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Zib |
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Posts: 1405 Location: Detroit River | Hey guys, I’m looking to get a left-handed high speed/low profile reel to use on my glide/jerkbait rod. I’ve narrowed it do to either the Revo Toro 61 HS & the Curado 301E. Which one would you guys recommend (or other)? Are there any issues/problems that anyone has had with these reels? Thanks | ||
MuskieSwede |
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Posts: 245 | Hi I have both reels, one on a light Jerkbait rod and one on a heavy jerkbait rod. For lures up to about 3oz i would buy the Curado, for lures 4oz+ i would buy the Toro. 3-40z the reels are very similar, go to a stora and look at both reels and se which one you feel most comfortable with. I like the Toro more than the Curado overall... | ||
brandondunbar |
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Posts: 133 Location: Wausau, WI | I have had very good luck with the Curado and Shimano in general. I have never used a Revo Toro and have had bad luck with Abu Garcia. | ||
WI Skis |
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Posts: 547 Location: Oshkosh | Toro Peter | ||
Cory Toker |
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Posts: 240 | I have two Curado's and one Revo Toro 60. Have not used the Toro much but seems like a good reel. I have the standard 5.4:1. The reel is not bad with the big blades when used with a power handle. Better than anything I had before. I ended up buying the Calcutta te lucanus for blades and will not use anything else. Amazing reels!!! I have two Curados and they are amazing for everything but big blades. Don't get me wrong, they will work with them and stand up, its just so tiring to reel them with the tall gears. With regular cleaning and lube, these reels are virtually indestructible! Three seasons on them and I fish hard. Will need more time with the Revo. Cm | ||
Lightning |
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Posts: 485 Location: On my favorite lake! | I have both a curado and toro. Toro's can take more weight? curado is better for smaller lures. If you throw bigger stuff or crankbaits get the toro. If you want something from shimano comparable to a toro get a calcutta 400. The curado is sportscar and the toro is a 1500 pickup truck. | ||
CowBells |
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I have a Curado 301E for gliders and WTD topwaters. Awesome reel. I'm sure the Toro would be ok, but I just trust Shimano products so much more than Abu. | |||
Cory Toker |
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Posts: 240 | Lightning - 2/4/2011 4:59 PM I have both a curado and toro. Toro's can take more weight? curado is better for smaller lures. If you throw bigger stuff or crankbaits get the toro. If you want something from shimano comparable to a toro get a calcutta 400. The curado is sportscar and the toro is a 1500 pickup truck. I think you are just fooled by the lightweight feel of a curado. (magnesium frame) I have pounded mine hard for three years using everything from jerk baits, double cow girls, magnum bull dogs, topwaters, crankbaits, and gliders. Still work as good as the day I bought them. Tall gears make it hard to use with some lures. The Toro so far, feels just as good but easer to use with crankbaits and blades. lower gear ratio with 5.4:1 and power handle. Will need more time to see if it stands up like the curado. Cory | ||
reelman |
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Posts: 1270 | The Curado is a good reel no doubt but the Toro offers a couple advantages IMO. The 60 size Toro offers more line capacity than the Curado which can be nice when using high poudage super lines. The Toro comes with both a double handle and a power handle and the gib advantage of the Toro is the synchronized line guide where the level wind goes back and forth during the cast, this increases casting distance, makes the drag smoother, and reduces backlashes. The Toro also has a clicker but it's not like either of the reels would really be a primary trolling or sucker reel anyways so that doesn't really matter much. The Toro also has the most drag preasure of any reel in it's class which is nice if you like to lock your drag down. | ||
Jsondag |
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Posts: 692 Location: Pelican Rapids, MN | They're in the process of making a larger Curado than the 300. Not sure when it will arrive, but I believe it will be a 500. Just FYI. | ||
lambeau |
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i've thrown everything in my box with Curados for the past few years (except double-10s). that includes jerkbaits, crankbaits, even ripping pounders. i've never had a single failure - they're practically bombproof. check the sideplate, make sure it says Shimano, then continue casting.
