 3 to 4 heavy coats of clear to his lures and they look as close to the epoxy as I've seen. I have not seen your work up close Stan, but am assuming you do the same. |
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Location: Okoboji | it is more cost effective also you can get a gallon of omni production clear that with reducer/hardener that makes over 2.5 sprayable gallons for under 100bucks. plus it saves time and goes on perfect everytime shooting it,,,the downsize is the toxicity...i cannot stress proper respirators and ventilation enough. and one more thing is you dont have to turn it.
feel free go ahead and discuss the two i would like to know everyones experiences too, i use both also. |
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Location: Okoboji | well i sent a message to drifter on purchasing 50 blanks without hooks and rings...we will see. |
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Location: Okoboji | here is a TINY sampling of my work,,,,,when i first started.....i am vastly superior now but i dont take pics anymore. lol I am embarassed to even put this crap up here.
Edited by kodiak 3/1/2012 10:48 AM
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Location: Okoboji | yeah ahha, buddy wanted them.
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Location: Money, PA | No offense but these are your own words..."i can do all the super detail work just like everyone else...i paint them for buddies and for my personal use so i bang them out fast and use and abuse them. i am not going to come on here and chest pound..guys that paint on here know what i can do."
Then you proceeded to post 40+ lures of your work....you really have nobody to answer to man. I think the above paint jobs really look good and will certainly catch fish. I'd really like to see some of that super detail work you do though, whenever you have some time....Thanks.
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Location: Okoboji | YOU ASKED FOR THE FREAKING PICS????
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