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Location: Lake of the Woods, Morson, Ontario | I put this on on the resort forum this morning, but thought maybe the crew here would be interested as well.
Confirmed through Pure Fishing that this reel is no longer being made/offered.
Those of you that prefer the mid range gear ratio of the 5.4:1 model should think consider whether or not you would like another one of these before nobody has any left. Retailers will have a tough time restocking these reels as distributors run out of them, there won't be any more coming once the last run is gone.
The Toro 60 HS will still be available.
The Toro 60 Winch is backordered until July so availability before then could be an issue as well.
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Location: Okoboji | why???? |
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Location: Canada | That doesn't make any sense? |
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Location: Eagan, MN | Justin, were you able to get anymore info out of them? Is there a similar new model being introduced? |
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Location: Okoboji | Isn't it just the lefty that is being cut out |
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Location: Lake of the Woods, Morson, Ontario | It doesn't make any sense to me either. I tried to order the regular toro 60 through them and they said it was a no-go. They offered to send me the HS in place of both the regular toro and the winch that I have on backorder.
Confirmation came from corporate in SC. I'm not sure there will ever be a good reason for or answer to why.
Thorne has 10 left after I spoke for 2 of the dozen they have in the store. |
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Location: Okoboji | Well I might be thinking twice about selling my spare now.... |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | Huh...??????
What are they replacing it with...? I saw that Abu Garcia posted a new Revo "bass" reel on Facebook being sponsored by Mike Iaconelli. But there hasn't been any mention of a new Revo Toro-series reel at all.
This is disheartening. Looks like I better get another 5.4:1 reel as a back-up. Or... I hope they come out with a new and improved replacement sometime soon.
Anyone able to get any other additional information out of Abu Garcia??? |
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Location: Des Moines IA | I would think the 5:4 to 1 is the most popular ratio for the Toros myself? Maybe not though? Hopefully they have something new in the works. |
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Location: Eagan, MN | I would have to think they have something new in the works... maybe a well kept secret will be revealed at icast in july. If not we'll just have to wait for shimano's rumored low profile 500. |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | cast10K - 5/25/2011 12:45 PM I would have to think they have something new in the works... maybe a well kept secret will be revealed at icast in july. If not we'll just have to wait for shimano's rumored low profile 500.
I really hope that's the case. I cannot imagine them flat-out discontinuing a reel that has always gotten rave reviews.
Hard to imagine they're even able to significantly improve upon a reel that everyone seems to love (at least, those of us who love low-profile baitcasters)
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Location: Okoboji | Shimano 500. That sounds awesome |
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| MyliesPlace(Justin) - 5/25/2011 11:42 AM
I put this on on the resort forum this morning, but thought maybe the crew here would be interested as well.
Confirmed through Pure Fishing that this reel is no longer being made/offered.
Those of you that prefer the mid range gear ratio of the 5.4:1 model should think consider whether or not you would like another one of these before nobody has any left. Retailers will have a tough time restocking these reels as distributors run out of them, there won't be any more coming once the last run is gone.
The Toro 60 HS will still be available.
The Toro 60 Winch is backordered until July so availability before then could be an issue as well.
What the H? |
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| Forgive my ignorance and in no way am I trying to discredit the post but...
What is "Pure Fishing" and how do they tie into what products Abu Garcia sells, makes, or discontinues?
It would seem irrational to discontinue a reel that everyone loves and the stores can never keep in stock---what am I missing?
Funny I just received my second Torr 60-- 5.4:1 in the mail from MTO---now I have two of them to go along with the 60 winch.
Best reel I have ever used period. If the report is true glad I already have two of them!
Talk about a strange world---they keep making the C 3 and discontinue the Torro 60-5.4:1---perhaps the federal government was involved in this decision? |
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Location: North Central IL USA | Storm Strike - 5/25/2011 5:00 PM
Talk about a strange world---they keep making the C 3 and discontinue the Torro 60-5.4:1---perhaps the federal government was involved in this decision?
Right! This is insanity!! |
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Location: Eagan, MN | Storm Strike - 5/25/2011 5:00 PM
Forgive my ignorance and in no way am I trying to discredit the post but...
What is "Pure Fishing" and how do they tie into what products Abu Garcia sells, makes, or discontinues?
It would seem irrational to discontinue a reel that everyone loves and the stores can never keep in stock---what am I missing?
Funny I just received my second Torr 60-- 5.4:1 in the mail from MTO---now I have two of them to go along with the 60 winch.
Best reel I have ever used period. If the report is true glad I already have two of them!
Talk about a strange world---they keep making the C 3 and discontinue the Torro 60-5.4:1---perhaps the federal government was involved in this decision?