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mseybert |
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Posts: 443 Location: Indiana | I have never used a curado so i can't comment there, bit I have 2 toros and love them. You can't go wrong with them. | ||
Ben Olsen |
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Let me preface my opinion: I am a die hard shimano guy and have only used a toro one time. Late last fall I was teasing Mike Keyes and Steve Genson for showing up for a Nov. Vermilion trip with only toros. We were only throwing pounders or bigger. They used the same two reels the entire trip without a problem. I, on the other hand, wore out the worm gear/level wind on two 400tes and froze a trinidad solid! I ended up using one of Mike's toros for the last day. I do own a curado and like it for light, downsized presentations but, the level wind doesn't travel back and forth when cast. This has made it tough for me to use line heavier than 50#. The toros easily handle 80# and even 100#. I'm strongly considering adding some toros to my fleet especially for client use. Mike and Jerry: What pound line are you throwing on your curados? Any Idea if the level wind issue will be addressed on the bigger curado? | |||
lambeau |
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i use 80lb Cortland Bronzeback on my Curados, and i can make casts much further than i'd ever want to have a lure be out there. i've never understood the claims that it inhibits casting distance; while there may be some difference at the extreme ends, when you're actually fishing it isn't a long-distance contest... the one time i have experienced difficulty is when the temperatures were at/below freezing. in that instance the relatively small spool size of the Curado meant it would freeze up too easily to last very long. i just stick with the TEs late in the year now. a 500 size Curado would be very interesting. and while i've never come close to spooling, it might help in the cold weather. it would seem to be Shimano's response to the Toro's bigger spool size. competition is good for consumers!
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Cory Toker |
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Posts: 240 | I don't understand the claims either. I have used several different lines including 80# Stealth, 80# tough line plus, and 80 stern super braid. Reel never backlashes and i can cast a mile. People having problems are not setting there reels up right. Plus how much line do you need on a casting reel. 100 yards should be enough for all lures and situations. Cory | ||
PIKEMASTER |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | The ABU TORO reels comes in 2 sizes and 3 different gears, What not to like ??? The Toro has a Non-Disengaging Level Wind, which is better for braid over 65lb test, the Curado has a disengaging level wind, which is better for braid under 50lbs. The Toro has a 6 disc Carbon fiber drag system, the Curado has only ONE fiber washer on it's drag system. I sold my 2 Curado reels last year and got Toro reels. The new color green on the new Curado I can not stand. | ||
Cory Toker |
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Posts: 240 | Don't get me wrong . I like the toro so far and like the fact that you can buy it in different sizes and gear ratios. I just don't have as much time with the toro as the Curado. My major complaint to shimano, has been the need for different gear ratios. The drag on the toro does seem better but I never lock mine right down anyway. Lost a fish of a life time to straightened trebles 10 years ago because of a locked down drag. Never do that again. The drag on the curado seems sufficient and works well for me. What I might be having trouble with is the fact that I have has so much problems with other Abu products in the past, that it is going to take a bit more time before I feel fully comfortable with this product. Cory | ||
Cory Toker |
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Posts: 240 | Don't get me wrong . I like the toro so far and like the fact that you can buy it in different sizes and gear ratios. I just don't have as much time with the toro as the Curado. My major complaint to shimano, has been the need for different gear ratios. The drag on the toro does seem better but I never lock mine right down anyway. Lost a fish of a life time to straightened trebles 10 years ago because of a locked down drag. Never do that again. The drag on the curado seems sufficient and works well for me. What I might be having trouble with is the fact that I have has so much problems with other Abu products in the past, that it is going to take a bit more time before I feel fully comfortable with this product. P.S I still don't get the complaint about the non disengaging level wind. Never been an issue for me. Cory | ||
reelman |
