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Message Subject: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch
Guest
Posted 4/4/2011 4:53 PM (#490688)
Subject: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch


This is meant for PIKEMASTER, but anyone that has an answer is to reply. What size gears are in the bass-size Revo Winch? Do you know what size are in the other bass-sized Revos (STX,SX,S)?
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/4/2011 5:09 PM (#490691 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
The Revo Bass reels, WINCH has a 5.4:1 brass gears, that has a 20.6" line pickup, STX has a 6.4:1 brass gear that has a 27.5" line pickup or a 7.1:1 brass gear that has a 31" line pick up, SX same as the STX, the S comes only in a 6.4:1 gears that have a line pickup of 27.5" per turn of the handle. All ABU gears are brass and are around 36-40mm tall. Hope that helps.
LonLB
Posted 4/4/2011 6:58 PM (#490716 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch




Posts: 158


Will standard Revo gears swap into the Toro Revo's??
reelman
Posted 4/4/2011 8:31 PM (#490736 - in reply to #490716)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch




Posts: 1270


LonLB - 4/4/2011 6:58 PM

Will standard Revo gears swap into the Toro Revo's??


NO!
esoxaddict
Posted 4/4/2011 10:07 PM (#490748 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Posts: 8821


Wat a second... Isn't the Winch a lower gear ratio? 4.5:1?? I thought the regular Revo Toro was 5.3:1??
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/4/2011 10:29 PM (#490751 - in reply to #490748)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
esoxaddict - 4/4/2011 10:07 PM

Wat a second... Isn't the Winch a lower gear ratio? 4.5:1?? I thought the regular Revo Toro was 5.3:1??


Read GUEST post he was asking about the REVO bass reels !!!!
U are taking about the ABU REVO TORO reels that come in a REVO WINCH with 4.6:1 / 22" line pickup, and a std REVO TORO with 5.4:1 / 26" of line pickup, and a 6.4:1 with 30.9" line pickup. Both the REVO and the REVO TORO gears are made of brass, and each have there they own gear sets.
esoxaddict
Posted 4/4/2011 10:50 PM (#490753 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Posts: 8821


Ohhh, bass sized reels. My mistake, I thought this was a muskie site...
Guest
Posted 4/5/2011 8:16 AM (#490771 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch


Thanks for the info, PIKEMASTER. I use bass-sized Revos for muskies. If you don't you're missing out. I was curious how much bigger the gears in the Winch was compared to the others.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/5/2011 8:39 AM (#490775 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Guest: Here is something U can do do any Revo Bass Reel, U can order a set of 4.7:1 brass gears from BASS PRO / PRO Q. reel and they will drop in any REVO or Pfluger Patriarch Wide spool reel and with the 4.7:1 gears U can pull in Big Blade Baits with ease, with a small bass reel.
The Revo brass gears are some of the tallest in any reels today, take a ABU 6500 the gears in that reel are only about 32mm tall, and the REVO gears are 36mm - 38mm tall.
Guest
Posted 4/5/2011 8:55 AM (#490777 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch


That's pretty interesting. How do you get these gears?
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/5/2011 9:12 AM (#490779 - in reply to #490777)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Guest - 4/5/2011 8:55 AM

That's pretty interesting. How do you get these gears?


Call Bas Pro Reel repair center, I don't have the phone #
just do a google to get it.
They are on back order right now, I have a few sets on B/O
Guest
Posted 4/5/2011 9:14 AM (#490780 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch


Do you know when they will be in and about how much they cost? The reel itself is on sale for $80 if that interests you.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/5/2011 9:28 AM (#490783 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
I think they are $18.00 for a set. I know a lot guys that buy the reel and use the gears and resell the the reel with the gears that they swap with.
My B/O gears is going on 30days being backorderd.
Guest
Posted 4/5/2011 9:40 AM (#490788 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch


That price isn't too bad. Does it take much knowledge to change them? I don't want to mess up and have to throw the reel away.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/5/2011 10:11 AM (#490798 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
U do have to take the right side of the reel off so I would send it to me or try it yourself, follow the reel schmatics, not to hard.
Guest
Posted 4/5/2011 11:10 AM (#490812 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch


I might give it a try. Have you personally used one? I might wait until you convert yours and write a review.
Guest
Posted 4/5/2011 12:32 PM (#490828 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch


How tall are 4.7:1 Pro Qualifier gears?
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/5/2011 2:30 PM (#490839 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Here are some pics of the 4.7:1 gears and a set of 5.3:1 from a ABU 6500. U can see from the pics that the 4.7:1 gears are so much bigger then the 6500 gears, look at the size of the pinion gears, now U know Y the ABU 6500 gears don't last.