Pure Fishing = parent company for abu
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pure+fishing |
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| $275, they aren't selling enough or not making a big enough profit!! Let them go and they'll bring it back in two years for half the money. I hope |
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Location: Wisconsin | 50 size too? |
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Location: Hugo, MN | I heard something about this before, but thought it was just the leftys. The rumor was that people generally wanted either the winch or the high speed. This doesn't make sense to people in our little musky world, but it makes sense in the grand scheme of things. I hope this is true and they go on clearance soon. I'd probably buy a couple. |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | I sent a message to Abu Garcia last night on Facebook. They responded to me via Facebook message.
At 7:13 a.m. (CST), they wrote: "Scott, the news you have heard is true. The Revo Toro 50/51 & 60/61 reel in the 5.4:1 gear ratio will be discontinued later this year. The Revo Toro Winch and Revo Toro HS models will continue to be available."
Sad, indeed. There was no mention if a new reel would be taking its place. I did ask the question and understandbly so, they avoided it. |
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Location: Okoboji | sucks |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Weird news. Maybe I am glad I never bought one... won't know what I'm missing. I know the musky segment of the market is quite small compared to the others, but this still seems like a mistake? My bass reels are not high or low speed either... What is the reel marketed towards? Seems kind of big for a bass reel, I don't see people dropping that much money on a catfish reel. What else are big reels commonly used for in freshwater?
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Location: APPLETON, WI | It makes no sense to me at all. I think the 5.4:1 gear ratio coupled with the line retrieve per crank was a good middle-point for most baits. I could see eliminating either the Winch or the HS since they're really focused to ONE particular type of retrieve, bait type, etc, etc. Overall, it just seems like a horrible marketing decision on Abu Garcia's part.
I can only hope that they will soon replace it with something else.
Like I said, on their Facebook page... they did just recently premier a new Revo bass reel that Mike Iaconelli seems to be sponsoring fairly hard. Perhaps they're revamping things and have a new Revo Toro in the works, as well?
Nonetheless, I'm disappointed. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Look at it this way on a 75' cast with 5.4:1 gears you will turn the reel handle 34.6 times to reel in a bait, with 4.6:1 gears you will have turn the reel handle 40.9 times, only 6.3 more turns of the handle. The 6.4:1 you will turn the handle only 29 times. The Musky segment is so small in the big picture of fishing world, I can see why they are pulling the plug on the 5.4:1 gears.
I wonder if the Shimano 500 will have more then 1 gear ????
I heard it will not be out this year, maybe 2013. |
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| Bad News,Folks !!!
To me it is a marketing's choice and nothing else...
I suggest two solutions:
1) Buy them online in Europe ( Italy,Germany,Sweden,French,Holland,ecc. )
2) Buying 50-51/60-61 Toro HS and/or 50-51/60-61 Toro Winch and change their main gear with a 5.4:1 main gear (if you don't find the 5.4:1 gear in Usa/Canada ,try to find it online in Europe)
Hope to help you
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Location: APPLETON, WI | PIKEMASTER - 5/26/2011 9:39 AM Look at it this way on a 75' cast with 5.4:1 gears you will turn the reel handle 34.6 times to reel in a bait, with 4.6:1 gears you will have turn the reel handle 40.9 times, only 6.3 more turns of the handle. Pikemaster: When you put it in terms like this, it actually doesn't sound that bad at all. Thanks for this information. I'm still wondering if Abu Garcia is perhaps leaving the door open a bit for Shimano. Depending upon the specifics of this new Shimano 500 coming out (if/when that happens) there may be some individuals making the switch. |
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Location: Canada | Pikemaster is exactly right as far as why I own a 61 Winch and a 61 HS. That is why I own two but its my understanding that a lot of guys buy just the 5.4:1 regular Toro and it makes sense for them to buy that one when owning just one. Seems a little odd that this reel would be discontinued. |
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Location: Denmark | esoxone - 5/26/2011 9:52 AM
Bad News,Folks !!!
To me it is a marketing's choice and nothing else...
I suggest two solutions:
1) Buy them online in Europe ( Italy,Germany,Sweden,French,Holland,ecc. )
2) Buying 50-51/60-61 Toro HS and/or 50-51/60-61 Toro Winch and change their main gear with a 5.4:1 main gear (if you don't find the 5.4:1 gear in Usa/Canada ,try to find it online in Europe)
Hope to help you
pikeone
I just ordered one in the UK for 227 USD
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Location: Okoboji | all this post is making me want is the new curado 500 lol |
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| Well done,Killerbug !!!
At which shop ?
( you can send to me a PM if you wish)
esoxone |
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