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Posts: 1270 | Cory, With a non-disengaging level wind the line guide stays in one spot when you cast. If it happens to stop in the middle things are fine but when it stops say on the far right side then when you cast and the line is coming off the spool everytime the line is at the far left of the spool there is a large angle between the spool and the line guide, this causes more friction on the line and slows the line down which opens the door for the spool to spin faster than the line is coming off and can create a backlash. It doesn't always happen but the likelyhood is more with a line guide that disengages. This excess friction also reduces casting distance. On the flip side the synchronized level wind also uses energy to turn the line guide. All the above needs some further explaining. In a narrow spooled reel suck as a bass reel the spool is not wide enough to create a large angle from the line to the line guide so a disengaging level wind is fine, such as on the smaller Curado and Revo bass reels. But on the larger sized reels the spool is wider and the angle can increase causeing problems. | ||
Cory Toker |
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Posts: 240 | Yes sounds logical but just has never been a problem for me or others that I know who use the curado. Copry | ||
Mark |
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Where'd you hear about that? I saw on a different forum from last year that a Shimano worker said they've thought about larger Curados and decided against it. The question was specifically for a Curado 400, so maybe that's why he said there wouldn't be one. But in any case, do you know of any websites with info on the subject? | |||
Zib |
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Posts: 1405 Location: Detroit River | Thanks for all the great info guys. I'm 99.99% set on the Toro now. I just hope BPS has a left-hand in stock during their reel trade-in sale. The BPS website doesn't list the left handed Toro only the right handed. | ||
MuskieMark01 |
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Posts: 209 | I have a left handed one I'm willing to sell. Never even used it. I'm actually right handed, I just picked it up because it was on sale at a sporting goods store for 150. I'm selling for 225. | ||
CU301DSV |
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Posts: 906 Location: Canada | MuskieMark01 - 2/6/2011 11:56 PM I have a left handed one I'm willing to sell. Never even used it. I'm actually right handed, I just picked it up because it was on sale at a sporting goods store for 150. I'm selling for 225. Making it hard to sell with that kind of post. Probably shouldn't have mentioned what you paid for it when you're trying to sell it for more. | ||
MuskieMark01 |
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Posts: 209 | Good thing I don't make a living in sales then I guess. | ||
MotherRussia |
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Posts: 6 | Zib - 2/5/2011 6:49 PM Thanks for all the great info guys. I'm 99.99% set on the Toro now. I just hope BPS has a left-hand in stock during their reel trade-in sale. The BPS website doesn't list the left handed Toro only the right handed. BPS has not had any toros the last 5 times Ive been there. They have a spot in their display for it but never seem to stock it. With the left hand you may want to think twice. I bought a curado 301e thinking it would help me reduce fatige by having a retrieve on the other hand. Me being a righty, it took a good three outings before I could make the dendritic connections in my brain to make the reel burn. The thing was akward for a bit. Now my left arm/hand is much more coordinated and my stick handling has improved. It takes some practice to get used to | ||
crackpot |
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Posts: 214 Location: Central Iowa | Joe's sporting goods on the internet has the left handed toro 61's for $150 and free shipping right now. | ||
MartinTD |
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Posts: 1141 Location: NorthCentral WI | MuskieMark01 - 2/6/2011 10:56 PM I have a left handed one I'm willing to sell. Never even used it. I'm actually right handed, I just picked it up because it was on sale at a sporting goods store for 150. I'm selling for 225. I think I'd rather go with Joe's Sporting Goods. Nice gesture though. | ||
CASTING55 |
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Posts: 968 Location: N.FIB | I don`t think I would want to even try fishing with a left handed reel,my guess would be higher rod tip and lost fish,or rod ends up in the water,even worse.Also with all the problems people have said they have had with the toros,no way I would buy one when the curados cheaper. | ||
Zib |
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Posts: 1405 Location: Detroit River | crackpot - 2/7/2011 11:41 AM Joe's sporting goods on the internet has the left handed toro 61's for $150 and free shipping right now. The one Joes's has on sale is the 5.4:1. I'm looking to buy the 6.4:1. | ||
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