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Killerbug
Posted 4/5/2011 2:41 PM (#490842 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Posts: 339


Location: Denmark
The pinion on the 6500 looks like steel?
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/5/2011 3:02 PM (#490850 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Yes it is S.STEEL I got them from UT REEL TECHNOLOGY about 6 years ago, down to my last 15 of them. I don't think you can find them anymore.
Guest
Posted 4/5/2011 4:02 PM (#490858 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch


Impressive. Thanks for the pictures. Are those actually from the Pro Qualifier? They're about the same size as the Toro Winch, right?
Guest
Posted 4/5/2011 4:06 PM (#490860 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch


Do you know of any charts or anything online that discusses internal part, or do you just know because you own everyone known to man?
bstein
Posted 4/5/2011 4:16 PM (#490864 - in reply to #490858)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch




Posts: 93


Location: WI
How does the bass pro Qualifier reel hold up for muskie fishing in your opinion? I'm looking to add a new reel to what I have now but being cut in hours it's hard to spend big $$ for a revo toro. If these work good and hold up it might be a good option for smaller cranks and jerks and mabybe some smaller bucktails.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/5/2011 6:07 PM (#490887 - in reply to #490864)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
The Pro Q reels would be fine for small bucktail and small jerks, just use your thumb on the spool when you rip / jerk baits. For $79.99 can't beat them. Get the 4.7:1 gear ratio and it will hold appox 85yds of 65lb braid or 65yds of 80lb braid.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/5/2011 6:22 PM (#490888 - in reply to #490860)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Guest - 4/5/2011 4:06 PM

Do you know of any charts or anything online that discusses internal part, or do you just know because you own everyone known to man?


At last count I had over 75 reels, and 60 rods, Most are for Pike and Muskies, Bass, Saltwater, 30 are old ABU reels from the 50's and 60's and 70's.
When a new reel comes out I will buy them and tear them down to see what they are made of, If I like it I will keep it, if it is a POS I will sell it on the web or a forum. I follow about 10 forums on line about reel repair a day, so I learn alot from them. Also last year I did over 200 reel repairs, cleaning and reoiling so I see alot of different reels.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/5/2011 6:24 PM (#490889 - in reply to #490858)
Subject: RE: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Guest - 4/5/2011 4:02 PM

Impressive. Thanks for the pictures. Are those actually from the Pro Qualifier? They're about the same size as the Toro Winch, right?

Yes on both ????
Killerbug
Posted 4/6/2011 2:30 AM (#490963 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Posts: 339


Location: Denmark
How mutch longer would the steel pinion last?
LonLB
Posted 4/6/2011 4:37 AM (#490965 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch




Posts: 158


Someone mentioned the Pro Qualifier reels from BPS.

The PQ reels interchange parts with the Revo lineup. In fact, I've not only swapped gears, but assembled them with ALL parts swapped over, just to show someone online they were the same.

I don't know about the new BPS Extreme reels, but I do know the 09'/10' Extreme gears are also swappable with the Revo reels.


From what I understand from you PIKEMASTER, the standard Revo/PQ gears won't fit into a Toro. Just thought I'd re-mention that since I'm lead to believe that some people were asking that specifically without actually asking.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/6/2011 5:53 AM (#490968 - in reply to #490963)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Killerbug - 4/6/2011 2:30 AM

How mutch longer would the steel pinion last?


With S.STEEL gears they never feel smooth, but will last for years. Brass pinions will wear out in a couple months of reeling in hard pulling baits. U can buy new brass pinion gears on ebay for $5.00, and takes 15mins to install, so it is a trade off, I like a reel that is butter smooth.
Killerbug
Posted 4/6/2011 1:17 PM (#491048 - in reply to #490688)
Subject: Re: PIKEMASTER - Revo Winch





Posts: 339


Location: Denmark
If both pinion and gears are steel, it should feel smoother. But Ambasseduer reels was never super smooth, at least not the classics.

I think they even used alu gears in some of the older models.

PS. I might need your help once more in near future, as the 400 is showing signs of rust already from the Pike fishing here in the Baltic sea.
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